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[IDappa]

I just played it on controller for the first time since the test flight... they didn't improve the aiming AT ALL since then... wtf?
there were literally dozens of highly voted threads on the official subreddit about how awful and behind the times their aiming and the aim settings are -_-
Some guy even did a whole FUCKING ESSAY on what exactly is wrong with it and how to improve it... HE GAVE THEM THE SOLUTION...

I forgot how bad it actually was tho, it's so sluggish and slow and the sensitivity curve is so shit... and the forced acceleration that you can only change the speed up of but not turn off completely...
IT'S SO BAD... how is it SO BAD?

they literally completely ignored the feedback they got by dozens of threads on reddit with thousands of upvotes... I am shocked...
we live in a world where the Halo clone (Splitgate) has vastly superior controller aiming as the newest mainline Halo game... this is just unbelievable, holy shit

this is especially bad because I play with people on XBox and the ranked playlists are separated into controller only and Mouse & Keyboard only, so if I wanna play ranked with my friends
I need to use these god awful controller aim settings they have

if that wasn't the case it wouldn't even be that bad, because I could just use Steam controller settings to emulate a mouse on the right stick (which I did in the test flight) which feels SOOOO GOOD...
but I can't with the way ranked works

EDIT:

Aiming in the flights felt shit to me I couldn't even hit a side of a barb, but in full release they definitely improved on the aiming. Will I say it's perfect not at all but I am definitely top 3 on the scoreboard most matches.

Try these setting if you like.

Turn acceleration to 1
And your right stick at least should be
1.0
3.0
3.0

Sensitivity whatever you like. I've kept them close to default.

 

[IDappa]

There's a code for each of these

That bottom needlers about £100

I hope people are figuring out now why Halo infinite is free 2 play and has limited customisation options...

While I'm at it you should buy all of these figures too.

As they also have armour colours locked behind them.

Oh these ones too

Gaming companies have been doing this for years while the game itself costed $100. Why is it a problem now with a FTP game which also doesn't have any impact on gameplay other than appearances.

Geez living in aus we don't even get access to promos like this most of the time. Fuck I drink monsters every now and then I wouldn't mind spending $2 bucks to get a energy hit and a shiny skin to Tbag some kids with, unfortunately we don't get those offers. Only ones are the nerf guns and I have the restraint to not spend $150 for a skin with a nerf gun attached. I still fail to see the problem other than people not having self control.

 

[SteadyEvo]

Minimap is completely useless. I’ve been shit and melee’d countless times and the map provided no information. Make it useful or remove it

 

[eastcoastkody]

Minimap is completely useless. I’ve been shit and melee’d countless times and the map provided no information. Make it useful or remove it

its not in ranked...which i prefer. I felt the same way about Crucible in Destiny 1. I luvd Inferno game mode because no radar/mini map. Because i find myself staring at the mini map if its in a PVP game

 

[01011001]

Aiming in the flights felt shit to me I couldn't even hit a side of a barb, but in full release they definitely improved on the aiming. Will I say it's perfect not at all but I am definitely top 3 on the scoreboard most matches.

Try these setting if you like.

Turn acceleration to 1
And your right stick at least should be
1.0
3.0
3.0

Sensitivity whatever you like. I've kept them close to default.

so first of all, acceleration on 1 is about as bad as you can set it to... so hell no to that. axial deadzone to 3 is also shit...

my issue is not hitting people or getting high kills. my issue is that the game feels like pure garbage to play.
it's easy to hit with that crazy aim assist in the game, it just feels like ass to do so.

also even the max turn speed is about half as fast as I would like.

it literally feels like playing a PS2/Xbox era shooter... nah that would gave it some credit it doesn't deserve honestly, because I just played Max Payne 2 via backwards compatibility and that has better analog aiming than Infinite, and no I am not exaggerating, it literally has. better sensitivity curve, no acceleration, faster top speed.


these are my settings, and this is the only way I can play it without throwing up

the look sensitivity should go all the way up to 30 at least, acceleration needs an off option (on 5 you notice it the least, but it still sucks ass) and we need at least the option for linear and 2 additional sensitivity curves that are between linear and what ever the fuck the abomination is that they use currently.

