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[AddictedProxy]

If someone tells me they’ve got $500 million in the bank and I find out they only seem to have $450 million, I’d be a damn clown to go on a rant about how they misrepresented facts. Because - most importantly - they’re still fucking rich.

wailing that one of the most stunning next gen gameplay trailer we’ve seen isn’t up to par with an earlier reveal that was never touted as ‘gameplay’ is completely nuts.

I did not go on a rant. I made a post about the downgrade and my disappointment and got dogpilled for it. Sure I could ignore all the shitposts and in some cases I did, but why I am the bad guy here? I dont remember all the defense for downgrades like Watch Dogs etc. but I was also not on this forum at the time so maybe people love defending corporate bullshit on here.

I also disagree with your 500/450 analogy because the differences are way bigger imo.

 

[SirTerry-T]

Lighting can drastically affect how something looks. The model can be identical but a change in lighting can make one appear less detailed or realistic. If you take Uncharted 4 for example, the models in cutscene are the same as the models in gameplay but they appear less detailed and because the lighting is different during gameplay.

To be fair, cutscene models are sometimes a higher LOD than the one the player will be seeing in game and obviously the less geometry there is in a model, the less information real time lighting will have to work with. I think that's maybe what we are seeing with the new Hellblade visuals but it's hardly an earth shattering difference from that first reveal....not that it would stop those with an agenda anyway

 

[Silent Viper]

Reveal was Engine trailer vs Ingame trailer now. Differences will be there always. Assets, art and all changes.


Hatred towards this game is understandable, i mean Xbox is on fire this year. They badly wanted Halo to fail and it also delivered and Now Hellblade2 looking fire, xbox games got more awards than PS games at VGAs.

So salt is real and its coming non stop.

 

[Silent Viper]

downgrade it looks like hellblade1 just a bit better

Lol ite not on same engine. Its UE5 and 1st one was UE3. So it can't look same no matter how u look at it.

 

[HYDE]

Why are they so fucking scared to show a single snippet of gameplay, pussies!

 

[hussar16]

Looks good, not like the original trailer but still good

looks like the first game now

 

[Butch_0451]

Have you played teh first game? It’s consists of eye puzzles and some veeerry barebones combat segments.

It’s about as Walk-y simulator-y as it gets

Finished the first to completion and although the scope was relatively small and game quite linear, the game outside of cutscenes was still was very interactive.

The first wasn’t exactly breaking new grounds in terms of gameplay and was a bit of a walking sim in some parts sure but injecting small bursts of gameplay inside a cutscene it did not.

 

[Silent Viper]

Downgrade or not it's not super important tbh, maybe there is some but graphics looks great, but the gameplay(which is the most important aspect in any videogame) seems limited and doesn't look very exciting.

Did They say its gameplay trailer?


It was not the best gameplay showing. More like ingame cinematic trailer with some gameplay segments no hud.

 

[existensmaximum]

Finally, a game with some proper motion capture and animation! Looks really promising, not bad at all!

 

[MonarchJT]

hands down best next gen graphics on any platform. wow

 

[Silent Viper]

"in engine" means fuck all. go back and watch the first uncharted 4 trailer. that was in engine too and drake looked nothing like that in the final game. when they say in engine, what they are really saying is, the final game wont look like that.

This said ingame. Reveal was in engine. Watch video again

 

[hussar16]

Lol ite not on same engine. Its UE5 and 1st one was UE3. So it can't look same no matter how u look at it.

u do know u can import assets into the new engine,the reveal traailer looked amazing i guess unreal engine 5 can be scaled down and downgraded

 

[MonarchJT]

downgrade it looks like hellblade1 just a bit better

reported for trolling

 

[Silent Viper]

I am? Where did I say the game was downgraded? I said the game looks good but the previous trailer looks better.

Previous trailer was in-engine not real time ingame trailer.

This Ingame real time trailer. So yes there's difference. No engine trailer and ingame trailer ever looked same

 

[Iced Arcade]

Imagine trying to say any of that looked bad lol. What a hill to have your opinion die on.

Addictedproxy is definitely a perm that couldn't stay away from the gaf crack.

 

[Silent Viper]

u do know u can import assets into the new engine,the reveal traailer looked amazing i guess unreal engine 5 can be scaled down and downgraded

Not from UE3.

They making from scratch not importing anything. Stop talking so dumb. Go read about UE5 and how it works. Your posts show nothing but salt and anger lol

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I was impressed, can’t wait to see more

 

[Tripolygon]

The previous trailer was also in-engine. Not gameplay. So saying it looked better is practically redundant because any game's in-engine trailer is going to look better than its gameplay trailer!

