GHG
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Honestly, this sounds really stupid.
They paid a studio more than half than the whole Activision?
Honestly, this sounds really stupid.
They paid a studio more than half than the whole Activision?
Talent vs IPs.Bungie was valued at 2 billion recently, Sony paid nearly double, its a very bad deal.
70b / 2 = 35b = 3.6b lolHonestly, this sounds really stupid.
They paid a studio more than half than the whole Activision?
Yeah, it's a mystery to the difference. I still can't see it being off by close to 70% (280k going down to 70k)Warmind uses Bungie’s API.
And Steam API is not open anymore like in the past… SteamDB changed due that.
Not sure if this will ever happen. Both said that plan to continue supporting the other consoles in the future.Both COD and Bungies next game will be pc and respective platform exclusive. Once one is announced exclusive the other will just shrug their shoulders and reciprocate.
They specified that by multiplat they mean to continue releasing current and future games in non-Sony consoles. They also mentioned Bungie will stand as separate, multiplatform, independent from PS Studios publisher under SIE with full creatitve freedom.Maybe by multiplat they mean PC and PS5 outside of Destiny 2 etc
A PSV2 game made by Bungie would be cool tho
The half of Zenimax (which includes Bethesda and others), not Activision Blizzard King.Honestly, this sounds really stupid.
They paid a studio more than half than the whole Activision?
People are sleeping on the real potential. The talent, and manpower.
That is because I am fucking ignoring it.Is almost as if you are willfully ignoring what is written in plain text for all to see.
What part of this are you struggling with?
Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives?
No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community.
I like this from Sony, going straight were Microsoft are too scared to.
Buying someone to complete their own portfolio, not to remove it from somewhere else.
Phil himself basically said what i posted in an interview a few months ago. Plus from what i understand Xclud isnt available on everything yet, and you need Gamepass Ultimate anyway, and i would 'guess' that standard Gamepass subscriptions vastly outnumber Ultimate subs.Game Pass is not just a game download service. It offers cloud gaming functionality as well. So no, they are not totally dependent on hardware sales.
I'm not sure where anyone got that revenue number from. As far as I know they have not publicly stated any revenue numbers. Also if their revenue is 2 billion and they sold for only 3.6 billion then their profit and growth numbers have to look horrible. Here are some gaming valuations compared to Revenue:Someone mentioned it previously but Destiny revenue is like 2B, roughly half Zenimax revenue.
It’s like the second largest shooter franchise next to CoD
So yeah, it’s a huge property. That’s what you’re paying for, future revenue streams.
Studio size isn’t the relative metric. If you want to buy studios, Zenimax makes sense. If you want to buy a massive FPS and GaaS company buy with less employees to manage, Bungie makes sense.
I feel like Bungie is going to be the centerpiece of all PlayStation GaaS / Community driven games, and that’s an area they are lacking. Microsoft wasn’t as jacking and especially not now after buying Activision
Needs to see what exactly StramDB tracks.Yeah, it's a mystery to the difference. I still can't see it being off by close to 70% (280k going down to 70m)
Right but it still doesnt have a game to sell so its not gonna be a console mover. Maybe they go exclusive content again but in a MP game, as we saw with Destiny already, that can divide the playerbase and just be a fuck up in the end.Destiny 2 is not exactly free to play.
It has a base game that can be free played (old content)… and that means nothing.
The last activities and content are still locked for these that brought the game/expansion/seasonpass.
That is because I am fucking ignoring it.
We can revisit this once Bungies next game is announced. Which will be multiplatform....... Playstation and PC
Yeah ok. Everyone saying the right things until the games actually get announced once the deals are finalized. We will seeNot sure if this will ever happen. Both said that plan to continue supporting the other consoles in the future.
I think everyones shit stinks with money hatting.Ok fair play that Sony isn't forcing exclusivity. But can we not act like they've never money hatted anything. Especially when were talking about destiny lol.
The game is sold on stores.Right but it still doesnt have a game to sell so its not gonna be a console mover. Maybe they go exclusive content again but in a MP game, as we saw with Destiny already, that can divide the playerbase and just be a fuck up in the end.
So i still think of it as a f2p title, one with paid content of course.
Yeah come on guys
Now is not the time to believe Lyin Jim Ryan
I remember a handsome tall guy, who said the same thinng.Not sure if this will ever happen. Both said that plan to continue supporting the other consoles in the future.
And when it's not?That is because I am fucking ignoring it.
We can revisit this once Bungies next game is announced. Which will be multiplatform....... Playstation and PC
Sony must feel that their next MMO ( matter) which is still in the oven is going to be a winner and that alone would make them their money back if true.Why they Sony pay so much for Bungie? That’s the destiny franchise for 3.6 billion! Disney got Star Wars AND Indiana Jones for around that much.
