Knightsoftheround
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Same. I need next-gen visuals in my blood right now! I don't care about 60fps.
UE5 live stream tomorrow (Wednesday, May 26th) guys!
I don't think I can ever go back to 30fps
Same. I need next-gen visuals in my blood right now! I don't care about 60fps.
UE5 live stream tomorrow (Wednesday, May 26th) guys!
I'm sorry but that's just wrong. Rift Apart looks so much more impressive on every single level even if you ignore the amazing Rift jumping aspect.
I love 60fps but my problem is, until now, games I played in Ps5, and that includes Demons souls, Valhalla, Spiderman, etc... they look like PS4 at 60fps rather than next gen. And only in 30fps quality mode is when those games start to look like next gen.I don't think I can ever go back to 30fps
[...] and it looks far better and more detailed and animated than PS4 Ratchet [...]
Comparing gameplay to gameplay with Ratchet 2016 [...]
- this runs nicely on i7+1070, you can control camera and time of day. Really nice "CG" like gfx .. expect much, much better from the PS5.
Ratchet 5 is a technical triviality that is not worth talking to a game veteran. Random shot is like a native game for the PS4 Pro. The gameplay is identical to the PS2 generation. The wow factor means having the same scene with fully dynamic fluid physics. And that's just the beginning.
I think is hard to compare cartoony games with more realistic ones. For me, at least, the jump in quality seems similar to Killzone 2/3 to ShadowFall.That's the thing tho, PS4 Ratchet, as great as it looked back then, was never something that's setting any bar. Now compare newest Ratchet with the likes of TO1886, Ryse, GoW4, TLoU2 etc. and the jump isn't as big anymore.
Same here. It feels like GTA 3 was the last time my mind was truly blown.
From this:
To this :
I would argue that this (running on a PS5) looks pretty damned close myself
Funny, many of the thousands of 30-40 year old reviewers, youtubers and gamers that think this game looks incredible would disagree lol
hell I would wager I've been gaming way longer than you, and the idea of instantly loading environments or mere second traversing worlds is pretty damn exciting. The real amazing thing with ratchet RA is the density and life in the worlds. Oh and to address your other concern Ratchet has added new mechanics and refined the overall experience in every main game.
Sorry, but "fluid physics" or not, this shit is exciting
Also many of you are comparing a revolutionary jump like 2D to 3D, or 3D to HD lol of course that will be more of a leap, but again this gen hasn't even started yet, Ratchet is a 6 month game, as in 6 moths in to a gen that will likely be 5-6 years long. BE EXCITED
We can't deny Rift Apart looks way better. But the thing is Ratchet and Clank PS4 still looks decent which makes the leap not seem as significant. Now go back and compare inFamous 2 to inFamous Second Son and the leap is way more significant. No one is denying graphics haven't improved it's just it's now a big wow factor anymore as PS4 games already look great. In fact if we get games like Red Dead 2 and Last of Us 2 with 60fps that's enough to satisfy me.
I miss the early days of PS4 when they showcased Killzone Shadowfall, DriveClub, The Order 1886, Infamous Second Son, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, The Last of Us Part 2... etc.
Every time they showed something for the PS4, I was floored at how good it all looked.
Now-a-days though it's like... HEY IT LOOKS THE SAME AS A PS4 GAME BUT IT HAS 60FPS!!!! WOW 60FPS! SO NEXT GEN!
I'm so sick of it.
The last time I was blown away by something for the PS5, was when they showed off UE5. That's pretty much it. Everything else just looks like last gen stuff with some extra detail and 4K resolution.
I must confess though, I've stayed away from any videos or screenshots of Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart because I wanna go in with fresh eyes. Hopefully this is the game that really makes me think "Man, now this is what next gen can really do"
What are your thoughts? Is 60fps enough to call it "next gen" or do you really wanna see that graphical leap we've come to expect each new generation even if it has to be 30fps.
If a game looks as good as UE5 demo, I'll gladly play it at 30fps.
You are not going to be blown away for few more years, this generation is underpowered
I agree. I think the things that impressed me most about Second Son at the time were how many particles they could put on the screen at once without any hit to performance and obviously the PBR materials. Also, the facial animations were so lifelike that it was definitely a generation ahead of PS3.Same thing was said about the last generation, many times. I was already impressed with Sony games in first-year, inFamous Second Son was unbeliavable in 2014 for a open-world game in comparison what we have on PS3. I think we have far better machines with PS5/Xbox SX than PS4/Xbox One in the same time.
PS6 will be sold on 240fps alone!You need to try 120fps.
it will be 32k 2400 fpsPS6 will be sold on 240fps alone!
