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Our desire is to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation - Phil Spencer
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ChuckeRearmed
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MS should trade COD for Spiderman. Make Spiderman multiplatform again 
Winter John
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I never said he would
Topher
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Then what does this mean?
"Phil/MS are going to be saying a lot of warm fuzzy things to appease the SEC."
Gamezone
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Do people really believe that Microsoft is willing to give Sony 30% of every Activision/Blizzard game sold on their system? Phil Spencer did confirm that future Bethesda titles will be Xbox exclusives, but he did honor all existing Bethesda agreements with Sony. That's why Deathloop released on PlayStation after Bethesda was bought, and old games wasn't removed. There's no reason at all to believe that they will act any differently this time.
Topher
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That is what I thought as well until this tweet. Phil Spencer made it clear that Bethesda games would be on devices "where Game Pass exists". That's not what he is saying with regard to Call of Duty at all. So no, he isn't committing "every Activision/Blizzard game", but he has committing to "to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation".
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ToTTenTranz
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Thread title:
"Our desire is to keep Call of Duty on Playstation" - Phil Spencer
Actual tweet from Phil Spencer:
Of course it's a totally different sentence. He didn't mean that their desire is to keep Call of Duty on Playstation. From that sentence we can obviously see that their desire is actually to take away Call of Duty from Playstation.
We just don't understand his double entendre.
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Topher
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Sarcasm?
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Not if a third of those left Playstation and started gaming on Xbox. They get more "users" and 100% of the sales of games and MTSs and Sony loses the 30% cut. It's a win win.
Winter John
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It means what it says. Phil is not going to roll up with his dick out and tell the SEC he's about to give Sony a fucking that would make Ron Jeremy wince. That would guarantee the deal gets blocked. It's not a coincidence that Bobby Kotick is suddenly giving interviews about his old pal Phil. Both companies are going to be giving the SEC the warm fuzzies until the deal goes through. After that, it's anyone's guess.
FunkMiller
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It would be incredibly silly of Sony to continue to put effort into the CoD franchise from now on. Their best bet is to create something to challenge it. This would only be a good thing for both them, and us.
This is how MS's purchase of Activision can be of benefit to us gamers. It forces Sony into making moves and making effort they might otherwise have not. Let's face it, CoD has been going downhill for years now. It's time we had something different, and this is Sony's opportunity to deliver that if they have the balls, the foresight and the creative talent to do it.
This is how MS's purchase of Activision can be of benefit to us gamers. It forces Sony into making moves and making effort they might otherwise have not. Let's face it, CoD has been going downhill for years now. It's time we had something different, and this is Sony's opportunity to deliver that if they have the balls, the foresight and the creative talent to do it.
Topher
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Not sure how what you are saying doesn't equate to blowing smoke up the SEC's ass and then turning around after the sale and doing whatever he wants, but ok....
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VN1X
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Sony will buy EA and then Playstation gets Apex and all the Star Wars stuff as well.
Shmunter
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Maybe, but that’s like hoping apple users go to android because of fortnite. Some will, most will never. The power of built up eco systems.
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JLB
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DrJamesOxford
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Playstation stopped communicating with fans and Xbox went and bought everything and offer gamepass which is hands-down the best value in gaming. Your move Sony
Winter John
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I'm not saying he's blowing smoke up the SEC's ass and will then do what he wants. I'm saying Phil/MS/Bobby and Acti will do everything they can to keep the SEC happy. What happens after the deal's gone through is anyone's guess. The one thing that won't happen is MS pulling all the current Acti/Blizz games off Playstation. That's pretty much a certainty. I expect MS will continue to release Acti/Blizz games on PS. It makes sense to release the standard version of games on PS while XBox will have exclusive content/deals, plus Gamepass.
JLB
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ha, no idea, but thats the more punchable face I saw in ages XD
SLB1904
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You guys are delusional
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Who knew acquisitions and mergers can be so sexy ..
rickybooby87
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That doesn't even begin to describe it. Some people here have been watching entirely too much Succession on HBO.
Some of my favorite hot takes:
Pre Phil's Tweet:
- PONIES ARE DOOMED
Post Phil Tweet:
- Sony is port begging!
- Phil is playing 4D Chess!
- He didn't say that, if he did say that, he didn't mean that, just because it means that, doesn't MEAN it means that.
- I perform M&A all the time!
- I am actually a legal contract expert for a big multi-billion dollar company and know how these things actually work.
- Phil is just saying what he needs to say to not rouse any suspicions from the SEC/FTC/ETC because they are actually too stupid to know otherwise.
The levels of copium were already pretty high with Activision being purchased, but now, that is almost matched with the amount of cope surrounding Phil's latest tweet.
The mental gymnastics on the interpretation of Phil's tweet:
(A chance on it not coming, lol. Holding out hope for that shut out, huh?)
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LordOfChaos
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Their stock already took a $20 Billion hit after the acquisition news:
Sony Stock Takes $20 Billion Hit After Microsoft Announces Activision Blizzard Acquisition - PlayStation LifeStyle
Sony stock dropped 13% after the announcement Microsoft will be acquiring Activision Blizzard. Here's why Sony lost $20 billion in value.www.playstationlifestyle.net
Stock reactions can be funny like that though, because gaming is about a third of the company, worth about 30 billion in revenue a year
https://www.statista.com/statistics/297533/sony-sales-worldwide-by-business-segment/
The discount would say the gaming segment would be devastated to 1/3rd of its last year run rate. Does that sound right? It doesn't really to me, especially where they at least "intend" to keep CoD on PS. The stock already seems to be recovering so it does seem like that was an overreaction to get in on.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Are you delusional?
