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God of War Sequel and Gran Turismo 7 are Cross Generation Titles
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kuncol02
Banned
Knowing Polyphony GT7 will be crossgen, but for PS5 and PS6 (and still play like PS3 game).
assurdum
Banned
How I should prove it to you? Whatever I would say wouldn't be enough for you, I though I already explained to you why. We can't believe to the developers, they clearly stated that in their tech papers.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They were honest with us. They just didn't spell out their complete strategy in the beginning. But I'm sure if you didn't buy your PS5, someone else would have in 2.4 seconds. Go ahead and sell yours now and make a $100 profit if you being honest with us.
Anchovie123
Member
I dont really care about Horizon & GT7 or even Spiderman. It just hurts for GOW because the original as so clearly designed around that PS4 HDD. The whole game was designed to have no camera cuts so heavy data streaming had to be utilized and there was clear limitations/design choices all throughout the game because of this.
This sucks.
Also the narrative about PS4 sales, lack of PS5s ect is such bullshit. The PS5 is the FASTEST SELLING CONSOLE OF ALL TIME FFS and its already shown that cross gen titles sell better on PS5 then they do on PS4. By the time Nov 2022 rolls around PS5 will probably be at 30m+ sold more then enough to justify GOW being PS5 exclusive.
This sucks.
Also the narrative about PS4 sales, lack of PS5s ect is such bullshit. The PS5 is the FASTEST SELLING CONSOLE OF ALL TIME FFS and its already shown that cross gen titles sell better on PS5 then they do on PS4. By the time Nov 2022 rolls around PS5 will probably be at 30m+ sold more then enough to justify GOW being PS5 exclusive.
Derift
Member
…lol please lets not do this i can post many pictures of Phil spencer's lies... lets not act like one company is more moral than the other...
assurdum
Banned
I don't know, would be Crysis possible on PS2? Yes but with what compromises? Just to give to you the idea.
FunkMiller
Member
Jesus, dude. It’s okay to be critical of a large corporation for not being clear to consumers about their products.
And if you really think they didn’t deliberately keep quiet about major games being cross generation so as not to hurt sales of the new console, then I have a nice bridge to sell you.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
On the topic of being up front about cross generational games, are you saying that MS was dishonest about their cross generation policy? Did they make the same statements as Sony? I'd like to be enlightened.
Mr Moose
Member
To what? sub 720p/sub 30fps? No thank you. PS4 couldn't handle those particles well.
skit_data
Member
I think it’s more likely that the majority of crossgen games have been under development over a long time period and most of the basis was constructed before the next gen hardware was finalized.
It’s possible that Returnal started out as a PS4 title that shifted to being a PS5 exclusive, making it possible for the developers to widen their ambitions. But, as I originally stated as an answer to your question I have a hard time seeing Returnal running on a base PS4 (yes, a PS4 Pro is not a baseline) in its current form. Pretty much all of Housemarques games have been 60fps titles, which could be argued as an argument. I really don’t see this game reach a steady 60fps even at sub 1080p tbh.
Resident Evil 8 did exactly the same and somehow no outrage is to be found on the internet.
I wonder why...
I don't really because I actually know.
THEAP99
Banned
Hellblade 2, stalker 2, flight sim. More comfirmed next gen only games going to series x than ps5 at this point
systemr123
Member
If you’re doing a lot of good things, the haters will come. The better you do you’d job, the more haters will appear.
Jim Ryan is trending again boys. Ofcouse of all the wrong reasons. This guy can't catch a break.
odhiex
Member
If you have a PS5, play it on PS5...it will looks and plays better on there.
If you only have a PS4, you could still play it on there too, even it isn't as good as the PS5 version.
You guys are too much invested in "marketing buzz". it is always about money and how to retain your audience to generate more money. "We believe in generation" is almost like a meme now...lol
I've said this before, 2023 would be the year where most high profile games from either third parties or first parties move from cross-gen. The global pandemic (game development time and working conditions) and hardware constraints affected these decisions (a lot).
If you only have a PS4, you could still play it on there too, even it isn't as good as the PS5 version.
You guys are too much invested in "marketing buzz". it is always about money and how to retain your audience to generate more money. "We believe in generation" is almost like a meme now...lol
I've said this before, 2023 would be the year where most high profile games from either third parties or first parties move from cross-gen. The global pandemic (game development time and working conditions) and hardware constraints affected these decisions (a lot).