 

[Thaedolus]

Minimap is completely useless. I’ve been shit and melee’d countless times and the map provided no information. Make it useful or remove it

It shows where people are relative to you and if they’re on a different level, but not if they’re crouched when moving or not moving at all. Maybe people are just waiting for you to come around a corner because you’re not being stealthy? It’s useful if you know how it works

 

[01011001]

It shows where people are relative to you and if they’re on a different level, but not if they’re crouched when moving or not moving at all. Maybe people are just waiting for you to come around a corner because you’re not being stealthy? It’s useful if you know how it works

the distance is too low, it's the lowest it has ever been. you have about 0.5 seconds of reaction time if you see someone behind you on it. which in combination with the dogshit controller aiming that is way too slow, makes it so that you have basically no chance to react to anything behind you

 

[Thaedolus]

the distance is too low, it's the lowest it has ever been. you have about 0.5 seconds of reaction time if you see someone behind you on it. which in combination with the dogshit controller aiming that is way too slow, makes it so that you have basically no chance to react to anything behind you

Don’t use a controller

 

[01011001]

Don’t use a controller

yeah that is great advice... especially in a game where the aim assist is so OP that not playing on controller on the mixed playlists (which is every playlist except for the ranked Mouse & Keyboard one) is basically like having handicap settings turned on in Smash Bros.

a better fix would of course be if they had controller aiming that isn't stuck in 2001... but apparently noone at 343i plays first person shooters... so that won't happen anytime soon

 

[Dr. Claus]

Gaming companies have been doing this for years while the game itself costed $100. Why is it a problem now with a FTP game which also doesn't have any impact on gameplay other than appearances.

Geez living in aus we don't even get access to promos like this most of the time. Fuck I drink monsters every now and then I wouldn't mind spending $2 bucks to get a energy hit and a shiny skin to Tbag some kids with, unfortunately we don't get those offers. Only ones are the nerf guns and I have the restraint to not spend $150 for a skin with a nerf gun attached. I still fail to see the problem other than people not having self control.

It was shit then, its shit now. We shouldn’t just roll over and let these companies screw us over.

Maybe stop dismissing this shit and fight back against it and we may see some change.

 

[IDappa]

so first of all, acceleration on 1 is about as bad as you can set it to... so hell no to that. axial acceleration to 3 is also shit...

my issue is not hitting people or getting high kills. my issue is that the game feels like pure garbage to play.
it's easy to hit with that crazy aim assist in the game, it just feels like ass to do so.

also even the max turn speed is about half as fast as I would like.

it literally feels like playing a PS2/Xbox era shooter... nah that would gave it some credit it doesn't deserve honestly, because I just played Max Payne 2 via backwards compatibility and that has better analog aiming than Infinite, and no I am not exaggerating, it literally has. better sensitivity curve, no acceleration, faster top speed.


these are my settings, and this is the only way I can play it without throwing up

the look sensitivity should go all the way up to 30 at least, acceleration needs an off option (on 5 you notice it the least, but it still sucks ass) and we need at least the option for linear and 2 additional sensitivity curves that are between linear and what ever the fuck the abomination is that they use currently.

No clue why you're saying the settings I'm using are shit when you said you can't shoot people with the settings you're running, maybe give it a go. Have my deadzone on 3 as I don't want stick drift, I could drop it lower but I'm doing great as is. No clue why your input threshold is up so far could be a reason why you aren't doing very well and why it's not snappy and who the fuck increases their aim acceleration to max and then complains the devs need to turn it off, this doesn't make sense. Aim acceleration fucks with your muscle memory as it's not a consistent sense.

 

[IDappa]

It was shit then, its shit now. We shouldn’t just roll over and let these companies screw us over.

Maybe stop dismissing this shit and fight back against it and we may see some change.

What are they screwing us over with in this instance was my point?. It's a free game which you do not have to spend a dime on, they give you some free unlocks which are not the best but really most first seasons of battlepasses aren't great so I'm sure this will improve. So again what is wrong with this other than people feeling entitled to shit?.

