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Bloomberg: Sony to reveal Spartacus next week
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kyliethicc
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Pretty sure that's just an Elden Ring joke
Draugoth
Gold Member
Double meaning perphaps? lol
kyliethicc
Member
Doubt it. Its just a corporate approved "funny" tweep
ManaByte
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Barakov
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yurinka
Member
In addition to the demos it would include PS Plus and PS Now, which now in theory would receive way more games.
At 15 a month for some demos they must be
yurinka
Member
They are not sacrificing anything. Their brand is stronger than ever. They are making more revenue than any other console platform holder in gaming history and more profit than they ever did. They are selling more consoles, more games and more subcriptions than ever did (in fact they sell way more game subscriptions than any other platform holder), they have been breaking gaming history records even in social media and winning awards. They have 111MAU, which is the biggest amount of active userbase ever reported by a console platform holder.
If they don't sell more consoles is because of the chips shortage, because every time they ship a new batch of consoles they get sold out in minutes.
Platform agnostic game streaming of old games is something they have been doing since 2014 as a minor secondary side business and will continue being a minor secondary side business for them. There is no other cloud gaming service that reported to have a bigger user base than PS Now. Game subscriptions (adding PS Plus) make them almost a $1B/quarter (and growing), but PS makes like (not counting mobile games) $25B/year. Spartacus will bump their subscriptions revenue but it will continue being a minor part of their business and they know it.
They are only merging Plus and Now into a multi tiered single service, adding some extra games but mostly old games, the demos and that intermediate base GamePass-like tier. Basically exactly the same they already have but with some tweaks for the next gen. No big change. They won't give away AAA games day one as MS does, Sony prefers to have a profitable business instead.
P.S.: According to Bloomberg it won't feature PS5 games at launch, will feature them later. I assume they want to wait at least 2 years since their release before including them on subscriptions.
The highest tier is supposed to include PS Plus, PS Now (now with even more hundreds of games) and the demos. The lowest tier is supposed to be the current PS Plus. The intermediate tier is supposed to be PS Plus + a lot of downloadable games (I assume the downloadable games from PS Now).
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Dee Dah Dave
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Can’t see them matching Xbox with the day one 1st parties. But as long as they get some good stuff on the regular, it should be fine.
MasterCornholio
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If it’s a tease for something I don’t think it’s for an acquisition of From Software. Basically Elden Ring is all the rage right now so they are doing that to get some attention.
3liteDragon
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Lol, there’s a reason a few are tryna hype this up as a Game Pass competitor knowing what Jimbo already said about doing a Game Pass-like model. This is nothing like GP, don’t really give a fuck about this either way.
Just keep that steady high-quality first-party output & we’re good.
Just keep that steady high-quality first-party output & we’re good.
MasterCornholio
Member
What people should ask is if Sony is hyping this up to be a Gamepass competitor. So far I haven’t seen them indicate that they want to do that. I guess we have to wait and see what happens with the reveal.
remember_spinal
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ManaByte
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Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Considering it's Sony, I'm leaning towards complete catastrophe. Though my recently renewed ps+ subscription would love to be proved wrong.
remember_spinal
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Orutisu Furio
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Unlikely to have new PlayStation studios games day 1 release and will likely be on a 6 to 9 month delay akin to EA Play or something similar. Sony really wants to you pay $70 for their new games day 1.
Swift_Star
Banned
What a disconnection to reality this is.
Swift_Star
Banned
what? The current subscribers will be moved to the tier that corresponds to current PS Plus. This is not rocket science.
What this is from you people is actually: CONCERN
Hobbygaming
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I'm also hoping it's nothing like GP. I don't like how much MS talks about GP these days I'd rather just see more from their studios
Kagey K
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That's awesome and I hope it stays that way.
I like MS on the back foot, as it's benefitted me as a consumer.
I hope it stays that way.
We really need you Playstation fans to roll up your sleeves and show MS who's boss.
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StealthGoblin
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They should definitely do a collections tab where you can see, download or play every game in a series. MGS games? Yes please.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Again, this is not a Gamepass competitor. From Sony's business and financial perspective, it doesn't make sense to follow a business model that has yet to be proven truly self-sustainable and profitable. It is just not logical for business execs to replicate a (very wealthy) competitor's strategy that hasn't really taken off even after 5 years.
Sony is just combining PS+ and PS Now. If they can increase the quantity and quality of third-party games without increasing the combined price, that's more than good enough. A cherry on the top would be 10-20% discount on pre-ordering first-party games.
Sony is just combining PS+ and PS Now. If they can increase the quantity and quality of third-party games without increasing the combined price, that's more than good enough. A cherry on the top would be 10-20% discount on pre-ordering first-party games.
Just wait ! What if Netflix or Spotify waited
trying something new is always paired with investing money , in the long run if your plan is sound its gonna bring you a lot .Waiting isn’t a way forward .
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Darlingcognito
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It'll be as half assed as PSNow and more expensive.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
You do realize that Sony has 2x subscribers than Gamepass, right?Just wait ! What if Netflix or Spotify waited
If they want to change their strategy, they can literally do it in one day. An announcement that all PS first-party games many other third-party games would be available on PS+ day one at launch: and they have a Gamepass competitor already sitting at 50 million paying subscribers. It's not like they will be building anything from scratch with 0 subscribers in the beginning.
gametimedecision
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Spartacus is gonna be pretty underwhelming and yet…it’s gonna eclipse gamepass and it’s so tragic. I wish Microsoft was smarter about this…the most loyal fans of anything in media are PlayStation fans, they are about to double the gamepass subscriptions in 2 months and it’s unfortunate.
