Love the positivity. I can’t think of a better time to be a gamer.Maybe I'm just getting older or it is diminishing returns. I am playing Horizon for the first time thanks to the 60fps and for a 2017 game I am still blown away. Honestly I don't even need better graphics, work on other things like enemy variety, better level design, more variety in environments etc, for me personally 2017 graphics in 60fps is enough. As long as we get games looking like Horizon and Last of Us 2 running in 60fps I am satisfied. Of course things like level designed restricted from the HDD should also be resolved so we have less going through right caves in games. So to conclude give me Horizon, Red Dead 2 level of graphics in 60fps without level design choices based around HDD and the gen would be enough for me.
Before anyone mentions this I haven't felt like this for a generation ever I have been gaming since the SNES. When PS1 came out I always felt we need 3D graphics. Going from PS1 to PS2 I always felt near the end of generation games looked to boxy, and alot of games are not true 3d (prerendered backgrounds). Then with end of PS2 I felt games were blurry and resolution was low, and finally PS3 games were jaggy and draw distance was not that great. With PS4 the main complaint I had was 30fps games but the look of the games still continue to blow me away, so just upgrading resolution was enough.
Now imagine Tomb Raider with the level of detail from the UE5 engine demo.I still get blown away by PS4 games. Recently I was playing Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition which has been out for quite a while now, and some of the scenery was amazing.
I have no doubt I'll love what the other consoles offer when I can get one.
Even Ratchet and Clank?Cross gen engines...
Ratchet and Clank is an is a early generation game...and its immpressive...?Even Ratchet and Clank?
Really? Kena looks the same on last gen.Play Demon's Souls remake and Kena.
I guess that makes sense, prefered lego cars to more realistic car models cause i had more fun and options with that.My kid is just about 8... and doesn't seem to care what games look like. I find it so strange.
Minecraft and Roblox are ruining a whole generation of graphic whores.
No, not even close. There's so much more to be done. Just wait, in a couple of years you'll think RDR2 and TLOU2 look rather plain and bare bones.We've hit diminishing returns for some time now.
It has actually...cross gen engines are holding the new hardware back.What makes a difference between generations has always been the amount of polygons per frame, this number has not increased this time around, so no jump, no leap, no actual generation
Whatever the reason, so far no difference, if this will be visible in 2022 or 2023, again there was no point of ps"5" whatsoever now, better to postpone it. It seems like the market was asking for new hardware but the industry was not ready/not willing for this. They gave us the alleged new consoles just because people were asking for that, but they didn't want to,nobody in the industry was ready for it, before gaming studios were updating their engines starting to develop games years in advance ready for debut, now nothing, nada, kaput. The only engine ready for giving something interesting is the Unreal engine5 and it debuted only this year while it should in 2018 at latestIt has actually...cross gen engines are holding the new hardware back.
I miss the early days of PS4 when they showcased Killzone Shadowfall, DriveClub, The Order 1886, Infamous Second Son, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, The Last of Us Part 2... etc.
Every time they showed something for the PS4, I was floored at how good it all looked.
Now-a-days though it's like... HEY IT LOOKS THE SAME AS A PS4 GAME BUT IT HAS 60FPS!!!! WOW 60FPS! SO NEXT GEN!
I'm so sick of it.
The last time I was blown away by something for the PS5, was when they showed off UE5. That's pretty much it. Everything else just looks like last gen stuff with some extra detail and 4K resolution.
I must confess though, I've stayed away from any videos or screenshots of Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart because I wanna go in with fresh eyes. Hopefully this is the game that really makes me think "Man, now this is what next gen can really do"
What are your thoughts? Is 60fps enough to call it "next gen" or do you really wanna see that graphical leap we've come to expect each new generation even if it has to be 30fps.
If a game looks as good as UE5 demo, I'll gladly play it at 30fps.
I think hdr is making these old gen PS4 games still hold up even on ps5 but I do want new standard for graphicsI still get blown away by PS4 games. Recently I was playing Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition which has been out for quite a while now, and some of the scenery was amazing.
I have no doubt I'll love what the other consoles offer when I can get one.
You kinda nailed it with that comment. The industry wasn't ready for it or wanting a new generation. Lack of new engines, cross gen, covid. AAA devs are making record profits and the more money they make the more greedy and "lazy" they become.Whatever the reason, so far no difference, if this will be visible in 2022 or 2023, again there was no point of ps"5" whatsoever now, better to postpone it. It seems like the market was asking for new hardware but the industry was not ready/not willing for this. They gave us the alleged new consoles just because people were asking for that, but they didn't want to,nobody in the industry was ready for it, before gaming studios were updating their engines starting to develop games years in advance ready for debut, now nothing, nada, kaput. The only engine ready for giving something interesting is the Unreal engine5 and it debuted only this year while it should in 2018 at latest
And?Wait until E3(or when they show native current gen games) i guess i should feel lucky im still blown away by PS4 graphics
well, i was wrong about the time lets wait until next E3 shall we, or whatever major event game companies show off their (not early/CG video) full next gen games with demos. i don't care WHEN it happens, as long as they are PS5/Series onlyAnd?
I miss the early days of PS4 when they showcased Killzone Shadowfall, DriveClub, The Order 1886, Infamous Second Son, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, The Last of Us Part 2... etc.
Every time they showed something for the PS4, I was floored at how good it all looked.
Now-a-days though it's like... HEY IT LOOKS THE SAME AS A PS4 GAME BUT IT HAS 60FPS!!!! WOW 60FPS! SO NEXT GEN!
I'm so sick of it.
The last time I was blown away by something for the PS5, was when they showed off UE5. That's pretty much it. Everything else just looks like last gen stuff with some extra detail and 4K resolution.
I must confess though, I've stayed away from any videos or screenshots of Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart because I wanna go in with fresh eyes. Hopefully this is the game that really makes me think "Man, now this is what next gen can really do"
What are your thoughts? Is 60fps enough to call it "next gen" or do you really wanna see that graphical leap we've come to expect each new generation even if it has to be 30fps.
If a game looks as good as UE5 demo, I'll gladly play it at 30fps.
To be honest. I agree. Like AC Unity looked insanely good because they used static lighting. Then, when they switched to dynamic lighting it was bland. A lot of early games had static lighting (like second son and the order)I agree with you OP. Though I think after early PS4 games the games after just stopped impressing me graphically. I just don’t think I’ll be wowed again even if the graphics become a generational leap. I’m just over it now I guess.
And the solution to this continues to be raytracing, Quality higher than that of static lighting in totally dynamic scenes.To be honest. I agree. Like AC Unity looked insanely good because they used static lighting. Then, when they switched to dynamic lighting it was bland. A lot of early games had static lighting (like second son and the order)
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