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Starfield - Official Gameplay Trailer Reveal (2023)
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Well you just used the word "Dull" which is an opinion. Some people find searching a massive map for some "collectible" dull, others don't for instance... to person who finds it dull, this "repeated' thing feels.. well.."repetitive".. to the other person, that "repeated" thing is fun. Games are constantly throwing objective repetition at us, but each individual still feels a different level of enjoyment depending on what aspects of a game they like.
For some the scale/scope instantly adds something to a game.. as they just enjoy the feeling of exploring something vast, even if the "vast' majority of it is not hand-crafted.
They are probably going to go with a ton of "procedurally generated" alien animals for instance that are different levels of hostile, procedurally generated biomes and whatnot. That does not excite me at all, but it makes my wife's gamer panties wet for instance. Objectively something like that can say it's not "repetition" because there might be 1000 different animal species... to me.. it doesn't matter how many animal species there are, it'll likely feel dull/repetitive to me.
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I am even more hyped for this game after the presentation yesterday. I think the game looks amazing for an RPG of this scale, scope and all the variables and choices usually found in a Bethesda RPG. About the only thing I can see that needs improvement is the frame rate and I'm sure that is one of the things that will be worked out over the next year.
I see certain people worrying about the 1000 planets but I'm hoping some of them will offer opportunities for hidden quests and Bethesda's always interesting random encounters.
You know it was an awesome presentation by the amount of salt a certain group of people are dumping into this thread. It's both hilarious and pathetic at the same time the desperate lengths some of the Sony Fanboys go to in this and other threads in an effort to criticize and downplay this game.
I see certain people worrying about the 1000 planets but I'm hoping some of them will offer opportunities for hidden quests and Bethesda's always interesting random encounters.
17 pages and counting.
By the time this thread dies down we'll have a mount everest of salt.
You know it was an awesome presentation by the amount of salt a certain group of people are dumping into this thread. It's both hilarious and pathetic at the same time the desperate lengths some of the Sony Fanboys go to in this and other threads in an effort to criticize and downplay this game.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I don't want to run out of stuff to explore before I'm done, so yeah we do. This is an adventure game. I want to be on an adventure the whole time.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The part of the demo that bugged me the most...Does this AI just get triggered based on player proximity and not sight/sound or am I seeing things wrong?
Gudji
Member
We don't need 1000 planets but Todd does.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
TLOU pic is a promotional shot. GOW pic is realtime from a cutscene. I played that game recently. It's during his talk with Hephastus right after he bangs his wife Afroditi.
Character models are a big upgrade over Fallout 4 like I pointed out a few pages ago, but comparing a 2010 linear game to a 2023 open world game on a console two gens ahead isnt trolling. you all need to take a deep breath and quit it with the trolling accusations. Thanks to the massive vram upgrade from the PS360 to PS4X1 era, open world games got a massive boost in character rendering even last gen. Some of the best looking games last gen were open world. RDR2, Death Stranding, HFW, Days Gone, Halo Infinite, Ghost of Tsushima, Batman Arkham Knight all have fantastic looking character models despite being last gen and open world. They will have even better looking game character models next gen. Matrix is a massive open world city with advanced traffic, pedestrian and other chaos destruction simulations, and the character models in cutscenes look photorealistic. Gone are the days where open worlds held back games.
This is just a bethesda issue. They have never been a visual powerhouse. Their expertise lie in underlying systems, massive open worlds, and side quests. Looking at the huge upgrade in vistas, it's clear that they are prioritizing the open world visual fidelity over character rendering and there is nothing wrong with that. Plenty of other studios do this. Ass Creed, Watch Dogs, Far Cry, and even Cyberpunk 2077 which is probably the best looking game on PC has some very bad NPC character models relative to its overall world rendering.
It would be nice to get an upgrade in ALL aspects of the game including the character models but when the game looks this good im not gonna lose any sleep over it. However, Im not gonna dismiss criticism of character model fidelity either.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
They booth open world. The NPC don't look good for a next gen only open world game, deal with it - or don't. Won't change that NPC are not great looking.
ResilientBanana
Member
People in this thread do not truly understand the vast scope and scale of this game and complain about mediocre issues.
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Punished Miku
Member
With 1000 planets, you just know that one of them is going to be a far future version of Tamriel. No one even knows what planet that is called.
