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[ChorizoPicozo]

From the position it's coming from, yes.

There's no reason why EA, Take-Two and Epic can't compete. To even say that about Epic with the $ that Fortnite has brought in over the years, especially with COD recently trying to position against Fortnite and not the other way around.

Unless Activision has some voodoo going we are unaware of, they are just mortal developers like the rest.

And what did they said at the end?

 

[Gone]

Sony can fuck off.
What a stupid thing to say..

 

[DaGwaphics]

They're talking about a rival to COD

The closest thing is Battlefield from EA, which yeah, can't compete with COD

So, Activision can never be acquired because EA had a swing and a miss with Battlefield? Interesting.

Typically, these anti-trust laws are about companies that make it impossible for others to compete, not so much situations where it's completely possible to compete but the competition is just bad at it (figuratively speaking, a lot of people love Battlefield) . I guess we'll see, a really desperate attempt IMO. But, it's good to see the fake bluster wash away.

 

[Gone]

What a stupid thing to say..
Fuck Sony.

 

[AlteredForms]

Is COD still a powerhouse? I assumed people must have gotten sick of it by now.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Call of Duty: Activision Reportedly Wants To Release Next Three Games On PlayStation Despite Xbox Acquisition - IGN

The next three annual Call of Duty games are still set to be released on PlayStation as a result of existing commitments.

www.ign.com

I missed cod 23 which was delayed to 24, so who knows about that

Common sense dictates the rest, will probably still get games like spyro which don't sell consoles (when Nintendo exists), but cod would absolutely shift the market

Common sense is your argument when your link says 3 games after you claimed ONE?

 

[bitbydeath]

Sony could just buy Epic , Fortnite is bigger than COD.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What a stupid thing to say..
Fuck Sony.

Sony has the money. They could replicate a GP equivalent if they wanted to with plenty of cash to spare.

Their PS gaming division makes something like $3-4B profit per year. And that's after all the sub plan downplaying they said, even though they got sub plans themselves.

They just dont want to spend any of that profit back for better sub plan services with better games. Not only does GP have first party games, but also much better recent game selection. Sony can ante up and get some better third party support.

Sony's claim about sub plans dumbing down quality is unknown. If anything, it improves the quality because someone did a recap one time comparing PS Now vs GP metacritic ratings and GP games were higher quality by a good 10 pts.

What Sony also doesn't factor into is sub plans are choice. No third party company is forced to do it. Most games arent even on sub plan either. And aside from first party games, most games that come to GP are games that already did their 12 months selling before hitting the service.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

So, Activision can never be acquired because EA had a swing and a miss with Battlefield? Interesting.

Typically, these anti-trust laws are about companies that make it impossible for others to compete, not so much situations where it's completely possible to compete but the competition is just bad at it. I guess we'll see, a really desperate attempt IMO. But, it's good to see the fake bluster wash away.

Anti-trust laws encompess far more than that. Just look at meta. They're being sued over one VR fitness game.

And no, obviously they can still get aquired regardless. It doesn't change the fact that it's a moat in this industry and vital part of PS. You wouldn't claim it's ridiculous that Microsoft can't make an iphone competitor would you?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Remember when the deal was first announced and people here were trying to convince everyone that losing CoD would have no detrimental effect on Sony?

Seems Sony disagrees.

I remember when some people claimed that Sony will just develop a CoD killer to deal with that. Good times.

 

[ManaByte]

Anti-trust laws encompess far more than that. Just look at meta. They're being sued over one VR fitness game.

The basis of that was Beat Saber, a game that isn't even exclusive to the Quest and wasn't made by Meta. It's on every VR platform.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Common sense is your argument when your link says 3 games after you claimed ONE?

I mentioned how warzone would receive continuous updates throughout the thread, and I specifically said mainline entries but those were somewhat vague statements.

I think warzone 3 would go to Sony as well, a free battle Royale game makes perfect sense to share, with exclusives for players who play the mainline cod's, which couldn't be played on playstation, but as a day one release on gamepass.

They're doing their best to pump gamepass, and it's obvious lol, maybe they go the route of Netflix and rely on current subscribers and eventually dumb content and raise prices, but right now they're still building up to prime Netflix

They want people in their ecosystem with minimum drama not exactly rocket science

 

[Goalus]

Sony could just buy Epic , Fortnite is bigger than COD.

Acquiring Epic is about as difficult as acquiring Valve.

 

[Gone]

Sony has the money. They could replicate a GP equivalent if they wanted to with plenty of cash to spare.

Their PS gaming division makes something like $3-4B profit per year. And that's after all the sub plan downplaying they said, even though they got sub plans themselves.

They just dont want to spend any of that profit back for better sub plan services with better games. Not only does GP have first party games, but also much better recent game selection. Sony can ante up and get some better third party support.

Sony's claim about sub plans dumbing down quality is unknown. If anything, it improves the quality because someone did a recap one time comparing PS Now vs GP metacritic ratings and GP games were higher quality by a good 10 pts.