 

[01011001]

No clue why you're saying the settings I'm using are shit when you said you can't shoot people with the settings you're running,

I literally stopped reading your comment here... I LITERALLY SAID THE FUCKING OPPOSITE... why can noone read properly these days?

my ability to aim at someone and hit someone ARE NOT THE ISSUE... that is easy... the game has the most fucked up OP aim assist in history of gaming... if you have issues hitting people I question your ability to hold a controller

I said the game FEELS AWFUL to play... a game that feels awful to play is not the same as a game in which it is hard to shoot at people.
I want to switch to Controller because controller is so OP, but on the other hand I don't want to because it is the worst controller aiming of any modern MP game I know.

Splitgate, a Halo clone made by less than 20 people, has better aiming than Halo, it is almost perfect in fact. yet I have a harder time hitting people in Splitgate because aim assist is not quite as OP and mouse players actually have an advantage in it due to the portal placement being way faster on a mouse.

so again, Feels like shit =/= Hard to hit people

 

[Dr. Claus]

What are they screwing us over with in this instance was my point?. It's a free game which you do not have to spend a dime on, they give you some free unlocks which are not the best but really most first seasons of battlepasses aren't great so I'm sure this will improve. So again what is wrong with this other than people feeling entitled to shit?.

Being “free” doesn’t excuse the shitty design. The lack of content, the piss poor options, the god awful controller settings (Thanks 01011001 , your settings made it somewhat fucking bearable), the greedy, manipulative money practices.

The only, ONLY reason they made this free to play is so they can have folks like you make shitty excuses for their terrible design.

This is fucking HALO, man. This shit should not be OK. We should expect more out of a massive industry defining franchise such as this. Not rolling over and getting fucked in the ass. When releases from 10+ years ago have MORE content, better progression, and are objectively better in every single way outside of graphical fidelity? That isn’t good. That is fucking awful.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Gaming companies have been doing this for years while the game itself costed $100. Why is it a problem now with a FTP game which also doesn't have any impact on gameplay other than appearances.

Geez living in aus we don't even get access to promos like this most of the time. Fuck I drink monsters every now and then I wouldn't mind spending $2 bucks to get a energy hit and a shiny skin to Tbag some kids with, unfortunately we don't get those offers. Only ones are the nerf guns and I have the restraint to not spend $150 for a skin with a nerf gun attached. I still fail to see the problem other than people not having self control.

I got the M40A Nerf gun from like kmart for $79 btw. It's my first Nerf gun and it's great fun.

I'm with you - i have no problem with these things, and like you said, everyone has been doing it for years. Literally no downsides to it unless you're some anal "gotta have it all" skin collector.

As to the guys above saying that the controls are awful and that the game feels "awful" to play - "git gud" is really all that can be said. It feels perfect with a controller.

 

[captainclutch777]

Glad I'm not the only one that felt like the controller feels off. I actually hated halo 5 mainly for the changes they made to the controller input. A lot of these newer games have terrible feeling on sticks and most players are too casual to actually notice it seems. I think Titanfall 2 and Destiny 2 are the best modern shooters in terms of stick feel. Hopefully 343 figures it out, not sure how it can release with it like it is right now.

 

[IDappa]

I literally stopped reading your comment here... I LITERALLY SAID THE FUCKING OPPOSITE... why can noone read properly these days?

my ability to aim at someone and hit someone ARE NOT THE ISSUE... that is easy... the game has the most fucked up OP aim assist in history of gaming... if you have issues hitting people I question your ability to hold a controller

I said the game FEELS AWFUL to play... a game that feels awful to play is not the same as a game in which it is hard to shoot at people.

Well by the way you're carrying and the complaining about the ingame settings which made me think you've been smacked around a few times and feel like it's the games fault. Judging from the way you have interacted with me in the first couple of posts it seems pretty clear. Gave you some settings to maybe help you sjit on them and then posts setting that show why you're getting drilled.

Lol complains about not being able to turn off aim acceleration so the solution obviously is to crank it all the way haha.

 

[IDappa]

I got the M40A Nerf gun from like kmart for $79 btw. It's my first Nerf gun and it's great fun.

I'm with you - i have no problem with these things, and like you said, everyone has been doing it for years. Literally no downsides to it unless you're some anal "gotta have it all" skin collector.