Deep in some cave it'll have The Elder Scroll Vol. XX. Shared universe confirmed.
Deep in some cave it'll have The Elder Scroll Vol. XX. Shared universe confirmed.
Don't get too excited about 1000s of planets, temper your expectations. If there are legit that many and fully explorable, expect vast swathes of nothing. On the other hand there are "1000s" but are just small explorable instances of the planet that you load into.
Remember how much area they touted was in Fallout 4, but then a third of it was ocean. Keep that in mind.
Remember how much area they touted was in Fallout 4, but then a third of it was ocean. Keep that in mind.
Fredrik
Member
That’s my thinking as well. I can see the lifeless expressions but the next second I see a sprawling city or a landscape that completely blows my mind, and I’m just in awe.
Time stamped til after the over one thousand planets to explore comment:
Amazing!
And to think this is a RPG as well. With mods
mansoor1980
Gold Member
NEXUS mods members since yesterday........................
cant wait as i am a member myself
cant wait as i am a member myself
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
You dont have to visit them all. Unless you just prefer devs pointing a gun to your head when you play their games. Holy shit dude....
Stuart360
Member
Its funny actually becaue with the engine being a variation of the same engine, i wouldnt be surprisd if modders are already designing stuff for the game.NEXUS mods members since yesterday........................
mansoor1980
Gold Member
the mods will hit the performance of this game hard for sure , it is a massive game
killatopak
Gold Member
Nah. There is only a single planet in Elder Scrolls. The other planets, as mortals can see are the realms of oblivions.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah it’ll be fun for sureNEXUS mods members since yesterday........................
cant wait as i am a member myself
synchronicity
Member
Looks fantastic to me. Can't wait.
Ribi
Member
Kev Kev
Member
this is the biggest bummer for me. im still hoping MS comes around to VR one day. apple is supposedly about to announce a VR/AR headset and it could change the game we'll see
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
I have enough in my backlog to play probably for the rest of my life. In order for a game to make me purchase it, it needs to seriously impress me and make it worth my hard earned money. This game looks good don’t get me wrong, I’m sure it will be “fine”, but I can truthfully say from what I have seen so far, I will not be there day one 100%. I haven’t even felt the need to buy a Series X yet.
kanjobazooie
Mouse Ball Fetishist
MS Flight Sim 2020 has a VR mode, so who knows.
Stuart360
Member
If PSVR2 sells massive, like 30-40% of the PS5 userbase, i think MS would def make a VR headset for Xbox 5. Or at least license one of the PC headsets.
I get the feeling MS are playing the waiting game in regards to VR. Waiting to see if it ever gets semi mainstream, and also waiting to se which headset ends up the most successful.
Of course the other option is to invest into a gaming PC and play on PC.
Punished Miku
Member
There's no moon and sun? No other planets? I dunno man.
They don't even know what other continents exist outside Tamriel. I don't think they've mastered space travel yet to confirm it.
Fredrik
Member
True but there is some jankiness, Skyrim VR is a dedicated VR version and it’s phenomenal combined with the modding community, physics on physics and no floating hands etc, it’s awesome. Starfield VR should happen but I doubt it ever will.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
None of the combat looked good, lol.
I'll forgive janky combat over AI that can see through the back of their heads though. And to feature it in a promotional video seems doubly perplexing.
SJRB
Gold Member
The guy just can't help himself.
Fredrik
Member
No but it’s what we should assume until they officially talk about anything else.
People should consider playing this on PC, for mods and visuals and performance.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Correction, one is open world the other is open worlds....with an S.
Graphics dont ake a game great.
The size of Starfield couldnt possibly have that fidelity for every NPC.
Considering HZ isnt even one planet wide, its not even a fair comparison.
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Stuart360
Member
To be fair there will probably be 'performence' and 'graphics' modes i would of thought.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Skyrim in Space, times x1000.
Combine that with existing dialogue/world systems and you have Starfield.
Hilariously, despite being more ambitious i find its premise a lot more grounded in reality compared to its first kin, Star Citizen. That game goes all out on every aspect, but Starfield simply reads like a massively scaled up Elder Scrolls/Fallout.
To be honest, i can see that working.
It did look very similar to previous Creation/Gamebryo/Netimmerse games though. And the combat gameplay... Doomy?
