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[kingfey]

I think I get your point that for example with GP you could activate it once every x months to catch up on the service and not sub all the time if you’re only interested in specific games. In that case you’d pay less in the end. I wouldn’t do that but it’s not necessarily a bad idea.

The only thing is, as long as you can buy a 1-year XBLG card for €54 and convert it (and that’s the Amazon price, you can go even cheaper with resellers) you’d need to use the monthly GPU sub only once every 4 months to break even, which isn’t super worth it.

The idea isn't that you will need to spend that money at once.

Everyone can basically afford $15.
People get paid every month. So you have that $15 ready.

That $15 won't leave a dent on your money.

But the more you spend at once, the more you will notice the dent on your budget.

For example, if I earn 2k a month, that $120-$180 would be hurt that budget. But $15 leaving won't have that much impact.

You can save that $120-$180. But your priority won't be spending on gaming. Because people who earn that much money, have bigger things to worry.

Monthly prices makes more sense.

You can say, that it will cost alot in the longer run. But it won't affect their budget that much.

$120-$180 will harm the budget, at the expense of savings. $15 will save the budget, at the cost of being expensive in the long run.

People will go with the ladder. Since it allows them, to save money right now, and spend in important matters.

 

[systemr123]

The idea isn't that you will need to spend that money at once.

Everyone can basically afford $15.
People get paid every month. So you have that $15 ready.

That $15 won't leave a dent on your money.

But the more you spend at once, the more you will notice the dent on your budget.

For example, if I earn 2k a month, that $120-$180 would be hurt that budget. But $15 leaving won't have that much impact.

You can save that $120-$180. But your priority won't be spending on gaming. Because people who earn that much money, have bigger things to worry.

Monthly prices makes more sense.

You can say, that it will cost alot in the longer run. But it won't affect their budget that much.

$120-$180 will harm the budget, at the expense of savings. $15 will save the budget, at the cost of being expensive in the long run.

People will go with the ladder. Since it allows them, to save money right now, and spend in important matters.

Spending more money in the end is always the bad choice, and yes, people do make bad choices to get instant satisfaction. Now, it could be possibly morally worth it to pay monthly for some people, but it’s not to save money, as you say yourself, you pay more in the end. Also, a lot of people that do monthly subs forget about having them and canceling them every month which also makes it more expensive in the end, even though logically paying 7 months of usage in a year is cheaper than the year sub.

 

[On Demand]

Bruh this picture is not accurate at all lol.

Just for starters, there's more than just TWO original Xbox games on the service lol.

The rest I'm not even gonna bother going into.

This is over a year old and not a single number is correct lol.

Whatever variance there is in the amount of games leaving and entering the service....the point still stands.

 

[adamsapple]

Whatever variance there is in the amount of games leaving and entering the service....the point still stands.

Sure, games enter and leave, but your image is still severely outdated and not accurate.

Game Pass News | Track All Games on Xbox Game Pass

We keep you informed on all things Xbox Game Pass. Up to date Console List, PC List, Cloud List and many more!

gamepasscounter.com

As of the above website, there are 498 unique games on game pass right now, and if we start counting different skus as different versions (eg Halo on PC and Xbox as separate) it goes over 1000.

Anyway, at this point it's completely speculative to expect if PS Now will rotate games in and out as well, conventional wisdom says yes.

 

[Chukhopops]

Whatever variance there is in the amount of games leaving and entering the service....the point still stands.

The point being what exactly? PSNow only has more games available if you include streaming, GP has more otherwise. They are more recent, better rated and have less duplication inside a series (like PSNow having 3 Guilty Gear and 5 Blazblue games).

 

[Calverz]

Behave. There’s a difference between a one off payment of 40 quid v 120 quid.

As things get pricier, monthly is more manageable, even if you end up paying more for the year.

Or are we meant to be pretending we are all rich gamers with megabucks disposable income?

Exactly.

 

[Calverz]

Gaming is a luxury. Why are you pretending we all paupers scraping up pennies to buy gaming services. See? That argument works both ways.

Behave yourself.



I read all of it. You went off course because you didn't like the facts being presented.

So your biggest defence of the whole thing is that the yearly £100 payment is cheaper than Xbox. And you use examples of people paying £40 to back your argument.

Do you see how idiotic you are yet?

 

[SSfox]

I'm getting tired with all those subs bullshits, the only reason i still sub PS+ is to play fighting games online (and Red Dead Online, but since sometimes Rockstar abandoned this game),and still no idea how BC is gonna work? can i just buy and download the classic game i want without being forced into their sub service thing? Or what?

