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90% of Call of Duty Vanguard Xbox sales, in United Kingdom, were digital
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DaGwaphics
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I'm surprised physical games still sell as many copies as they do (anywhere), tbh. I remember being all "I'm staying 100% physical" when the X1 was getting announced. Reality, I have like 10 disks, and half of those I double dipped during sales so I don't need the disks. The only negative is I don't have a boatload of games to sell will my system at the end of the generation.
Gameplaylover
Member
Every freaking time? No thanks, there are just too many. Made a suggestion here and hope the admin or some mod will read and think about it.
oldergamer
Member
I fully expected this.
oldergamer
Member
There's forth point. Activision makes more money from digital sales then they do physical.You're triggered not me
Nobody was saying the total amount of sales is even with this news, nobody as the Ps base is far larger from last gen and this gen in console sales.
Idiots were saying that the figures somehow proved that Xbox gamers didn't buy anything anymore due to Gamepass, despite Microsoft saying the opposite.
I stated over and over again that Xbox owners would just buy digital for a couple of reasons,
Firstly Gamepass conditions people to accept digital.
Secondly they run offers on the dash rewarding you to buy digitally.
Third with Third party key sellers allowed to sell Xbox games its cheaper.
Looks like I was vindicated yet again.
It's just console numbers so 43% for xbox
Topher
Gold Member
I mean.......you are posting in all the sales threads, dude.
Yeah those guessing games are ridiculous. In October someone estimated 8m, but only MS knows:
Xbox Series X|S Sales Reach 8 Million, Game Pass Climbs Above 20 Million - Analyst
New numbers for console sales and Game Pass have emerged thanks to an analyst.www.gamespot.com
Vognerful
Member
Oman,Who gives a fuck about UK sales? In Oman, PS5 is enjoying pure dominance, that what matters.
It is Salalah time of the year
Gameplaylover
Member
The second one is not a UK games sales thread. It's someone guessing console numbers which is just ridiculous.
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Topher
Gold Member
Of course it is. It is a console sales thread.
Thread title:
Estimated 2021 console sales numbers
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Bo_Hazem
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Gameplaylover
Member
Like i said not even real numbers, just someone guessing shit. That's even worse. If my posts annoy you, take you own advice and click the ignore button.
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Duchess
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Personally, I'm sticking with physical copies for as long as possible.
That way I get to loan / borrow games from my brother, and if I happen to buy a crap game, I can sell it and cut my losses.
I'm not 100% against digital games, though; I've got a PS Store wishlist with games like Death's Door, The Ruined King, F.I.S.T, and many others all listed. Things like Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, God of War, and Horizon will be physical.
That way I get to loan / borrow games from my brother, and if I happen to buy a crap game, I can sell it and cut my losses.
I'm not 100% against digital games, though; I've got a PS Store wishlist with games like Death's Door, The Ruined King, F.I.S.T, and many others all listed. Things like Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, God of War, and Horizon will be physical.
Topher
Gold Member
Not annoying me at all. Just a bit absurd to make suggestions to the staff about threads you say you don't like but can't stay out of.
I'll let you get back to talking about sales now.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
When they commit to putting in effort into backwards compatibility, suddenly digital becomes a lot more attractive.
Gameplaylover
Member
Today i'm in the mood to complain. Those spammy sales threads (and others) annoy the shit out of me and today we got like 6 or so on page 1 from Occulus Quest over console guessing games to Uk and other shit. Makes the forum so confusing. If we had a subforum for it i wouldn't even click it once.
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ethomaz
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Week 1 was 80% (checked).
So this one for Week 2?
So this one for Week 2?
Chris shared the digital data for UK since they started to track it some years ago.
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I would like a single thread as well, still think this estimate console thread is interesting in the context of game sales numbers.
Hitchyhero
Banned
I knew the xbox would seriously favour digital this gen. When I had my Ps4 I was mostly physical copies but with gamepass it makes sense to keep everything digital on Xbox.
Stuart360
Member
I know you're just trying to start shit (as usual) but the split is just over 50% for XSS compared to XSX, at a tme where XSX is impossible to find in most countries, and XSS is often freely available.
Once XSX becomes available freely around the world, XSX will overtake XSS and will probably finish about 65% to 35% by the end of the gen imo.
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prinz_valium
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Forza Horzion 5 Digital share is even higher than CoD
I don’t believe anyone has tried to say games sold more on Xbox or that PlayStation doesn’t have the higher share. The conversation really is that boxed sales splits that folks obsess over are misleading, and that the higher digital sales on Xbox makes the splits not as crazy as the retail sales would imply.
That’s pretty much it.
Essentially, it’s meaningless to obsess over the retail splits in the UK.
prinz_valium
Member
No. this is week 1 data. Digital data for week 2 isn't available yet.