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You clearly didn't understand the backlash. Take the Xbox glasses off and understand the true issue people had. MS said they WEREN'T going to have ANY next-gen only games for a year or 2 after XSX released. That was the main issue.
Mr Moose
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FunkMiller
Member
Not first party.
hyperbertha
Member
Fine? Sure. Next gen? Nope. Why did Sony even release a ps5? Why not stay with ps4 for another 3 years? And no they don't 'need' ccross platform games. They have never really done cross platform first party games in any real capacity.
Ass of Can Whooping
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assurdum
Banned
Could swear Returnal, Ratchet and Kena runs just on ps5. And they are the more recent releases. I thought there are many other announced and not in coming, but I don't remind the whole list.
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squarealex
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Mr Moose
Member
Only if you can't count.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Well ok.
FunkMiller
Member
So, the bottleneck created by the PS4 HDD and the weak GPU that games have to run on won’t be issues at all?
...if Xbox Series X games will be hamstrung by having to run on last gen hardware, then exactly the same is true for Ps5.
Same shit, different companies.
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sncvsrtoip
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its changing subject but still thousands of people playing gt sport on ps4 and nobody pc2 and its not a coincidence
Mr Moose
Member
You forgot the shitty CPU.
dcmk7
Banned
Your profile pic seems to be evolving.Can't have cross gen games if there are no games
Oh ok...like anyone really believes that after this announcement...
spartan30gr
Member
O boy another cross gen shit for next gen consoles
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
NO! Throw your PS5 is the garbage! There will be no PS5 only games until 2025 going by this thread.
I know, that's practically what this whole useless argument is about.
Basically, Xbox and Nintendo fanboys are shitting on Sony like they always do for obvious reasons, and most of the PlayStation fanboys care more about list war and 'owning the Xbots on the internet' rather than actually being excited for games like the excellent looking cross-gen Horizon Forbidden West.
If you cared about marketing and companies not being upfront about their strategies, then you would also care about the same misleading tactics used by Capcom for RE8, but nope, only first party matters for some mystical reason.
FunkMiller
Member
Yes I did.
Shitty last gen technology holding back this generation’s games on all platforms for the foreseeable future. That’s where we are.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
GoW was revealed the same day Jim Ryan went out and said Miles and Horizon were PS4 games. GT7 was revealed six months before that. I dont think thats very honest.
It's like going on a first date and informing your date that you had covid and took the covid vaccine. Then 6 months later you tell them you have herpes and HIV as well. That's not very honest.
Mr Moose
Member
Sadly true, if a game is limited by last gen (that shitty CPU and HDD in particular) then it's being held back.
It's all about the money though, that's all they seem to care about, that's why they are porting shit to PC.
THEAP99
Banned
Tell me, what's the next next gen only game coming from Sony after next week?
FunkMiller
Member
Are you high? Of course it makes a difference whether it’s first party or not.
First party games are meant to be bespoke for the new console. They’re meant to be showcases designed to take advantage of the latest tech. They’re meant to sell the console to people.
What the fuck is the point in buying a new console, if even the people who made it aren’t trying to use its full potential?
Also, I never thought RE8 would be next gen only. I don’t think anybody really did, did they?
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It seems so! Good point! Right around the time I would be picking up the PS5 for way cheaper!
Mr Moose
Member
None of those games you listed are out "at this point", Sony has next-gen only games right now not on PS4, Series X has The Medium and it's not first party.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Endless Fluff
Banned
Kena is a cross gen game.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is exactly what I was warning about last year and everyone was leaving LOL reactions to my post for being chicken little. Multiplat development indicates a shift in strategy that will eventually hurt games. We have already seen this with MLB The Show getting zero next gen upgrades despite launching six months after release, despite being a first party title because they had to shift resources to make 4 xbox versions. GG devs spent six months patching up the PC version. Who is to say that it didnt cause a delay?
Those two things would not have happened if Sony didnt chase money over quality. I remember Shawn Layden saying that Bloodborne didnt do amazing sales but that was never the point. The point was to give PS4 owners an experience you couldnt have on the PS3. To reward their $400 purchase with quality exclusives instead of taking them for granted and chasing PS4, Xbox and PC users.
It's a complete shift in strategy that has already turned them into multiplatform publishers like EA, Ubisoft and Activision. They are literally opening up mobile studios and looking into creating F2P GaaS games according to the leaked sony investor presentation.
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