Maybe it's time to switch to PC.

 

[kingfey]

I'm getting tired with all those subs bullshits, the only reason i still sub PS+ is to play fighting games online (and Red Dead Online, but since sometimes Rockstar abandoned this game),and still no idea how BC is gonna work? can i just buy and download the classic game i want without being forced into their sub service thing? Or what?

Maybe it's time to switch to PC.

You can join us.

But you will need to follow strict rules.

1: you must download every mod you can.
2: console players are out Eternity enemy. You must cut ties to your console friends.
3: Lord Gabe is the true lord of gaming. Nothing can come close to his status.

If you swear on these rules, you will be welcomed in a big arms. If not, you will exiled, and not allowed to join PCMR.

/s

 

[SSfox]

1: you must download every mod you can.

Harada is gonna be pissed tho.

 

[PropellerEar]

So your biggest defence of the whole thing is that the yearly £100 payment is cheaper than Xbox. And you use examples of people paying £40 to back your argument.

Do you see how idiotic you are yet?

Numbers don't lie, cheaper is cheaper.
40 is less than 60.
120 is less than 180.

Superior intelligence at play here with cute insults and BS arguments.

 

[kingfey]

Harada is gonna be pissed tho.

One must learn the dark power, to achieve greatness. And that means, you must betray your master.
Harada must be betrayed, to achieve that power.

 

[Swift_Star]

Behave. There’s a difference between a one off payment of 40 quid v 120 quid.

As things get pricier, monthly is more manageable, even if you end up paying more for the year.

Or are we meant to be pretending we are all rich gamers with megabucks disposable income?

This is really bad advice. Pay stuff in installments even if it has interest because is more Manageable. You know you’re paying interest, right?

 

[Lognor]

You are wrong on all counts.

If that makes you feel special, good for you.

It's smarter. You are blindly following your corporate gods so if you could subscribe for 5 years at a time you would.

 

[Swift_Star]

Numbers don't lie, cheaper is cheaper.
40 is less than 60.
120 is less than 180.

Superior intelligence at play here with cute insults and BS arguments.

Yeah, the mental gymnastics of some to justify paying in installments with interest (that’s what paying monthly is: installments with interests) is really laughable. This is Not a house or a car, this is a $120 sub. It’s cheap no matter how hard you cry trying to spin otherwise. If you can’t afford $120 a year, you shouldn’t be able to afford $400 for a console anyway.

 

[Lognor]

Numbers don't lie, cheaper is cheaper.
40 is less than 60.
120 is less than 180.

Superior intelligence at play here with cute insults and BS arguments.

But sometimes cheaper is worse as is the case with ps+. It SHOULD be cheaper based on what you get. Game pass is a fantastic value and would still be a better value than ps+ if it was $100 more a year.

But maybe the good thing is that even though ps+ is pretty poor value, it might keep ms from increasing the cost of game pass. Even though gp is significantly better value already, it's poor optics. So thanks Sony, I guess?

 

[Swift_Star]

But sometimes cheaper is worse as is the case with ps+. It SHOULD be cheaper based on what you get. Game pass is a fantastic value and would still be a better value than ps+ if it was $100 more a year.

But maybe the good thing is that even though ps+ is pretty poor value, it might keep ms from increasing the cost of game pass. Even though gp is significantly better value already, it's poor optics. So thanks Sony, I guess

So now we’re moving goalposts from sub prices to “value”.
Sony can never win with these guys, the goalposts move all the time.
Still, 120<180.

 

[Lognor]

So now we’re moving goalposts from sub prices to “value”.
Sony can never win with these guys, the goalposts move all the time.
Still, 120<180.

Wtf
No one said 120 was more than 180. No one contested the price differences. What are you on about?

Sony wins with the cheapest sub. Congrats! No wait. Nintendo online is cheaper. Therefore Nintendo online is the best. That's how it works, right?

 

[kingfey]

Wtf
No one said 120 was more than 180. No one contested the price differences. What are you on about?

Sony wins with the cheapest sub. Congrats! No wait. Nintendo online is cheaper. Therefore Nintendo online is the best. That's how it works, right?

End it here.
You will waste your time with him.

 

[Swift_Star]

Wtf
No one said 120 was more than 180. No one contested the price differences. What are you on about?

Sony wins with the cheapest sub. Congrats! No wait. Nintendo online is cheaper. Therefore Nintendo online is the best. That's how it works, right?

