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[Topher]

I have plenty of data, you just choose to ignore it as anecdotal, even though it's clearly much more than that. You also completely ignore the digital market as a whole, which is super convenient for your weak argument.
Even this very thread backs up what I am saying, but you ignore that too. "Witty" pics just make you look silly - the go to crutch for those who can't convey anything in words and too weak of an argument so you overcompensate with insults a 5yo old could put together.

I'm insulting your arguments and ignoring your "data" because it is fictional. There is nothing factual about anything you have said and every post that you come back with has more fluff and no facts. Amazing that you are still clinging to this notion that the "vast majority" in this thread were forced to buy the disc version.

Oh wow, you must be totally anti Sony if you call them out for freezing PS+ stacking, wow, amazing. Wait, based on that, since I don't really care about if Sony freezes stacking, does that mean based on your logic, now I drink the Sony Kool Aide? I mean if you say one bad thing about Sony that means your not, so one good thing must mean the opposite, right?

I never made any statement about you drinking Kool Aide at all, now did I? This whole "kool aide" nonsensical argument is your silly line of thinking, not mine. Frankly, I think it is hilarious that you are whining about me "insulting" you with a gif when you were the one to get personal making absolute statements about me "drinking kool aide" and defending Sony "no matter what". You do understand what your own words ("no matter what") means, don't you? I need only one example to render that claim false and rather than cry about being insulted, I provided it. And just like the real data I provided against your fake shit, you just dismiss it. Your entire argument in this comes down to "whatever I say. to hell with facts".

 

[Twinblade]

Because despite that fact that almost every other single person on this board says the disk version is easier to get, he wants to use your one example as "proof" that there are tons of digital models out there and nobody wants one. Yes, it's creative math time.

Neither one was easy to get when I got my ps5.

I was lucky that Newegg picked me.

 

[Duchess]

For me, the advantage of the disc is being able to play my PS4 disc titles, as well as swap games with my brother.

The disadvantage was the price and also that the drive used to be noisy. I've fixed the noisy drive issue by setting the console to be vertical. I still notice the sound of the drive spinning up during its hourly check, but its not nearly as intrusive as it used to be, thanks in part to Sony reducing the speed. When there's no disc in the drive, it's quieter than a mouse*.

(* and I literally know this, because my cat brought a mouse in while I was playing, and I could hear it squeaking in terror**)
(** yes, I rescued the mouse and put it somewhere safe)

 

[saintjules]

 

[Painskiller]

Only disc drive!
1.0 ver games with valuable glitches (for example Returnal), borrowed games, cheap games etc.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Last time I bought a physical game were in 2017 and before that maybe 2015, so I went with a digital console. Also having a US PSN account here in Denmark = new games at ~$40-$50

I don't want to use time to sell my games.

Digital is the right choice for me.

+ the Physical edition is buttugly

++ Think about the environment! All that oil it takes to print games - you physical priests are the reason our children will be eating mutantfish and bathing in radioactive water!

 

[th4tguy]

Games don't drop in price like that at launch for new games in the States. I think the DE will be just fine for me.
PSN store shows brand new PS5 game is 69.99$ (plus tax)
I go to any store and that same game is going to be 69.99$ (plus tax)

Either way I'm paying close to $80 for a new game within a month or two of launch

 

[THE DUCK]

I'm insulting your arguments and ignoring your "data" because it is fictional. There is nothing factual about anything you have said and every post that you come back with has more fluff and no facts. Amazing that you are still clinging to this notion that the "vast majority" in this thread were forced to buy the disc version.



I never made any statement about you drinking Kool Aide at all, now did I? This whole "kool aide" nonsensical argument is your silly line of thinking, not mine. Frankly, I think it is hilarious that you are whining about me "insulting" you with a gif when you were the one to get personal making absolute statements about me "drinking kool aide" and defending Sony "no matter what". You do understand what your own words ("no matter what") means, don't you? I need only one example to render that claim false and rather than cry about being insulted, I provided it. And just like the real data I provided against your fake shit, you just dismiss it. Your entire argument in this comes down to "whatever I say. to hell with facts".

Nothing fictional about the market overall being 60% digital, yet you ignore it time and time again. Just google it. Yet you continue to assert that prospective PS5 owners at a rate of 80% want the disk drive? That's just silly.

As far as the Kook Aide goes, I call it like I see it. You can pretend you aren't biased but it's obvious. I'm not crying about anything, just think it's silly how defensive you became and how obvious your double standard is. Every single time someone says your "ignoring facts" it's basically because they have no real leg to stand on. Instead of refuting what I'm actually saying with some sort of logical argument, you just say, you have no facts, fake, LOL.

 

[Kokoloko85]

I got the disc incase but Ive been mostly digital

 

[Captain Toad]

Nothing fictional about the market overall being 60% digital, yet you ignore it time and time again. Just google it. Yet you continue to assert that prospective PS5 owners at a rate of 80% want the disk drive? That's just silly.