This is GSD data.
That 80% figure was some math mixing GSD and GFK data. That's why it's different
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Link or its coming out later this week?
I need to note these sources in my tables.
DaGwaphics
Member
Totally, everybody just buying what they can get their hands on right now. Like you though, I do still expect the XSS to sell a healthy amount throughout the generation. It will be interesting to see what skus move the most once everything is readily available, speaking of the 4 primary current-gen skus.
Bernd Lauert
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chromhound
Member
they should do a marketplace to sell your digital games to other people
GHG
Member
So it still sells more on Playstation overall and you say it easily makes up the deficit? That's closing the deficit, not making it up, there is a difference.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It sells more on Playstation because there are more Playstation consoles out there. When you take that into account, sales are similar between both consoles.
So far, the narrative was that Playstation is a software selling beast and that Gamepass is killing software sales. This turned out to be utterly false now.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
The first one can't possibly work imo, the 70:30 platform split in physical came from the article on gamesindustry (I know that he's the same person) and usually it's very precise
2 of 100 of possible scenarios but assuming the total platform splits stay the same; we get the following tables
- top table is if the ratio of physical sales between platforms changes
- bottom table is if the ratio of physical to digital changes
it's probably a combo of both but ehh.
Thought the numbers were wrong but they are right.
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different time period i think and different source? i think that 70:30 was purely first week. but need to figure out a better way to do this 'calculator'.
Lognor
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I wonder why the PS owners are lagging behind so much on digital adoption. Sony even has an all digital console so I don't get it. PS owners prefer physical by and large. Maybe Game Pass has a lot to do with the digital adoption rates on the Xbox? Or because Xbox embraced online services so much earlier than Playstation?
GHG
Member
So now the fact that there are more sales on PS platforms doesn't count because... reasons?
Ok, got it.
DaGwaphics
Member
MS embracing backwards compatibility as early as they did probably helped too. Makes digital feel "safer" on the platform. Even though I had both a PS4 and X1, I almost always bought third-party on Xbox because I figured there was a good chance those games carried over to whatever was next.
Fredrik
Member
I don’t know, if I still had my physical Ridge Racer 6 disc I could play it on Xbox Series X, but I don’t so now I have to hope that MS put the digital version up on the store in my country.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
True. But also you can still play digital games you've purchased before they get delisted, and you can redownload them. But sometimes they remove your ability to purchase them still.
DaGwaphics
Member
They count. Just not in the way that many like to paint the picture. The narrative has been that no one buys software on Xbox because of the UK physical sales. With more complete numbers we see that the consoles have very similar attach rates, obviously Sony sells more because the user base is bigger.
Basically if 1 out of every 20 PS owners is buying a game, roughly that same number is picking it up on Xbox.
GHG
Member
Lagging?
The digital splits for the last 2 quarters are as follows:
Q4 FY2020 - 79%
Q1 FY2021 - 70%
The industry average is 72% for consoles as of december last year:
91% of 2020's Game Industry Revenue Was Digital
The video game industry is quickly moving away from physical copies and brick-and-mortar stores, as game sales are now almost completely online.
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Lognor
Banned
Yes, that's a great point I had not considered! While their BC program felt almost too good to be true since they were not making any money off it directly, it probably did have the effect of getting people to buy more digitally knowing their games should be safe going forward. Smart move I suppose considering their higher margins on digital content. MS over here playing 4d chess or some shit/.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
I don't think digital numbers for the second week are out yet, also physical dropping from 30% to 15% in total in just one week seems too much.
Also it was recorded that the physical drop week on week was really good.
It's probably a combo of both (sony selling more physical relative to xbox and physical dropping relative to digital) but that's too much maths for me.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Yeah I wouldn't describe it as lagging. It's right in the middle of Switch and Xbox.Lagging?
The digital splits for the last 2 quarters are as follows:
Q4 FY2020 - 79%
Q1 FY2021 - 70%
The industry average is 72% for consoles as of december last year:
91% of 2020's Game Industry Revenue Was Digital
The video game industry is quickly moving away from physical copies and brick-and-mortar stores, as game sales are now almost completely online.
Lognor
Banned
Yes, lagging. From the very article you linked. Digital was 73% on PS in 2020. From the COD example it was 90% digital on XSX. Do we know what it was on PS? If not, we can assume it is consistent with their overall digital slaes of 73%. 73% vs 90%. LAGGING.Lagging?
The digital splits for the last 2 quarters are as follows:
Q4 FY2020 - 79%
Q1 FY2021 - 70%
The industry average is 72% for consoles as of december last year:
91% of 2020's Game Industry Revenue Was Digital
The video game industry is quickly moving away from physical copies and brick-and-mortar stores, as game sales are now almost completely online.