So it looks better, that is not a redundant statement. How does that make me insufferable? I shared some amazing screenshots and said it looks good but not as good as the previous trailer. That is literally it. Lol

Must have mistaken you to the other troller then. My bad there.

You really can't mistake me for anyone from my post you quoted. But ok.

 

[Warnen]

Meh

 

[Little Chicken]

Hideous!

 

[tmlDan]

that's a massive downgrade and all she did was walk back and forth and throw spears that look like twigs? they looked very strange when she threw them.

Definitely a drop in hype compared to the reveal.

 

[IDappa]

Anyone who looks at these captures and still has the nerve to say there was no downgrade is a total bulshitter.

Don't act like you didn't

I did not go on a rant. I made a post about the downgrade and my disappointment and got dogpilled for it. Sure I could ignore all the shitposts and in some cases I did, but why I am the bad guy here? I dont remember all the defense for downgrades like Watch Dogs etc. but I was also not on this forum at the time so maybe people love defending corporate bullshit on here.

I also disagree with your 500/450 analogy because the differences are way bigger imo.

People called you out on your bullshit because you said this looks last gen. It's one thing to bring up the model downgrade it's a massive stretch to say this look like a ps4/x1 game, comes off disingenuous.

 

[SSfox]

Did They say its gameplay trailer?


It was not the best gameplay showing. More like ingame cinematic trailer with some gameplay segments no hud.

What's the point of showing a trailer 2 years after the first tease to not show gameplay?

It's already annoying to not have gameplay showing in first reveal (Yo Wonderwoman), but in 2nd trailer? really??? This stuff got old imo at least. To me i like it the way games like GOW and MK11 were revealed, straight off real gameplay, this is videogames, not movies in case some people forgot.

 

[SSfox]

Hideous!

There is some downgrade but saying it's hideous is exaggerating imo, i think it's still look great graphics wise. But i would use Hideous to describe the gameplay showing.

 

[fallingdove]

hands down best next gen graphics on any platform. wow

You are delusional. That was a mediocre showing at best.

It wasn’t even a particularly complex scene. Shrouded in darkness, a limited number of assets, a handful of lighting sources. Senua awkwardly throws a couple of spears and runs away and it is a gameplay reveal?

God I hate these events. Objectivity is always in short supply during the “after party”.

 

[reksveks]

was not the best gameplay showing. More like ingame cinematic trailer with some gameplay segments no hud.

Think most gameplay trailers don't include a hud nowadays and also includes camera cuts/angles that typically don't make it to the end game

Example of another gameplay trailer dropped today without a hud.

 

[Sacred]

There is a hell of alot of salt in here for a 5 minute gameplay snippet. The game looks incredible, the details, the polish, the facial animations best in the business. I want to see the combat, I want to see the meat of the game. However, this was a beautiful reveal for in-game and imo matched up very well with the reveal trailer.

 

[wolffy71]

Is sony paying the people in this thread or do they just donate their time and energy?

 

[T0minator]

Game looks to be similar to God of War.

The Order 1886 Vibes all the way. The black border, and cinematic gameplay style are very very similar. Lots of graphics with very little gameplay elements. If you really think about that Hellblade 2 video...there wasn't much in the way of actual gameplay. The Order 1886 vibes all the way

 

[3liteDragon]

Think most gameplay trailers don't include a hud nowadays and also includes camera cuts/angles that typically don't make it to the end game

Example of another gameplay trailer dropped today without a hud.

The Tsushima reveal in 2018 didn't have a HUD either I think.

 

[wolffy71]

If you never played the first game the idea that this cant be gameplay is understandable.

The game has weird features like focusing on something, as when the voices say look at the bones. You looking for clues or puzzles i guess. So ur kinda doing things like that instead of actual combat in some scenes, like this one.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

I did not go on a rant. I made a post about the downgrade and my disappointment and got dogpilled for it. Sure I could ignore all the shitposts and in some cases I did, but why I am the bad guy here? I dont remember all the defense for downgrades like Watch Dogs etc. but I was also not on this forum at the time so maybe people love defending corporate bullshit on here.

I also disagree with your 500/450 analogy because the differences are way bigger imo.

I agree you but I dont care that much.

It has great heavy effects, like the fog. But this game is giving me heavy The Order 1886 vibes. On rails and super liner. I expected an interactive improvement from the first game.