As to the guys above saying that the controls are awful and that the game feels "awful" to play - "git gud" is really all that can be said. It feels perfect with a controller.

Keep walking past it at the shops when I'm with my kid and have been able to stop myself from buying it. But maybe it could be a good present for the little one at Chrissie *cough*.

I find usually the people who complain about those sort of promos are the skin collector type. Complain about the bad practices then drop $20 on a ingame knife.

For sure that's the vibe I'm getting. I haven't had a problem with them other than in the flights.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Keep walking past it at the shops when I'm with my kid and have been able to stop myself from buying it. But maybe it could be a good present for the little one at Chrissie *cough*.

I find usually the people who complain about those sort of promos are the skin collector type. Complain about the bad practices then drop $20 on a ingame knife.

For sure that's the vibe I'm getting. I haven't had a problem with them other than in the flights.

Or people want content in the game obtainable, you guessed it, in the damn game.

Again, just because this shit has been going on for years doesn’t mean its acceptable.

 

[MrFunSocks]

I find usually the people who complain about those sort of promos are the skin collector type. Complain about the bad practices then drop $20 on a ingame knife.

This is it no doubt. They're just furious that there are skins that other people can get that they can't/don't have.

Or people want content in the game obtainable, you guessed it, in the damn game.

Again, just because this shit has been going on for years doesn’t mean its acceptable.

Think about it like this though - if the "buy a can of monster and get a code for a monster skin" promo didn't exist, there wouldn't be a monster skin. What you're basically saying is that you want LESS CONTENT simply because you don't want to buy the extra content.

There's nothing unacceptable about this. It's just skins. If it was stuff that gave you an advantage in game, like buffed weapons or abilities, then sure, that would be unacceptable. Good thing it's just stupid cosmetics.

 

[IDappa]

Being “free” doesn’t excuse the shitty design. The lack of content, the piss poor options, the god awful controller settings (Thanks 01011001 , your settings made it somewhat fucking bearable), the greedy, manipulative money practices.

The only, ONLY reason they made this free to play is so they can have folks like you make shitty excuses for their terrible design.

This is fucking HALO, man. This shit should not be OK. We should expect more out of a massive industry defining franchise such as this. Not rolling over and getting fucked in the ass. When releases from 10+ years ago have MORE content, better progression, and are objectively better in every single way outside of graphical fidelity? That isn’t good. That is fucking awful.

You don't even know my thoughts on the progression?. So how can you lump me into that group?. Do you maybe think one can be critical and also defend elements of a product or experience?.

 

[Dynasty8]

I literally stopped reading your comment here... I LITERALLY SAID THE FUCKING OPPOSITE... why can noone read properly these days?

my ability to aim at someone and hit someone ARE NOT THE ISSUE... that is easy... the game has the most fucked up OP aim assist in history of gaming... if you have issues hitting people I question your ability to hold a controller

I said the game FEELS AWFUL to play... a game that feels awful to play is not the same as a game in which it is hard to shoot at people.
I want to switch to Controller because controller is so OP, but on the other hand I don't want to because it is the worst controller aiming of any modern MP game I know.

Splitgate, a Halo clone made by less than 20 people, has better aiming than Halo, it is almost perfect in fact. yet I have a harder time hitting people in Splitgate because aim assist is not quite as OP and mouse players actually have an advantage in it due to the portal placement being way faster on a mouse.

so again, Feels like shit =/= Hard to hit people

As a die hard Halo fan, I agree with you.

It's the honeymoon phase for Infinite right now... I'm glad people are enjoying it, but many things (primarily the aiming) feels like shit and outdated.

 

[IDappa]

Or people want content in the game obtainable, you guessed it, in the damn game.

Again, just because this shit has been going on for years doesn’t mean its acceptable.

From what I've seen there looks to be quite a bit of content that's held back for release (cosmetic wise). I'll judge this when the game is fully released. As for the promos outside of the game again don't buy them mate, you don't have to. As Mrsocks said these skins may not of even been made if they weren't a cross branding sort of deal.

 

[Dr. Claus]

You don't even know my thoughts on the progression?. So how can you lump me into that group?. Do you maybe think one can be critical and also defend elements of a product or experience?.