I hope this gets Microsoft to do even more.
I hope this gets Microsoft to do even more.
They can do it in 1 day
they probably can’t , because of infrastructure problems , don’t kid yourself .
sankt-Antonio
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They using Azure services, maybe more like 1hour.They can do it in 1 day
Wait until they raise the price of current PS+ tier equivalent
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Bernd Lauert
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This is decidedly worse than Gamepass, and the media will keep comparing Spartacus and Gamepass. Let's see how it plays out.
gametimedecision
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Lol it’s gonna play out with the market that has 3 times the player base winning, regardless of quality.
gametimedecision
Member
It is exactly what will happen in the beginning and it will be interesting to see the evolution of both subscriptions.
It has logic and, as you say, the great advantage of Sony is the great number of faithful followers that they has throughout the world, receptive to buying anything that comes from them. And I add to this, the majority support of the media and press and that fear they have of entering Sony's blacklist.
It will as easy to see people who said they were against subscription services and support Sony for not having an answer to Gamepass embracing Spartacus day one and convincing you that "it's not the same but it's better"..... as seeing media articles of all kinds "advertising" the benefits of Spartacus against Gamepass as a negative reference in some way. You will get to see the press giving more visibility to demos of a few hours in Spartacus than to the full game in GP.
I have no doubt that Spartacus will be a success for that reason. And I have no doubt that in this Spartacus vs Gamepass competition the user will be the winner. In fact I think MS will respond with some announcements for gamepass in response and it remains to be seen the evolution of both subscription services.
Panajev2001a
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At least your mind is not made up against Spartacus and you do not seem to have a victim complex going for your favourite brand. Great to see Spartacus/PSN/PS have no real credits but faith from the followers (like a cult) and the fourth column of the press which is all biased for Sony and kept in line with fear (especially the notoriously Pro Sony U.S. press
).Maybe you should apply there for a job, 1 hour man
create the software stack, the logic for azure .. you will be a millionaire in a day ..
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ToadMan
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Yeah I remember… they quietly died off.
I don’t mind the idea of full game trial periods - but I’m not keen on paying for that service when it’s essentially marketing a game to me for a full price purchase.
But if there is a discount associated with buying a full game I’ve trialled, then maybe that’s ok depending on the discount.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
What additional infrastructure would they need to release first-party games on a service? What infrastructure did they need when they release Destruction All Stars on PS+ last year? They can make games downloadable only and literally pivot their strategy whenever they want to.They can do it in 1 day
Coming up with stuff is easy .. but most work goes into creating that vision, why haven’t they launched something already .. if it’s so easy . GP is running 4 years now . Why do you think they partnered with MS for azure ? I am not convinced.
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Jemm
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Technically Game Pass just grants you a license to play the game you download normally from the existing MS Store. Only xCloud streaming requires additional infra, but otherwise it's mostly the same.
StealthGoblin
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One part of this I think is clever is they’ve made themselves immune to Microsoft dropping XBL Gold. If that happens, they just shift everyone up from PS essential to PS+ extra.
This isn’t a whole new service, it’s an improvement of the current one. They should be able to transition people over to this quite easily, but they will need some big games added to this fairly regularly (both day one and soon after).
This isn’t a whole new service, it’s an improvement of the current one. They should be able to transition people over to this quite easily, but they will need some big games added to this fairly regularly (both day one and soon after).
Hobbygaming
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Isn't Netflix still like 15 billion in debt?Just wait ! What if Netflix or Spotify waited
Waiting isn’t a way forward .
You need to do all kinds of stuff .. having first , second and 3rd party suppprt and talks .. tools, programs , infra, marketing etc etc
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Do you understand long term? Spotify was also for the longest term .. 10 years plus .Isn't Netflix still like 15 billion in debt?
At least what I have is both consoles and what I want is for Sony to have a service just like Gamepass because that's what benefits me as a user..... That first.At least your mind is not made up against Spartacus and you do not seem to have a victim complex going for your favourite brand. Great to see Spartacus/PSN/PS have no real credits but faith from the followers (like a cult) and the fourth column of the press which is all biased for Sony and kept in line with fear (especially the notoriously Pro Sony U.S. press
Second. You are kidding yourself if you deny that a large part of Sony's strength (no one doubts that it is their well-earned credit) is to have a much larger base than XBOX of loyal and receptive users to embrace any business model with Playstation seal. I don't think there is any doubt that Spartacus is going to be a success from the start (its evolution is another matter) because of that fact and you can already see the examples a full of references on internet
The issue of the media is also linked to the fact that Sony has the largest and most loyal community (I repeat so you don't rave) earned through the years. The reality tells you that a majority of the media and press have a strong tendency to Playstation. First because most of its readers are PS users and second (you may or may not agree) that a strong fear has been imposed among the press to enter the famous Sony blacklist. And we see examples of this every day and this beginning of the generation the double standard has been quite evident. You will have very very difficult to see articles that discuss the proposal of Spartacus and very easy to see articles in the opposite direction and 3 times greater visibility than Gamepass
What is reflected in such a thing? From the first, Spartacus is already spoken of as the ""Playstation Gamepass"" and that is in Sony's interest for it to happen, even though the four cats on the forums know that it is not.
In the end, the reality is that there is nothing in what I say that someone does not know. The rest is wanting to deny that reality.
DJ12
Member
You mean still being the most popular subscription service currently in gaming?
Yeah, no traction.