What Sony also doesn't factor into is sub plans are choice. No third party company is forced to do it. Most games arent even on sub plan either. And aside from first party games, most games that come to GP are games that already did their 12 months selling before hitting the service.

Exactly. It's all stupid reasoning.

If you are "4ThePlayers", why don't you put your first party games on your subscription service day one and eat the loses?

"Oh our games are so cool and cinematic they can't be put on a subscription service day one. Please believe us or we're not gonna spend money on the next one ".

 

[DaGwaphics]

You wouldn't claim it's ridiculous that Microsoft can't make an iphone competitor would you?

I would say that's a ridiculous claim, yes. Google had no problem with it. MS obviously has the means, but not the know how, they screw up every time they try. Regardless of how huge Android and iOS are, a competitor can still come along. Look at Sony and MS in the gaming space. Regardless of the odds, there's always the opening for the right idea (and preferably a huge bank account to back the ideas up).

 

[bitbydeath]

Acquiring Epic is about as difficult as acquiring Valve.

It’s still an option if they’re that worried, they’ve already bought a small amount of shares.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I would say that's a ridiculous claim, yes. Google had no problem with it. MS obviously has the means, but not the know how, they screw up every time they try.

You think Google Pixal rivals the iphone? Lmao okay

 

[DaGwaphics]

You think Google Pixal rivals the iphone? Lmao okay

I would say the Android ecosystem as whole does without question. And as a phone, feature for feature, sure it's a rival, better in some ways.

 

[Amiga]

This the same Sony that bought Bungie?

MS paid good money for Activsion they get to do what they want when they want.

Sony where setting the board for dominant control of console gaming. MS ruined that by buying the equivalent of a full street set in Monopoly.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

What a stupid thing to say..
Fuck Sony.

Sony can fuck off.
What a stupid thing to say..

Yeah

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I would say the Android ecosystem as whole does without question. And as a phone, feature for feature, sure it's a rival, better in some ways.

As a phone the google pixel is irrelevent. The iphone dominates it. Quality is irrelevent.

 

[teezzy]

Is that Paris Hilton?

Yes

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

MS paid good money for Activsion they get to do what they want when they want.

As someone who is saying that Cod will be cut off eventually (mainline sooner than later) , no they don't. If that was the case they'd just immediately corner the entire market, they have the money on hand to buy ubisoft, embracer, EA and whoever the fuck else they want without sweating. And limit playstation to Japan.

Thank god they can't, but they're just going to play as nice as they have to as they make further acquisitions. Sharing short term helps with regulatory control, and is a huge reason they developed xcloud

 

[AmuroChan]

This is basically Sony admitting that they can't compete with MS when it comes to the long game. At some point Sony will just have to face the fact. MS is a $2 trillion dollar company with unlimited resources. Sony is barely a $100B company and in our lifetime will never come close to sniffing the financial might that MS wields. After the Activision deal closes, MS can easily go out, acquire Ubi, Take-Two, Capcom, EA and that cost would still be chump change to them. MS will become the dominant force in gaming. It's not a matter of IF, but when.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Weird way to spin what Sony said.

They are playing a role here. They don't want to lose an IP like COD. They would always sound negative as hell to not lose that game and show why it should remain multiplatform.

COD is bigger than any first party title they have. Or Microsoft. Or Nintendo.

You don't see anything else bigger than COD made by any of the main 3 console makers. Maybe GTA online, Fortnite, Minecraft. But they are available everywhere.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is basically Sony admitting that they can't compete with MS when it comes to the long game. At some point Sony will just have to face the fact. MS is a $2 trillion dollar company with unlimited resources. Sony is barely a $100B company and in our lifetime will never come close to sniffing the financial might that MS wields. After the Activision deal closes, MS can easily go out, acquire Ubi, Take-Two, Capcom, EA and that cost would still be chump change to them. MS will become the dominant force in gaming. It's not a matter of IF, but when.

So....you are saying the acquisition should be blocked then.

 

[Kagey K]

So....you are saying the acquisition should be blocked then.

Legally, there's no reason to block it and I'm sure it will be appealed to hell if someone does try to block it, all it would do is delay the inevitable merger.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Legally, there's no reason to block it and I'm sure it will be appealed to hell if someone does try to block it, all it would do is delay the inevitable merger.

But I wasn't asking form a legal point of view. I was asking from an AmuroChan's point of view.

 

[//DEVIL//]

didn't they just buy Bungie ? .....

 

[Kagey K]

didn't they just buy Bungie ? .....

It's the old "do as I say not as I do" adage in full effect.

 

[AmuroChan]

So....you are saying the acquisition should be blocked then.

No, I'm not. I'm for letting the market play itself out.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It's the old "do as I say not as I do" adage in full effect.

So Destiny was the cod killer afterall

Good to know

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

No, I'm not. I'm for letting the market play itself out.

Funny.