Re-read my Post. You clearly didn’t read it correctly the first time.

 

[IDappa]

The only, ONLY reason they made this free to play is so they can have folks like you make shitty excuses for their terrible design.

Sure seems you lumped me in a group mate. Maybe proof read your own shit.

 

[Dr. Claus]

This is it no doubt. They're just furious that there are skins that other people can get that they can't/don't have.


Think about it like this though - if the "buy a can of monster and get a code for a monster skin" promo didn't exist, there wouldn't be a monster skin. What you're basically saying is that you want LESS CONTENT simply because you don't want to buy the extra content.

There's nothing unacceptable about this. It's just skins. If it was stuff that gave you an advantage in game, like buffed weapons or abilities, then sure, that would be unacceptable. Good thing it's just stupid cosmetics.

And? We should be demanding our games be feature complete at launch. Not piece-mealed out and barebones. It *is* unacceptable and we shouldn’t promote this kind of shitty, predatory design.

Sure seems you lumped me in a group mate. Maybe proof read your own shit.

I didn’t. Learn to read past a pre-kindergarten level.

 

[MrFunSocks]

All this talk about bad progression is also ridiculous when progression in this isn't like it is in other games. You're not unlocking new attachments for your guns or new weapons to use in your classes, just cosmetics.

And? We should be demanding our games be feature complete at launch. Not piece-mealed out and barebones. It *is* unacceptable and we shouldn’t promote this kind of shitty, predatory design.

What's not feature complete about this beta of Infinite MP? Skins aren't features.

Also there's nothing "predatory" about it. The fact that you use that word shows your where your mindset is - you think anything that isn't given to you on a silver platter is "predatory". "buy X to get Y" isn't predatory in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Dr. Claus]

All this talk about bad progression is also ridiculous when progression in this isn't like it is in other games. You're not unlocking new attachments for your guns or new weapons to use in your classes, just cosmetics.

True, but even if you personally don’t care, other people do. Those people you play with and against. They ruin games as they ignore objectives and instead go for challenges instead. Today’s update didn’t fix that problem.

 

[MrFunSocks]

True, but even if you personally don’t care, other people do. Those people you play with and against. They ruin games as they ignore objectives and instead go for challenges instead. Today’s update didn’t fix that problem.

I've been playing games long before battle passes and challenges to unlock cosmetics were a thing and most people ignored objectives and just went for kills even back then. That's just what happens when the large majority of the player base in these games are 14 year old kids that just want to "360 no scope 420 blaze it".

Other people can care about not unlocking cosmetics fast enough, that's fine - but they need to understand that they seem to be only playing the game for the unlocks, not for the actual game and its gameplay.

 

[Dr. Claus]

All this talk about bad progression is also ridiculous when progression in this isn't like it is in other games. You're not unlocking new attachments for your guns or new weapons to use in your classes, just cosmetics.


What's not feature complete about this beta of Infinite MP? Skins aren't features.

Also there's nothing "predatory" about it. The fact that you use that word shows your where your mindset is - you think anything that isn't given to you on a silver platter is "predatory". "buy X to get Y" isn't predatory in any way, shape, or form.

This isn’t a beta. It’s a finished product. This is everything, maps, modes, etc that we would have gotten on Dec 8th. The devs *literally* stated that. Not sure how you haven’t figured that out yet.

As for ”wanting things on a silver platter”, don’t create strawman arguments. Reach is one such example of a progression/content system done right (outside of the glitch where the XP needed for things past Warrant Officer were much higher than they were supposed to be). Everything was in the game. You didn’t need to pay money, didn’t need to buy “passes”. you just bought the game and played it. It isn’t a difficult concept to comprehend. A finished product. A completed product. That is what we, as consumers, as gamers, should be asking for.

Claiming it isn’t predatory is absolutely idiotic And shows where your mindset it.

 

[MrFunSocks]

This isn’t a beta. It’s a finished product. This is everything, maps, modes, etc that we would have gotten on Dec 8th. The devs *literally* stated that. Not sure how you haven’t figured that out yet.

