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NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

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PhoenixTank

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When speech is being restricted, you wouldn't expect a place where said restrictions are being questioned to last very long.
Or maybe I'm wrong.
Nah. I think this thread will continue. Sometimes posts get shifted over to VirginGAF depending on the content though.

Not really seeing cases of restriction i.e. site-imposed bans, not requests... that haven't come as a result of their posts descending into disrespectful behaviour.
I don't know to what degree the avenue for self-reflection & a sane appeal email is open for all of them.

I've spent some time in web dev, so I would be interested to know about the change in post counts if they're willing/have time to share. Could be a multitude of reasons - cleaning out orphaned posts where the thread has long since been nuked, after the recent upgrade, being one possible reason.
 

Falcs

Banned
I've spent some time in web dev, so I would be interested to know about the change in post counts if they're willing/have time to share. Could be a multitude of reasons - cleaning out orphaned posts where the thread has long since been nuked, after the recent upgrade, being one possible reason.
Yeah I'm curious to know what happened too.
How do you lose almost 10% of all posts under gaming all of a sudden?
 

nush

Member
Yeah I'm curious to know what happened too.
How do you lose almost 10% of all posts under gaming all of a sudden?
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Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
I wish, btw ya'll remember we had the writer from the book of Eli on the site. What ever happened to him was he banned?
Gary got a job writing Star Wars so he edited out all his past shit talking of the prequels and stopped posting. I hope he's doing well.
 

e&e

Banned
Okay, take care EK.
I think at some point, you need to cut your losses and stop giving people second chances unfortunately because you know they will just come back to call you out and account suicide. And in the end, they may not have seen it, but they still got special treatment because they were allowed to come back and newer people would’ve gotten fully banned.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I think at some point, you need to cut your losses and stop giving people second chances unfortunately because you know they will just come back to call you out and account suicide. And in the end, they may not have seen it, but they still got special treatment because they were allowed to come back and newer people would’ve gotten fully banned.
He posted on Gaming side regularly too, so I gave him a Politics-specific ban and a week to cool off and decide what he wanted to do upon his return. It's true that not many people are choosing to stay on GAF out of the people who have had their Politics access disabled -- personally that sounds like a perk, not a punishment -- but a few have.
 

nush

Member
I think at some point, you need to cut your losses and stop giving people second chances unfortunately because you know they will just come back to call you out and account suicide

That's on them. If people want to come back and go all Karen "I'M NEVER SHOPPING HERE AGAIN" it's like, *Shrug*.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
I’m not saying we should allow political conspiracy theories, they’re dangerous and shouldn’t be allowed
I know that's not what you're saying, sorry if I didn't make that more clear.

I’m saying that I understand where those guys were coming from and how irked they felt in what they saw as a hypocritical stance, in the Trump / Winter Soilder thread ( which obviously isn’t fact).
I understand where they're coming from and why they're irked too. This is why I raised the question - is their irkedness justified, and are their subsequent actions justified? I know fully well WHY they feel slighted. But does that entitle them to not comply with the rules? How many tantrums does EviLore EviLore have to put up or let slide in order to adequately convey that he sympathizes and respects those users' opinions? At some point it becomes more about them and their feelings rather than the health of the forum, and you have to draw the line somewhere.

That thread to me, reignited that feeling being targeted and suppressed and sadly it won’t be the end of it. I expect to see more of those threads along those lines in the future and possibly more bans thereafter.
You might have felt targeted and suppressed, but from my point of view, you really aren't. I'm pretty sure you'd agree with me that most of the left wing reee types who sperged out over the years weren't oppressed either and got banned because they did not comply with the rules. I don't see why that doesn't apply to the recent bans as well. Quit trying to find oppression where it doesn't exist or else you're going to work yourself into a mark. Just deal with it.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Well, I don't care much for participating in conspiracy threads, and I don;t even know what all these threads are with people getting banned. What is it? Trump saying liberals rigged the machines and it's still going and were already into February?

As for bans/lock down, 99% o things roll off my shoulders so I don't care if people/threads are shut down. I can take it. The only threads I don't want around are disgusting stuff or porn etc.... This isn't the right site for it. But by the looks of it, a lot of people can't handle political threads as it seems to edge closer and closer to personal bickering. So if the flames need to be doused with buckets of water so be it.
 

O-N-E

Member
Well, I don't care much for participating in conspiracy threads, and I don;t even know what all these threads are with people getting banned. What is it? Trump saying liberals rigged the machines and it's still going and were already into February?