 

[ComboBongo]

Negative about the acquisition? No shit lmao

Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again

Sony would have done the exact same thing, but maybe take mw2 away and timed exclusive warzone updates for playstation, tough shit

I have both consoles, but now every entry is hitting game pass day 1, thanks Microsoft

I thought this too but it’s really all about Game Pass. As long as COD is on their subscription service and only their subscription service then I think having it on other stores (PlayStation, Steam and physical sales on Amazon etc) is just a bonus. It will still pull people over to Game Pass and then the remaining people that will never move off a Sony console can purchase at full price. I guess it just depends on whether the additional development for another platform is worth it to them going forward. Microsoft want a healthy PlayStation division if only to keep Amazon, Google, Apple etc out of the equation as much as possible, so that’s also another reason why I think it’s possible that it stays multi platform.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

No, I'm not. I'm for letting the market play itself out.

Even if that meant Sony merged with Nintendo and turned Zelda into a sad dad walking sim?

 

[Amiga]

As someone who is saying that Cod will be cut off eventually (mainline sooner than later) , no they don't. If that was the case they'd just immediately corner the entire market, they have the money on hand to buy ubisoft, embracer, EA and whoever the fuck else they want without sweating. And limit playstation to Japan.

Thank god they can't, but they're just going to play as nice as they have to as they make further acquisitions. Sharing short term helps with regulatory control, and is a huge reason they developed xcloud

I mean do what they want with Activsion.

 

[Captain Toad]

If microsoft could do it sony can too

But they couldn't

 

[ANDS]

I don't see how it's any different than what Sony did with Tomb Raider on the original PlayStation.

I'm not sure what "Sony did with Tomb Raider." Having said that, TR has never been, even at its height, on the same level culturally as COD. It isn't even close. I'm not sure how true it is, but before crossplay was a thing, people were making console purchase decisions based on where their friends would be playing the game. I'm sure SONY has done estimates of what losing COD would have for their platform and they aren't happy about it (along with all the other properties under AB that will go behind a emerald wall).

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Well yeah, they tried to just catch Halo a bunch of times themselves or with a partner and failed so of course they can't touch COD.

Killzone, Resistance, MAG, HAZE, RIGS VR, Destiny, probably others.

 

[ReBurn]

You don't seem to grasp what weakning competition does do you?

Hopefully it makes Sony work harder to stay competitive and release the kinds of games that COD players want to play. I mean, after all of their money hats to keep big games like SFV only on PS4 and Final Fantasy 16 only on PS5 it seems Sony knows a thing or two about weakening competition. It's hard to feel sorry for them when they're snatching up big games with one hand and begging governments to help them stay competitive with the other.

 

[ManaByte]

I'm not sure what "Sony did with Tomb Raider." Having said that, TR has never been, even at its height, on the same level culturally as COD.

When Sony bought the franchise for the entire generation it was bigger than COD.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

But they couldn't

Maybe before WoW Microsoft could but after that no, lol, no one is touching COD.

 

[FStubbs]

That's a blatant lie, they have Bungie

 

[adamsapple]

What a stupid thing to say..
Fuck Sony.

If this all wasn't being said right on the heels of Bungie's acquisition being approved, I can almost believe them. But with the PS+ revamp and their own multiple acquisitions in the last month alone, this just reads like them being sore whiners.

 

[GreatnessRD]

That's the problem, stop trying to be like Call of Casual that has been deep rooted in folks brain for over 20 years. Apex is one of the most watch streams on Twitch, stop with the fuck boy answers, Sony. Lmao

 

[BennyBlanco]

It’s still an option if they’re that worried, they’ve already bought a small amount of shares.

not really. tencent owns a 40% stake.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

I thought this too but it’s really all about Game Pass. As long as COD is on their subscription service and only their subscription service then I think having it on other stores (PlayStation, Steam and physical sales on Amazon etc) is just a bonus. It will still pull people over to Game Pass and then the remaining people that will never move off a Sony console can purchase at full price. I guess it just depends on whether the additional development for another platform is worth it to them going forward. Microsoft want a healthy PlayStation division if only to keep Amazon, Google, Apple etc out of the equation as much as possible, so that’s also another reason why I think it’s possible that it stays multi platform.

You could be right, but that's exactly what people were saying during the Bethesda acquisition.

If you read what I said, playstation only players would still have f2p warzone (and warzone 2, 3 etc) on playstation, where they can still reap in micro transactions, and add in content specific to xbox exclusive (and pc/mobile/tv) mainline titles forcing whales to their platform.

Get a taste, not a full meal. None of this would kill playstation either, it'd just bring Microsoft closer to an even market, and still might not be enough

 

[Punished Miku]

Sony being a bitch basically. Lame.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

When Sony bought the franchise for the entire generation it was bigger than COD.

Well yeah it's hard to beat something when you don't even exist

 

[Edgelord79]

Sony apparently likes whine with their cheese.

I mean seriously though, this is just standard. Of course they are going to say that.