As for ”wanting things on a silver platter”, don’t create strawman arguments. Reach is one such example of a progression/content system done right (outside of the glitch where the XP needed for things past Warrant Officer were much higher than they were supposed to be). Everything was in the game. You didn’t need to pay money, didn’t need to buy “passes”. you just bought the game and played it. It isn’t a difficult concept to comprehend. A finished product. A completed product. That is what we, as consumers, as gamers, should be asking for.

Claiming it isn’t predatory is absolutely idiotic And shows where your mindset it.

It's called the Halo Inifinite Beta and was announced as such btw. Again - what isn't "feature complete" about it in regards to what we're talking about? Skins are not features.

Reach was 11 years ago, quite a bit has changed since then lol. Reach also wasn't free.

What exactly is predatory? Explain it to me. Give me examples and explain how it is predatory.

 

[Dr. Claus]

It's called the Halo Inifinite Beta and was announced as such btw. Again - what isn't "feature complete" about it in regards to what we're talking about? Skins are not features.

Reach was 11 years ago, quite a bit has changed since then lol. Reach also wasn't free.

What exactly is predatory? Explain it to me. Give me examples and explain how it is predatory.

I literally have, countless times already in this thread and others. As have many other people.

Since you have your head in the sand and refuse to actually discuss, I will just leave you to it. Just make sure to swallow with a smile when the Dev’s finish.

 

[MrFunSocks]

I literally have, countless times already in this thread and others. As have many other people.

Since you have your head in the sand and refuse to actually discuss, I will just leave you to it. Just make sure to swallow with a smile when the Dev’s finish.

You haven't given me any examples of how it is predatory, and if you have given them already earlier it should be super simple for you to just go back and copy/paste them here

I'm trying to discuss, you're the one being needlessly antagonistic and childish. Grow up.

Simple question here - what is "predatory" about Halo Infinite?

 

[Robochobo]

There's over 160 days left in this season alone and people are still upset they aren't halfway through the BP... The fact people are also upset about a FTP title having MTX is also mind boggling.

 

[Plantoid]

Jesus, why so mad it's just fucking skins, who buys this shit? I certainly don't.

 

[Naked Lunch]

The aiming takes a very long time to adjust but you can make it fit your playstyle. It took me almost 2 days of constant tweaking to get it correct. Im not sure why this is so hard for 343 to get right.

To make matters worse - the Look Deadzones are all the way at the bottom of the huge Settings menu - takes forever to adjust. One time I was even changing the "Move" Deadzones by accident and was wondering why my shit didnt feel different

As a huge Halo fan, in particular Halo 3, the more I play Infinite, the better it gets. It allows for some serious skills flexing if youre able. Ive posted this elsewhere - but the game is very much its own thing: its not Halo 3 or even Halo 5. Ive accepted Infinite for what it is.

 

[SatansReverence]

As a die hard Halo fan, I agree with you.

It's the honeymoon phase for Infinite right now... I'm glad people are enjoying it, but many things (primarily the aiming) feels like shit and outdated.

The controller aiming really is incredibly poor.

The sad thing is so many people think the game has low aim assist when it actually has damn near aimbot levels of assist for controller players.

Crossplay is just a bad experience for PC players since all the weapons are balanced around the existence of strong bullet magnetism only to remove that on PC.

 

[MrFunSocks]

The aiming takes a very long time to adjust but you can make it fit your playstyle. It took me almost 2 days of constant tweaking to get it correct. Im not sure why this is so hard for 343 to get right.

They got it right out of the box for me. Having absolutely zero problems or trouble.

 

[Naked Lunch]

They got it right out of the box for me. Having absolutely zero problems or trouble.

Yeah thats whats interesting. Of my 6 friends that play - its split 50/50 for us on people who are fine with the default or the others who had to majorly tweak it.

 

[BigBooper]

What practical way is there to allow pc and console players to play together without giving the consoles an advantage? That's the eternal struggle of controller vs mouse + keyboard.

Doesn't the game have an option to let you turn off crossplay, but it's grayed out for the beta? Not able to look right now, but I believe it does.

 

[MrFunSocks]

What practical way is there to allow pc and console players to play together without giving the consoles an advantage?