The game sells me on the premise of 1000 planets and a way to visit each one of them. If the biomes are varied enough (and moreover, interactive! Some footage looked really barren for a Creation Engine like game), this could be a sleeper hit. Ofcourse, with a bunch of Todd's Bugs.
Combine that with existing dialogue/world systems and you have Starfield.
Hilariously, despite being more ambitious i find its premise a lot more grounded in reality compared to its first kin, Star Citizen. That game goes all out on every aspect, but Starfield simply reads like a massively scaled up Elder Scrolls/Fallout.
To be honest, i can see that working.
It did look very similar to previous Creation/Gamebryo/Netimmerse games though. And the combat gameplay... Doomy?
The game sells me on the premise of 1000 planets and a way to visit each one of them. If the biomes are varied enough (and moreover, interactive! Some footage looked really barren for a Creation Engine like game), this could be a sleeper hit. Ofcourse, with a bunch of Todd's Bugs.
Maybe Valerian. It is a City of a 1000 planets after all.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
When watching it I hoped it was on the very easiest difficulty, and that's why they seemed so dumb.
killatopak
Gold Member
The lore is that the sun is a hole in Mundus that was made when one of the gods were escaping the Daedra and the stars in the sky are smaller holes made by that gods servants.
The moons are part of Lorkhan's body. Nirn, the planet Tamriel is part of, is also part of Lorkhan's body.
I don't think technology has a part in this when we know that Daedra and Aedra exists. We know their powers and what they are capable of. It's easy to assume everything else is true when a couple of mortals in Morrowind became gods and said similar things.
Punished Miku
Member
That is interesting. But it's just as easy to assume the sun isn't a hole in Mundus, and that they don't know what they're talking about. And that they don't exactly have "gods," they just have magic and some beings that are old and powerful. Could really go either way. I don't really care, would just be a fun easter egg at best.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
There are parts of the trailer that seem to run closer to 60, but then it plummets to sub-30 when actual gameplay starts. So it seems like it's trying to run at 60 but failing miserably.
Edit: I guess the entire trailer is 30, and the parts that looked smoother to me are just where it actually manages to hit that (which it mostly doesn't). Lol.
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Craig of War
Banned
I don't play BGS games solely for the looks of it i play BGS game for the the masterful RPG mechanics
Sure a game looking good is a plus but Anyone playing a game purely base on how it looks is not a real gamer
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
That S doesn't matter, in either case only what's visible is drawn by the gpu, the 999 other world are stored on the ssd to be loaded up when needed.
I never said anything about great - just read what I wrote. NPC in this AAA game don't look next gen enough. That's all I said.
Real gamerTM.
Dude just accept the fact that this aspect of the game is the way it is. Its not making the game bad, its just the way it is.
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Balducci30
Member
Are we really saying the characters look any worse than demons souls ps5 characters? One of the few “next gen” games we have? I’m not seeing the massive issues people have
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Razvedka
Banned
No I won't. I give games a "cooling" and "settling" period. I mean if my opinion frustrates you, than alright. But don't go making shots across my bow for purchasing practices you *think* I make.
Relatedly, this opinion piece from TechRadar is pretty much how I felt.
Starfield reveal shows Bethesda’s sci-fi RPG is already losing the space race
Barely breaking orbit
www.techradar.com
Fingers crossed that Bethesda has bigger things to show us which will impress. It can still be a great game even if it has middling to unfavourable comparisons with other games that came before it. It's just disappointing it took 6 years to get here, and the next TES was sidelined for it.
At least so far.
Craig of War
Banned
I don't care im not a graphics whore that all they play is 3rd person cinematic action adventure game wile staring at the NPC faces all day lol
You thinking this is some kind of flex is laughable maybe play more variety of games instead of only movies games
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I doubt they are actually storing 1000+ planets, the storage requirements would be ridiculous. It's much more likely that the planets are procedurally generated when you visit each one, much like NMS, but with more hand placed stuff on at least a bunch of them (which you can absolutely combine with procedural generation, because it generates the same results every time as long as the seed doesn't change). I guess the only question is if the Creation Engine is actually capable of that.
Decontamination Silo
Banned
How do we make a shotgun seem futuristic?
Square shells
Square shells
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
What are you even talking about? lol
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