That's not still going.

Trump being a Russian asset from way back in 2016 is still going. A few months of tension based on the climax of a strange as hell election cycle was too much to bear. We needed a policy change for that.

On the other hand....

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O-N-E

Member
But THAT didn't lead to an attempted coup on the capital though. See the issue? People being salty about "but people kept bringing Russia up!" were missing the damn point that Trump's spin caused the events on January 6th.

GAF isn't a staging platform for coup attempts. You'd be hard-pressed to find any significant amount of users who condone such ideas (whether they've already left or not). Same as it's not a staging platform for Antifa/BLM rallies and riots. There was a policy change with regards to conspiracy theory talk, yet right when it hits, an old worn-out laughable joke of a conspiracy is being trotted out as reasonable.
 

The Shift

Banned
GAF isn't a staging platform for coup attempts. You'd be hard-pressed to find any significant amount of users who condone such ideas (whether they've already left or not). Same as it's not a staging platform for Antifa/BLM rallies and riots. There was a policy change with regards to conspiracy theory talk, yet right when it hits, an old worn-out laughable joke of a conspiracy is being trotted out as reasonable.

Not to mention the Russiagate inquiry exposed glaring issues regarding the DNC, FBI, FISA court and others orchestrating what might be viewed as a concerted effort at a coup, and not the Larper version I might add. I would posit that 3+ year long exercise in FUD was one of the touchstone fuel sources that led to January 6, very much courtesy of the Democrats and MSM building narrative in concert. Trump isn't blameless but I'll repeat what I said in another thread a while back - between the MSM, DNC, Big Tech and the Trump Admin there was rarely an adult in the room - unfortunately that looks to be a running theme going forward.
 

Falcs

Banned
Hey, EviLore EviLore , just to be clear...

Is it a bannable offense to claim something is a conspiracy if the MSM does not agree that it is?

I only ask because the last two bans aren't very clear.
I'm assuming it's because they claimed the Russia and Capitol Hill incident stuff was a conspiracy.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Hey, EviLore EviLore , just to be clear...

Is it a bannable offense to claim something is a conspiracy if the MSM does not agree that it is?

I only ask because the last two bans aren't very clear.
I'm assuming it's because they claimed the Russia and Capitol Hill incident stuff was a conspiracy.
It is not bannable to disagree with the media, but to go to politics just to proxy whine about the conspiracy theory ban by flimsily constructing an argument that whatever topic you just entered is "also a conspiracy theory" is just trying to pick a fight. If you truly believe something is an actual unfounded conspiracy theory, you can use the report button (if that gets disabled you might get the message that your valuation of what constituted a conspiracy theory was off a lot).
 
Moderators in this forum don't like me at all.

Well, if i'm going to go to Oblivion let me tell you something before. It's not that moderator in this forum have a good reputation. The only one i respect is the Admin, Evilore. So everyone else is just bs as far i know.

I have, apparently, been advised to no not be an asshole anymore or i'm going to be ban forever. For doing fucking nothing, just because some mod doesn't like me.

He says: it's for the better. Like he knows me and shit lol. Go ahead. Ban me, right here, right now. It's for the best. I'm not going to be some sheep you can control. If you don't like me ban me straight away. I don't accept warning from moderators on this forum, only from Evilore.
 
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Falcs

Banned
Just let the dude run his forum how he wants
Of course. What's the big deal? I'm just asking a question. I don't want to get banned for breaking the new rules.

It is not bannable to disagree with the media, but to go to politics just to proxy whine about the conspiracy theory ban by flimsily constructing an argument that whatever topic you just entered is "also a conspiracy theory" is just trying to pick a fight.
Thanks for clarifying, Yoshi.

In that case, I disagree with almost everything CNN says.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
I have, apparently, been advised to no not be an asshole anymore or i'm going to be ban forever. For doing fucking nothing, just because some mod doesn't like me.
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Wow, so many master race players all concentrated in a place and at one time. The perfect time to throw an atomic bomb just right there.

All players slayed. Time to be happy without the master race.

If you kill all the Steam players is enough.

You kill the rabid dog and it ends the sickness.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Moderators in this forum don't like me at all.

Well, if i'm going to go to Oblivion let me tell you something before. It's not that moderator in this forum have a good reputation. The only one i respect is the Admin, Evilore. So everyone else is just bs as far i know.

I have, apparently, been advised to no not be an asshole anymore or i'm going to be ban forever. For doing fucking nothing, just because some mod doesn't like me.