Controller vs Controller or M+K vs M+K. Only way it should be done for games like this.

 

[SatansReverence]

What practical way is there to allow pc and console players to play together without giving the consoles an advantage? That's the eternal struggle of controller vs mouse + keyboard.

Doesn't the game have an option to let you turn off crossplay, but it's grayed out for the beta? Not able to look right now, but I believe it does.

1. Don't have dogshit aiming mechanics
2. Don't have bullet bending magnetism that biases nonsensical headshots
3. Stop having massive aim assist at short ranges while having literally nothing at long range

 

[WoodyStare]

“I’ll just play a couple of matches.”

*three hours later*

 

[01011001]

1. Don't have dogshit aiming mechanics
2. Don't have bullet bending magnetism that biases nonsensical headshots
3. Stop having massive aim assist at short ranges while having literally nothing at long range

this. those are really big issues in Halo Infinite ATM.
on one hand I want to play on controller because it's basically free kills due to the aim assist, but on the other hand I play on Mouse because playing on controller feels like fucking torture due to how behind the times and shit the aiming feels.

your choice is between "feels decent but is a handycap" and "omg who programmed this shit... but I get free headshots with this"

 

[IDappa]

You haven't given me any examples of how it is predatory, and if you have given them already earlier it should be super simple for you to just go back and copy/paste them here

I'm trying to discuss, you're the one being needlessly antagonistic and childish. Grow up.

Simple question here - what is "predatory" about Halo Infinite?

His argument is its predatory and the reason that it is predatory, is well its predatory you know. Reach had all its content on day dot after I purchased it for $100. Its exactly the same situation guys.

 

[01011001]

His argument is its predatory and the reason that it is predatory, is well its predatory you know. Reach had all its content on day dot after I purchased it for $100. Its exactly the same situation guys.

Reach was $60 and had 10x the content
Infinite is $60 and has no multiplayer

Multiplayer is its own thing and has less content and a worse battle pass than this game made by 12 people:

in said game you can literally unlock the battlepass for free by simply playing the game (I played the game for ~9 weeks and got it free...)
after getting the battle pass you unlock in game currency, which is enough to buy the next one whenever it will release


now compare that to Infinite...

 

[SteadyEvo]

“I’ll just play a couple of matches.”

*three hours later*

Woodystare.jpeg

I wanna get a mic just so people can hear my rage at getting melee’d and shot from behind. Several hours into this and I haven’t heard a single mic. Strange…

 

[MrFunSocks]

Reach was $60 and had 10x the content
Infinite is $60 and has no multiplayer

Multiplayer is its own thing and has less content and a worse battle pass than this game made by 12 people:

in said game you can literally unlock the battlepass for free by simply playing the game (I played the game for ~9 weeks and got it free...)
after getting the battle pass you unlock in game currency, which is enough to buy the next one whenever it will release


now compare that to Infinite...

How does any of that make it "predatory"?

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I wanna get a mic just so people can hear my rage at getting melee’d and shot from behind. Several hours into this and I haven’t heard a single mic. Strange…

This is online gaming in 2021. Everyones in party chat or just not chatting after learning our lesson from all the childish, racist kids on there that talked. If you don't talk, they don't spew crap.

 

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How does any of that make it "predatory"?

I didn't argue for that, I argued against his comparison with Reach, which was stupid to say the least. reach was a full price game that included hundreds of pieces of customization, a fully functioning Forge that was revolutionary at the time, a fully kitted custom game editor, a full campaign and about 10x the amount of modes and more maps on top of that...

Infinite is full price for the Campaign alone, and the free 2 play multiplayer has barely any content with vital parts launching half a year after the launch of the game

yet another shitshow produced by the most incompetent idiot developers at 343i... the only reason they get any praise for infinite is because the artstyle isn't garbage tier anymore and the game actually somewhat feels like a Halo game, which was not the case with their other titles.
that doesn't change the fact tho that the game ONCE AGAIN releases in an unfinished state and misses core modes and features of the Bungie games

 

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Played a bit after a tiring day, and damn... This game feels so good to play!

Without a doubt one of the most fun competitive shooter I played for quite a long time!

Can't wait for the campaign!