The facial animation was out of this world in the first showing. As was the lighting. Not much anymore. That being said visually it’s arguably some of the best out there.

Only games im actually excited to play is Horizon and Cuphead DLC. I was looking forward to DokeV, but that game might have lost the plot.

 

[Sacred]

Is sony paying the people in this thread or do they just donate their time and energy?

I would really like to know because it gets so old, try to enjoy anything from any other console and we get overwhelmed with trolls and fanboys. I just want to enjoy the trailers and discuss, not listen to idiots ramble on about mind-blowing games looking like they believe they are last gen or mediocre. When they are clearly just championing for one console like their livelihood depends on it.. It's so damn tiresome.

 

[R3claimer117]

Horizon zero Dawn, god of war , when all the Sony games start being thrown around I’d say ninja theory did a phenomenal job.

 

[skit_data]

Impressed by the fire and lighting, not very impressed by the gameplay itself. The first game was a little too much of a walking sim for my taste and this looks even more cinematic and ”Quantic Dream”-y which is a little disappointing if it is the case.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

Did They say its gameplay trailer?


It was not the best gameplay showing. More like ingame cinematic trailer with some gameplay segments no hud.

That was LITERALLY the whole first game. I feel like people who are confused didn't play the first game. Its a great exploration into psychosis in a fantasy world but a heavily cinematic experience...the gameplay is alot of slow walking with combat here and there.

 

[Sacred]

If you never played the first game the idea that this cant be gameplay is understandable.

The game has weird features like focusing on something, as when the voices say look at the bones. You looking for clues or puzzles i guess. So ur kinda doing things like that instead of actual combat in some scenes, like this one.

It's like people don't realize the first game had absolutely no HUD.

 

[Rea]

The skin texture look so blurry. The heavy use of lens effects, motion blur and chromatic aberration makes the game looks awful. Not to mention the black bars. Oh geez, please Ninja Theory, remove black bars and give us options to remove those awful lens effects.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

This looked nowhere near as good as that "in engine" trailer that they showed a few years ago, of course they didn't even say what hardware the engine was running on either. The chromatic aberration is way too high and it makes it look like they are trying to hide a lack of detail or something. This really wasn't all that impressive; it was fine but you could also tell it was very scripted even if it was gameplay. Nothing seemed to impact the giant when he got hit other than when he was scripted to react, everything she threw just bounced off and the fire quickly faded.

 

[supernova8]

I would like to see that exact scene (on the right) in-game before making any definitive judgement but yeah I'm not overly surprised. These "target renders" are almost always downgraded eventually. I'd say it looks close enough for me to be impressed. I would be wildly impressed if I hadn't been later spoiled like a child at Christmas by the Matrix stuff.

 

[sendit]

I would imagine further downgrades as we get closer to release. Or more optimization in terms of prebaked lighting. In regards to the original trailer, this is quite a few levels down. Keep expectations in check, this game also has to run on the Series S.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

downgrade it looks like hellblade1 just a bit better

LOL! lies.

 

[niilokin]

Loving the bleak visuals

 

[MonarchJT]

this sound like the downgrade emotional fantasia that suffered uncharted 4 over certain envy gamers. I'm afraid for someone's mental stability when Es6 and starfield will come out. Guys buy an Xbox..give yourself this gift

 

[supernova8]

There is some downgrade but saying it's hideous is exaggerating imo, i think it's still look great graphics wise. But i would use Hideous to describe the gameplay showing.

I'm thinking that hideous comment was meant to be sarcasm. I thought it looked great. I honestly expected it to be downgraded more so for them to keep it this good (albeit yes downgraded from the in-engine stuff) I'd be happy.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

I would imagine further downgrades as we get closer to release. Or more optimization in terms of prebaked lighting. In regards to the original trailer, this is quite a few levels down. Keep expectations in check, this game also has to run on the Series S.

Thats the main problem this generation..the series S...

 

[Represent.]

Stunning downgrade.

Looks pretty good, need to see combat

 

[reksveks]

Thats the main problem this generation..the series S...

Quite interesting point given that we have a thread about the matrix demo where people are extremely happy and they have no concerns about the series s causing an issue to the series x/ps5 version.

 

[MonarchJT]

Stunning downgrade.

Looks pretty good, need to see combat

imagine being the best graphics out there after all those downgrade!

 

[Balducci30]

How can people say with a straight face this looks like the first game or last gen or order 1886 is beyond me - this is clearly the best visuals we’ve seen out of next gen so far… anyone expecting better than this is dreaming. Still I can’t say this looked like a game I wanna play.