He says: it's for the better. Like he knows me and shit lol. Go ahead. Ban me, right here, right now. It's for the best. I'm not going to be some sheep you can control. If you don't like me ban me straight away. I don't accept warning from moderators on this forum, only from Evilore.
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Peggies

Gold Member
Moderators in this forum don't like me at all.

Well, if i'm going to go to Oblivion let me tell you something before. It's not that moderator in this forum have a good reputation. The only one i respect is the Admin, Evilore. So everyone else is just bs as far i know.

I have, apparently, been advised to no not be an asshole anymore or i'm going to be ban forever. For doing fucking nothing, just because some mod doesn't like me.

He says: it's for the better. Like he knows me and shit lol. Go ahead. Ban me, right here, right now. It's for the best. I'm not going to be some sheep you can control. If you don't like me ban me straight away. I don't accept warning from moderators on this forum, only from Evilore.
Noooo, don't leave. Your posts are the best!

And I still think, it's just because you don't like pirates!
 

nush

Member
Moderators in this forum don't like me at all.

Well, if i'm going to go to Oblivion let me tell you something before. It's not that moderator in this forum have a good reputation. The only one i respect is the Admin, Evilore. So everyone else is just bs as far i know.

I have, apparently, been advised to no not be an asshole anymore or i'm going to be ban forever. For doing fucking nothing, just because some mod doesn't like me.

He says: it's for the better. Like he knows me and shit lol. Go ahead. Ban me, right here, right now. It's for the best. I'm not going to be some sheep you can control. If you don't like me ban me straight away. I don't accept warning from moderators on this forum, only from Evilore.
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Noooo, don't leave. Your posts are the best!

And I still think, it's just because you don't like pirates!
But when i'm getting to a hot spot in a conversation with anoher neogafer, i'm suddendly fucking blocked. Like seriously, i'm banned from the post.

First time i was like: ummm, i didn't know what i did. Perhaps i sweared too much? What did i say? It was not too bad?

Now i know it's someone that doesn't like me.

How am i suppouse to talk to people if one moderator says: oh, it's time for this guy to stop taliking shit.

I can't even reply to people that answer my messages, because some dude hates me!
 
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Bill O'Rights

Seldom posts. Always delivers.
Staff Member
I didn't do anything. Swear to god, i didn't do jackshit. I was just speaking with some folks and then: bang. I was dead.

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Calling people wankers, and then insinuating people who took issue with the change just wanted to treat games like porn is not having a genuine discussion, so you were reply banned. You were also warned that if you continued to make stupid reductive takes and be overly hostile then you would be reply banned in the future.




So that was the first instruction and guidance for you. You then follow up with these:




For which you've been reply banned. Again. Word to the wise, if you're going to put on this facade of IDGAF and call people assholes and wankers, we're not going to look on you sympathetically when you cry about being called one yourself. Take the warnings and grow up, or let us know if you want the perm please.


I don't accept warning from moderators on this forum, only from Evilore.


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Ain't going to save you here.
 

Peggies

Gold Member
But when i'm getting to a hot spot in a conversation with anoher neogafer, i'm suddendly fucking blocked. Like seriously, i'm banned from the post.

First time i was like: ummm, i didn't know what i did. Perhaps i sweared too much? What did i say? It was not too bad?

Now i know it's someone that doesn't like me.

How am i suppouse to talk to people if one moderator says: oh, it's time for this guy to stop taliking shit.

I can't even reply to people that answer my messages, because some dude hates me!

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It's all gonna be good m8. Keep low for a while. Mods are actually really nice here imo, so you'll be fine.

Edit: or maybe not LOL
 
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Calling people wankers, and then insinuating people who took issue with the change just wanted to treat games like porn is not having a genuine discussion, so you were reply banned. You were also warned that if you continued to make stupid reductive takes and be overly hostile then you would be reply banned in the future.




So that was the first instruction and guidance for you. You then follow up with these:




For which you've been reply banned. Again. Word to the wise, if you're going to put on this facade of IDGAF and call people assholes and wankers, we're not going to look on you sympathetically when you cry about being called one yourself. Take the warnings and grow up, or let us know if you want the perm please.





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Ain't going to save you here.
So it was you. Man, you take way too seriously my posts.

I mean, i've never insult anyone, or treat anyone in a bad way.

You seriously think that it's ok to ban from a threat just becouse i have a strong or stupid opinion about something?

How about discussing them with me if you consider that they're so odd.
 
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