I don't know if you are mocking me or not. I don't mind if you are lolYeah come on guys
Now is not the time to believe Lyin Jim Ryan
thats a tough oneYeah come on guys
Now is not the time to believe Lyin Jim Ryan
i doubt it was at youI don't know if you are mocking me or not. I don't mind if you are lol
Can you imagine Sony just letting Bungies next game arrive on Xbox day and date with all the trimmings? I just don't see it.
Isnt stock organic? So Sony spent organic stocks, to buy the company. Unlike MS, who spent cash.
Bungie signed a deal with MS for Halo and gave MS the IP.Then why are you trying to correct people? You clearly don't understand Bungie, their history, or how IPs are handled.
Bungie have never signed a deal for their IP once in their history. Today, Bungie confirmed in full that not only would they continue to independently publish their games, but their next un-announced game won't be a PlayStation exclusive at all. This reads like a typical Bungie deal to me, meaning Sony didn't buy their IPs.
Smart deal actually.So Sony bought them for 3.6 billion yet Bungie can do whatever they want and put new games on any platform they want wtf kind of deal is that
When it's day and date on Xbox, like all Microsofts new I.Ps are on Sony, I will then come back and eat some crow.And when it's not?
I mean it's pretty much not already, but when you officially hold the xbox game in your hand?
I don't know if you are mocking me or not. I don't mind if you are lol
Can you imagine Sony just letting Bungies next game arrive on Xbox day and date with all the trimmings? I just don't see it.
Is "Halo on Playstation" a meme on Twitter etc or do people really think it's the case?
So Sony bought them for 3.6 billion yet Bungie can do whatever they want and put new games on any platform they want wtf kind of deal is that
Talent vs IPs.
Look at insomniac purchase. That talent gave them a powerhouse.
Bungie would be a powerhouse for Sony. Same as how Bethesda would be a powerhouse for MS.
IPs are worthless, If you arent working on them.
Sony made 2 new big IPs this gen. Horizon and Ghost of tsushima. Talents will give them IPs like those.
Even Housemarque made returnal.
Great for Sony and them boosting their multiplayer output. After Destiny though, I can’t say I’m particularly interested in anything they put out moving forward, especially if it’s
Man killzone 2 pre patch was the shits!!! I can only imagine what they’re capable of pulling off with that game now and not submitting to the crybabies about player movement when it was on point to begin with!The question is - what studio more at the forefront of gamers' minds could Sony have gotten for a relatively reasonable price? What Sony wants is a flagship FPS studio to compete with CoD/Halo, and Bungie fits the bill.
Yeah, it's a mystery to the difference. I still can't see it being off by close to 70% (280k going down to 70k)
Is it really? spend 3.6 billion and yet Bungie still have total control does sony even own the Destiny IP now if not that a horrible dealSmart deal actually.
Other dumb companies can fund them.
Ah yes, someone else who doesn’t know how to read, maybe try and read the article and understand why this purchase was made, they literally tell you what their plans are going forward and this has nothing to do with keeping bungie games as exclusives to PS platforms, rather they want more revenue streams going forward.Microsoft didn’t overpay for anything, they underpaid for a company down in value and only paid market price without a premium compared to what it was trading at before the public outcry, they got a bargain.
‘Future Bungie releases to remain multiplatform as well.’
If Sony thinks this is a bartering chip for CoD I’ve got news for you son
This get makes zero sense and is overpriced as fuck, I guess when nothings available you do what you need to do to look like you’re not doing nothing.
You might want to go read their website and what they say about their future games.
If it wants to die.leaves nintendo, joins stadia
Is it really? spend 3.6 billion and yet Bungie still have total control does sony even own the Destiny IP now if not that a horrible deal
Sony owns the IP. Since they own bungie.Is it really? spend 3.6 billion and yet Bungie still have total control does sony even own the Destiny IP now if not that a horrible deal
Devs are gonna start leaving and making more studios of the games we all want or new IPs! This is how I feel we get more studios out of acquisitions like this.Agreed. But it wouldn't surprise me if MS did choose to leave CoD $70 on PS and pick around the edges more for exclusive content. "Free" vs. $70 is a compelling advantage alone, plus, once you get past the existing Sony contracts it won't be Xbox missing modes and DLC content. Some of these acquisitions are about protecting content vs. 100% exclusives, IMO. Xbox can never lose CoD now, and should things move in a more streaming focused future, MS's service will have CoD when no others would.
With that said though, Activision is painting a picture that definitely leaves room for exclusives. Especially after Activision responded with a list of specific titles rather than a blanket statement when questioned about the future of CoD.
You better be right cause the more i read bout this deal the worst it seem for Sony that 3.6 billion could be better spent elsewhereNo. It's the same with Microsoft. The subsidiaries own the IPs.