We were talking gamepass prices vs ps+ prices, but go on and move the goalpost again.

 

[Lognor]

Folks have been saying for years now that game pass is the best value in gaming. That hasn't changed.

We were talking gamepass prices vs ps+ prices, but go on and move the goalpost again.

You win. Ps+ is cheaper on an annual basis. Congrats. You win!

 

[Swift_Star]

Folks have been saying for years now that game pass is the best value in gaming. That hasn't changed.

You win. Ps+ is cheaper on an annual basis. Congrats. You win!

Bad irony is bad. Try to keep up with the subject next time.

 

[BigLee74]

This is really bad advice. Pay stuff in installments even if it has interest because is more Manageable. You know you’re paying interest, right?

Strange. I didn’t give any advice, did I?

Regardless, welcome to the big bad world, kid!

 

[Swift_Star]

Strange. I didn’t give any advice, did I?

Regardless, welcome to the big bad world, kid!

I have enough money to pay stuff upfront.
I don’t know who taught economics and finance to you but good luck paying interests to corporations and banks and losing money.

 

[Topher]

So your biggest defence of the whole thing is that the yearly £100 payment is cheaper than Xbox. And you use examples of people paying £40 to back your argument.

The example was to show you that given a choice people will choose the annual option. Hell, Microsoft knows this as well and that's why they don't offer the choice when it comes to GP. Either way, my example proves my point a hell of a lot more than yours which is absolutely nothing. But if you want to continue believing this idea that people would rather pay $60 more a year to pay monthly then we will just have to disagree.

Do you see how idiotic you are yet?

 

[BigLee74]

I have enough money to pay stuff upfront.
I don’t know who taught economics and finance to you but good luck paying interests to corporations and banks and losing money.

 

[Swift_Star]

I am the naive one while you pay stuff in installments which contain interests therefore you’re paying more? Ok.

 

[kingfey]

The example was to show you that given a choice people will choose the annual option. Hell, Microsoft knows this as well and that's why they don't offer the choice when it comes to GP. Either way, my example proves my point a hell of a lot more than yours which is absolutely nothing. But if you want to continue believing this idea that people would rather pay $60 a year to pay monthly then we will just have to disagree.

As expected. You know what they say. If you fail to win an argument, get something that is outside of the topic, to win the argument.

The thing you posted is for yearly school, and work related activities. Its cheaper, which costs $70. The same price you pay for day1 games.

FYI: MS cant make gamepass yearly payment, because the entire package cost $360 for ultimate. $180 is the final deal. But I guess, you dont care about that.

 

[Swift_Star]

As expected. You know what they say. If you fail to win an argument, get something that is outside of the topic, to win the argument.

The thing you posted is for yearly school, and work related activities. Its cheaper, which costs $70. The same price you pay for day1 games.

FYI: MS cant make gamepass yearly payment, because the entire package cost $360 for ultimate. $180 is the final deal. But I guess, you dont care about that.

So MS has infinite money but suddenly they can’t make a discounted annual plan for GP?

 

[kingfey]

So MS has infinite money but suddenly they can’t make a discounted annual plan for GP?

How idiot do you have to be, to reach this conclusion?

The entire package costs $360.
GP pc=$120
GP xbox=$120
Xbox live gold=$60 yearly.
Xbox EA play=$30 yearly
PC EA play=$30 yearly
Xcloud=?

Total=$360

GP Ultimate=$15 a month. Total=$180

360-180=$180

Essentially, You are paying half of what gamepass ultimate should cost.

But you do you buddy.

 

[bender]

Maybe it's time to switch to PC.

You'll need a time machine to go along with the PC so you can go back to the glory days.

 

[kingpotato]

Sorry if someone already shared this graphic, I didn't see it earlier in the thread.

 

[Swift_Star]

How idiot do you have to be, to reach this conclusion?

The entire package costs $360.
GP pc=$120
GP xbox=$120
Xbox live gold=$60 yearly.
Xbox EA play=$30 yearly
PC EA play=$30 yearly
Xcloud=?

Total=$360

GP Ultimate=$15 a month. Total=$180

360-180=$180

Essentially, You are paying half of what gamepass ultimate should cost.

But you do you buddy.

Sure, Jan.
You’re counting Xbox pc, console and live in this count which makes no sense.
Again with the mental gymnastics.

 

[kingfey]

Sure, Jan.

Gz on the comeback

 

[The Alien]

Be nice to see a listing of the games offered in Sony's offering.