As far as the Kook Aide goes, I call it like I see it. You can pretend you aren't biased but it's obvious. I'm not crying about anything, just think it's silly how defensive you became and how obvious your double standard is. Every single time someone says your "ignoring facts" it's basically because they have no real leg to stand on. Instead of refuting what I'm actually saying with some sort of logical argument, you just say, you have no facts, fake, LOL.

Go play your Xbox.

 

[Topher]

Nothing fictional about the market overall being 60% digital, yet you ignore it time and time again. Just google it. Yet you continue to assert that prospective PS5 owners at a rate of 80% want the disk drive? That's just silly.

We are not talking about the market overall. We are talking about PlayStation owners. I presented an article showing that PS owners bought more physical than digital. And I have made no such statement about what percentage of PS5 owners "wanting" either version other than what people in this thread have said. That's the argument you invented with no facts to back it up

As far as the Kook Aide goes, I call it like I see it.

 

[TikiLagoonSam]

Disc 100%. Sold my PS4, bought a ps5 disc edition, been playing all my PS4 games I already had on it, upgraded to the ps5 version for free. Buying used games in the future to also save money. Playing Blu-ray 4kUHD movies on it. You will come out ahead eventually.

 

[Strider Highwind]

Both of mine have the disc drives in them, got my nephew the one without the disc version...but I've never used the disc drive lol

 

[THE DUCK]

Go play your Xbox.

Actually I'm playing Kena right now on my PS5, vibes of Starfox Adventures!

 

[EverydayBeast]

Gamers have to get use to digital gaming

 

[Topher]

Actually I'm playing Kena right now on my PS5, vibes of Starfox Adventures!

Does that make you unbiased?

 

[THE DUCK]

Does that make you unbiased?

Not automatically, but it does mean at least I play more than one machine, unlike a good chunk of people on this forum that champion one or the other.
Most seem to attach their self worth to the machine they like the most, I don't. I have a PS5, Xbox, a switch, a PC, an oculus, I enjoy them all, if one is picked over another I don't lose out on anything personally.
I do however see that there is a larger vocal group that supports Sony, that's why I don't feel the need to be outspoken in terms of Sony. (which automatically labels me as an xbot)
I never did get around to a proper PS5 vs XBox Series X review, in it I planned on saying I felt the more "next gen" experience was being had on the PS5 so far. Just wish the games were cheaper - on that end I just have to be patient in some cases.

 

[Paasei]

Physical. Digital is bad for consumers.

 

[Goalus]

Physical. Digital is bad for consumers.

Physical is bad for the planet though.

 

[rofif]

Physical is bad for the planet though.

Don't be naive.
how many of these discs and boxes end up in a landfill? Not much. There is always a collector
how much plastic does it use compared to gear and electricity to run more servers ?
It's not so cut and dry

 

[CuteFaceJay]

You can tell they really wanting to blur the lines between both formats.

 

[arvfab]

100% physical where it's possible, so would never buy a digital only console.

 

[thefool]

Always go physical.

 

[Topher]

Not automatically, but it does mean at least I play more than one machine, unlike a good chunk of people on this forum that champion one or the other.
Most seem to attach their self worth to the machine they like the most, I don't. I have a PS5, Xbox, a switch, a PC, an oculus, I enjoy them all, if one is picked over another I don't lose out on anything personally.
I do however see that there is a larger vocal group that supports Sony, that's why I don't feel the need to be outspoken in terms of Sony. (which automatically labels me as an xbot)
I never did get around to a proper PS5 vs XBox Series X review, in it I planned on saying I felt the more "next gen" experience was being had on the PS5 so far. Just wish the games were cheaper - on that end I just have to be patient in some cases.

That's fair. I own PC, Xbox, and PS5 but Sony games have always been my preference. And no, I make no attempt to pretend otherwise. I do enjoy all my game systems though or I wouldn't own them. Having said that, I don't get this idea some have that owning a system eliminates their bias. People can't buy objectivity. Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with being biased towards a personal preference as long as it doesn't interfere with logic and reason.

 

[CobraAB]

I got a disc model but that was mainly because that seems to be the model Sony has been selling the most of and figured the chance of getting that one was greater.

 

[anothertech]

Digital for me.

If more of them were available for $399 it would absolutely be the preferred choice.

 

[THE DUCK]

That's fair. I own PC, Xbox, and PS5 but Sony games have always been my preference. And no, I make no attempt to pretend otherwise. I do enjoy all my game systems though or I wouldn't own them. Having said that, I don't get this idea some have that owning a system eliminates their bias. People can't buy objectivity. Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with being biased towards a personal preference as long as it doesn't interfere with logic and reason.

I actually think a lot of my Xbox bias comes from hating the PS4 controller (fixed on PS5!) and being invested in the ecosystem. Well and maybe game pass because I am cheap. I will never leave either though, too many good games on both.
My Sony bias comes from so many good game experiences lately. My Nintendo bias comes nostalgia and from just how brilliant some of their games are, but it's a love hate relationship. The mere idea of Nintendo working with next gen hardware makes me crazy, they could so much with it yet they have both arms held behind their backs working on 2013 hardware.