He said we plan to keep COD (the franchise) on PS. That's as clear and conclusive as it gets.
He may absolutely change his mind after the deal closes. But his comments here are very clear.
I think the inference from Sony is there’s a contract with Activision, for which we don’t know how long, that secures release of call of duty titles on PlayStation for some period. I’m guessing it’s at least the next main release, potentially more however I don’t count on Microsoft being generous after that’s over.
HoofHearted
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Context - obviously?
SLB1904
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That's what people don't understand
Company like ms can't brake contract at will. Who the hell going trust them?
EverydayBeast
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Cross play is doing a great job, having to sacrifice years of working on cross play is a waste, it’s just the Microsoft fanboys that hope COD goes exclusive. Losing COD is going to be tough for Sony who is already struggling with multiplayer shooters.
SteelCurtain 59
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He said we "desire" to keep Call of Duty on Playstation. There will probably be stipulations involved that Sony may or may not agree to (Game Pass on Playstation, lower % of revenue cuts from Activision/Blizzard games sold on PS Store, etc.). He can' speak definitively (either way) about any major plans they have with this acquisition, because it hasn't happened yet and that would be literally illegal until it officially closes
ToTTenTranz
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Yes.
mckmas8808
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But Phil said something different after the Bethesda purchase.
Lognor
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And what is the "real tangible thing?" Your hopes and dreams?
ResilientBanana
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Phil is one of the more genuine leaders in the industry. I've never known him to be a creep or flat out lie about something important. Sure, he may not be always truthful about games in development, but there are NDAs that stop him from saying things, so he doesn't. But this is not one of those things.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Errr wut?!?... no!
He's already made definitive statements about honouring Acti's existing contractual obligations post-close.
Contracts often have early termination clauses. Just like you might want to leave your internet provider mid-contract, for example. You'll have to pay them off for the privilege, same in the corporate world. Really what he means is they will continue with whatever detail is in the contracts Sony has with Activision, rather than enacting those early termination clauses and paying Sony off.
This is precisely one of the reasons those clauses exist, no one would be lose trust in anyone.
Lognor
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But look at when he said that. Phil said that after the deal was finalized, not before. Let's wait until next year when the deal is finalized to see if that language changes. Remember, prior to the deal being completed Phil was very cryptic about their intent. Same here. Don't get your hopes up. It might be time to buy that Xbox.
yurinka
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Yes, they commit to keep ABK IPs on PS post acquisition not only on Twitter but also in the SEC filling because MS wants, same case as happened with Minecraft (mentioned as example, remember that the games Story Mode and Dungeons are on PS) and Zenimax where they kept the games there after acquisition, giving them updates, dlcs and sequels plus honoring pending exclusivity and marketing deals with Sony.
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porkchopexpress
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How about Call Of Duty Warzone 2?
Also IMO, "desire" = as a component of Gamepass for Playstation.
Also IMO, "desire" = as a component of Gamepass for Playstation.
SLB1904
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That's not what I said at all.
yurinka
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Adding ABK (including PS revenue) to MS gaming division they make less revenue than Sony's game divison. Users who buy each CoD are small percentage of the PS userbase, not even 10%. And 0% of the Nintendo one.
Even with ABK, MS isn't market leader on gaming, console, PC, mobile, game subscriptions or mobile. So obviously there is no monopoly concerns at all and will have no issue with antitrust/SEC/whatever regulators are in all countries.
Spencer said the wants to put as much ABK games on GP as they can, resurrect old ABK IP and to keep supporting existing ABK franchises on the other consoles where they already are, even mentioning specifically CoD and in the SEC highlighting Minecraft as example. Minecraft, which continues being updated on PS and got its next games Story Mode and Dungeons on PS.
These plans he mentioned are for when the acquisition gets completed, not before because he can't affect what ABK does until the acquisition is closed.
He said CoD, so he meant the series. In the SEC filling they talk that want too keep supporting the existing franchises on the platforms they are and that want to bring them to more platforms, not to less. They mentioned Minecraft as example in the SEC filling. With Minecraft they don't only keep supporting their main game with updates, but also released -years after the acquisition- the new console games of the IP on PS and Switch.
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Topher
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Yeah, but in the case of Bethesda Microsoft was buying a private company. Now we are talking about buying a publicly trade corporation. He cannot legally make false statements here at all.
No idea why you think my "hopes" are anything here. I have no personal interest in playing Call of Duty and I've owned Xbox Series X for a while now.
twilo99
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MS should trade COD for Spiderman. Make Spiderman multiplatform again
Isn't spiderman for for like kids and stuff?
SLB1904
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Yet grown ass man won't stop begging. Go figure.
sircaw
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looks like Scot Mctominay from man utd.
Papacheeks
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Cross play is doing a great job, having to sacrifice years of working on cross play is a waste, it’s just the Microsoft fanboys that hope COD goes exclusive. Losing COD is going to be tough for Sony who is already struggling with multiplayer shooters.
Sony was fine without online in PS2 era, and when Microsoft was kicking the shit out of them during 360 era all shooters were primarily bought on XBox, yet PS3 clawed its way back to relevancy with First Party games?
I see no different. That and Deviation Games is working on exclusive shooter for Sony and those are all ex COD developers from Black ops 2, MW3 ect.
Gone
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Not if you only play CoD and Fifa with your friends.
ChuckeRearmed
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And Cod is a military shooter when Playstation supposed to protect the children
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