We know they won't be releasing Day 1, but not knowing an estimated window doesn't help gauge.

 

[Topher]

As expected. You know what they say. If you fail to win an argument, get something that is outside of the topic, to win the argument.

The thing you posted is for yearly school, and work related activities. Its cheaper, which costs $70. The same price you pay for day1 games.

FYI: MS cant make gamepass yearly payment, because the entire package cost $360 for ultimate. $180 is the final deal. But I guess, you dont care about that.

GPU was built up on top of GP as an incentive for XLG members. PC Game Pass was an easy throw in as it is since PC gamers are obviously not buying it. Trying to reframe this as package that folks were buying separately and MS offered them combo deal is disingenuous at best. A for effort though.

 

[Swift_Star]

GPU was built up on top of GP as an incentive for XLG members. PC Game Pass was an easy throw in as it is since PC gamers are obviously not buying it. Trying to reframe this as package that folks were buying separately and MS offered them combo deal is disingenuous at best. A for effort though.

That’s what he’s doing. He’s summing the cost of everything to make a point… which makes no sense.

 

[Lognor]

I have enough money to pay stuff upfront.
I don’t know who taught economics and finance to you but good luck paying interests to corporations and banks and losing money.

And I have enough money to pay month to month, even if that works out to a slightly higher amount. I love the flexibility. When you have means you can enjoy flexibility, even if it comes at a higher price.

 

[Shmunter]

Does the ps5 digital with Sony pass take the lead as best value in gaming?

 

[Lognor]

Does the ps5 digital with Sony pass take the lead as best value in gaming?

The fact that you have to ask kind of answers that question!

 

[kingfey]

GPU was built up on top of GP as an incentive for XLG members. PC Game Pass was an easy throw in as it is since PC gamers are obviously not buying it. Trying to reframe this as package that folks were buying separately and MS offered them combo deal is disingenuous at best. A for effort though.

Bravo. you did good at downplaying it very well 10/10.

 

[Topher]

Bravo. you did good at downplaying it very well 10/10.

Gz on the comeback

 

[A Most Virtuous Cat]

Access to older games is not a fair comparison. GP allows for emulation and download, while Sony provides ps3 cloud streaming

 

[kingfey]

Gz on the comeback

At least, I dont try to hide my ignorance. Especially from someone, who clearly considers ps+ premium $120 yearly a better savings.
Anyway, enjoy with your great downplay tactics. Its getting better.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

They could. But individual subscription makes alot of money for them, if they are paying separately. Not to mention they get more users that way.

Though it's scummy move. I would love this feature to be included.

Looks like Gamepass is going to have a family options similar to Netflix -

According to trusted sources familiar with Microsoft's efforts, we can now confirm that Xbox is moving ahead with an Xbox Game Pass Family Plan, which could be set to launch sometime this year.

From our information, paying on a higher tier for an Xbox Game Pass Family Plan will net access for five players for games across the entire library, and will be far cheaper than paying for five separate XGP accounts as is necessary today. Utilizing Microsoft's Family Account system already in use for Office 365, players within the same country will be able to play together using a single XGP subscription managed by a central account holder, in much the same way as Netflix.

I'll be upgrading for sure.

 

[kingfey]

Looks like Gamepass is going to have a family options similar to Netflix -





I'll be upgrading for sure.

I will do the same for my brother too.

 

[Topher]

At least, I dont try to hide my ignorance. Especially from someone, who clearly considers ps+ premium $120 yearly a better savings.

I said annual options are a better savings than paying monthly. That is factually true.

 

[Shmunter]

The fact that you have to ask kind of answers that question!

So a yes!?!

 

[Swift_Star]

At least, I dont try to hide my ignorance. Especially from someone, who clearly considers ps+ premium $120 yearly a better savings.
Anyway, enjoy with your great downplay tactics. Its getting better.

Amazing that you’re virtually saying you rather pay monthly with interests than annually, with a discount.
If GP was $120 yearly with an upfront payment would you really rather pay monthly up to $180? I know you’re going to say yes because it would contradict everything you said up to now but it’s not a good look.

 

[kingfey]

I said annual options are a better savings than paying monthly. That is factually true.

Nothing wrong with that.
But when you look at the 2 services, paying annually looks worse, especially when you dissect it, bits by bits.

They could have added some other 3rd party deals like Ubisoft. Just like how xbox has EA play.

We will see what the games would be. I myself would like to try some ps2 games. Never had that chance in my life.