Given what Intel did with gta5 I'm wondering how long it will be before someone decides to skip RT completely and run a game that has a basic set of actual 3d graphics overlaid with an AI generated photorealistic image for each frame!it will be 32k 2400 fps
upscaled from 4k and interpolated from 30 fps with revolutionary AI technologies (jokes on you, this will probs happen at some point)
The last generation was more powerful compared to the previous.Same thing was said about the last generation, many times. I was already impressed with Sony games in first-year, inFamous Second Son was unbeliavable in 2014 for a open-world game in comparison what we have on PS3. I think we have far better machines with PS5/Xbox SX than PS4/Xbox One in the same time.
need no... desired yes. After you p[lay spiderman in 60 fps is is hard to go back to 30I partially blame the "60fps" revolution we are currently experiencing on consoles. God of War, Horizon, RDR2, and TLOU2 were the best games visually from last gen. None of them NEEDED 60 fps to be great games.
i honestly used to think the cutscenes in RE2 was the best graphics could getIt’s probably a combination of diminishing returns and lack of the child wonderment I once had, but the last time I was truly blown away by a generational leap was going from the GameCube to 360.
One of my favorite games on the GC was RE4, and that game is probably the best looking one on the system. I was so excited for RE5 to come out, and would use the school computers during study hall to see if any new news or screenshots came out constantly. I would just look at the screenshots and get so obsessed with how detailed everything was and how nice the lighting looked. For comparison:
This particular RE5 screenshot just fascinated me. The detail and lighting was just leagues above the already good looking RE4.
The 360/PS3 was a big leap because most AAA games had in game character models that looked better than the Prerendered cutscenes of the previous gen. That alone was impressive. Not to mention some early games like AssCreed 1 and Dead Rising showed off what could be done with stuff like crowd density. Hell even some Wii games like Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 were nice upgrades from GC graphics.
Transitioning to PS4/X1 just felt meh in comparison. Games looked a little nicer but were still mostly 720p-1080p and 30fps. MEH.
Lets wait until we get more current gen only games before we start judging it. Which might take a while as lot are stuck with last gen consoles due to supply issues with current gen consoles.
I think you had too much coffee for one day.I miss being blown in general
You are not going to be blown away for few more years, this generation is underpowered
I'm not really trying to defend consoles but this generation is quite powerful in terms of how it performs against a PC. A midrange PC dickstomped a PS4/XB1 when they were released in 2013. Now a PS5/XSX is already a midrange PC.
Look at some of the games that came out on PS4, TLOU2, God of War, Ghosts of Tsushima, fuckin bonkers level of graphics @ 30fps on an absolute garbage system that was outdated way before it even released. The PS5 is doing 60fps in these games and not breaking a sweat. When we see a true 'next-gen' game come out on these systems from the very talented developers of the best looking games of last generation, we'll see how incredible these systems will be. This generation hasn't even started.
absolutely not, just check how PS4 games perform on a 2013 mid range PC.
TLOU2 and others Sony games have insane graphics that are barely seen on PC and they definitely don’t run well on a 2013 mid range PC.
PS5 and XSX are underpowered and that’s a fact, if your PC is underpowered because the last GPU sucks or are more expensive than before doesn’t mean they aren’t.
if you are surprised by a next gen console running old games at 60fps I really don’t know what to say other than you don’t know what you are talking about.
I didn't say I was surprised, I said the new consoles can handle 60fps no problem. They don't break a sweat. Maybe that translates differently to whatever language is your first.
I didn't say they were underpowered, I said they are...
I don't even know. Everything you wrote is actually retarded and not even based on what I said, it's like you misunderstood every single word in my post.
Consoles have been able to handle 60fps games for decades, what are you talking about?
C'mon the basics man, if you follow games at least try to understand how things work, especially if you want to comment about them.
Good lord. I never said anything about consoles not being able to handle 60fps. NES games are 60hz in the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
I hate to be rude, but you need to study the English language a bit more.
Every game in existence could be 60fps, but there would be sacrifices to get there. Nothing has unlimited power, so whenever you see a game running at 60fps, there were cutbacks to get there. I'd rather have less cut backs and 30fps.Consoles have been able to handle 60fps games for decades, what are you talking about?
C'mon the basics man, if you follow games at least try to understand how things work, especially if you want to comment about them.
Man you even mentioning a next gen console being able to run old gen games as 60fps like it's a thing is embarassing.
You are gasping at straws and even a little bit racist by constantly reminding me that english is not my native language (I would wrote poorly in my native language as well, I am definitely not going to double check what I write to answer your nonsense, not worth my time)
It's because you misunderstand me. All I said was the new consoles can do 60fps easily. I didn't act like it was some sort of achievement that they were doing this. You took things I said, and misinterpreted them. Anyways, I'm done with you.
My thoughts exactly. The UE5 stuff is the only thing that is innovative to me this generation so far. I don't know what other studios are doing with their engines, but I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. Simply taking and old engine from the PS4-era and adding in real time reflections is not really what I call next gen.If we get anything like the UE5 demo in real games, then that will be mind blowing. It looks like concept art in game.