 

[KiteGr]

Physical.
Because, Duh!?....

 

[THE DUCK]

Physical.
Because, Duh!?....

Or digital, since I can jump between any game (even more so with quick resume), reload at any time, load on multiple machines easily, never lose or scratch a disk, even play the same game on more than one console at one time without buying extra copies.
The whole idea that physical is some how 100% better is beyond silly. For disks, of course you have a second place to find sales, resale value, and the whole collecting feeling. Each has their own strengths. For people who have zero intention of buying disks, why exactly would it be "Duh?".

 

[Alan Wake]

Disc drive all the way. Despite the console being f*ck ugly. And Series X. Great to be able to play all my PS4 and Xbox One games on my new consoles and I enjoy keeping my games on shelves.

 

[KiteGr]

Or digital, since I can jump between any game (even more so with quick resume), reload at any time, load on multiple machines easily, never lose or scratch a disk, even play the same game on more than one console at one time without buying extra copies.
The whole idea that physical is some how 100% better is beyond silly. For disks, of course you have a second place to find sales, resale value, and the whole collecting feeling. Each has their own strengths. For people who have zero intention of buying disks, why exactly would it be "Duh?".

Physical, because you can no longer legally play more than half of these now, can you?
Also, my answer was to the console that can do both over the one that can only do digital.



...

...duh!

 

[Lord Malachite]

Had a version with the Disc drive since launch day. I just wish a firmware update would fix that issue where the PS5 stops recognizing a disc and you have to eject and reinsert it!

 

[nikeboy94]

Had a version with the Disc drive since launch day. I just wish a firmware update would fix that issue where the PS5 stops recognizing a disc and you have to eject and reinsert it!

I've never had that problem. Sounds like you might have a faulty PS5.

 

[THE DUCK]

Physical, because you can no longer legally play more than half of these now, can you?
Also, my answer was to the console that can do both over the one that can only do digital.



...

...duh!

I guess if I cared about 20 year old games and had time to play them. Or you could just emulate them in the same or superior form a about 30 seconds on any modern PC. Or even a series S or X. Duh.

 

[nikeboy94]

Physical all the way and here are the reasons:

• Not limited by choice.
  • You have the choice to buy your games digitally or physically at competing retailers
• Game Preservation & accessibility!
  • Physical games will always be playable (given a working console & assuming it doesn't rely on patches).
  • Digital games could be taken off storefronts at any time (like P.T.).
  • Digital games will not be accessible anymore if the service provider shutdowns the digital store.
• Be able to trade in / sell old games
• Be able lend games to friends & family
• Be able to (physically) gift games

The truth is that when you're buying the Digital Edition of the PS5, you're actually just getting a restricted Physical Edition console. If you're the type of gamer that will never buy physical and doesn't care about the preservation crap then the digital edition is completely fine. But I believe that the concept of an Offline Physical Edition console needs to always exist because consoles are an ever-changing landscape and we shouldn't lose the games we love to time. Gaming Corporations have all the power in the digital world, while physical games/consoles are pro-consumer.

Having said all that, Digital all the way on PC .
If I might explain:

• Physical just isn't an option on PC anymore. Ain't nobody got time for disc drives.
• Lord Gaben's Steam platform has built trust with consumers over-time.
  • Steam may not be around forever - that's always the risk. But I think most of us can safely say that it's a strongly supported platform and I'm personally confident it'll be around as long as PCs are around.
  • I think Gabe or someone at Valve said something about giving us a way to play all our games if Valve ever croaks.
• PC is the best games-preservation platform out there.

 

[anothertech]

399 digital. If it were available, everyone would buy this.

That is all.

 

[Salmon]

digital obviously. physical is dying and the sooner people admit it the better.

Well, I still wanna own my games, so digital is not really an option.

 

[Zimmy68]

I prefer to own digital because I don't trade in my games but would never buy a digital only console unless it was the only one offered.
I picked up Elden Ring and Returnal for $49, something impossible to do digitally (at least when I got those deals).

 

[Kupfer]

I didn't want to get involved in the pros and cons, because this thread isn't about pros or cons, but about a ratio. However, I have to dig in right now:

I prefer to own digital [...]

This is a contradiction, you do not own anything digitally. You only have the right to use the game as long as the licensee allows it. While it's unlikely that Sony will take the servers offline and/or remove games from their shop anytime soon, it has happened before.

 

[Lord Malachite]

I've never had that problem. Sounds like you might have a faulty PS5.

The system is fine, probably something wrong with the drive. When I insert a disc it reads fine. Generally I do not remove a disc until I have finished with the game completely and uninstall it, because I don't want to put undue wear and tear on the induction mechanism for the disc drive. I do also turn my system off completely rather than using rest mode. After a few boots of the system, I will see a "?" icon appear on the home screen indicating that the system does not recognize the format of the disc inside it. An eject and reinsertion has never failed to resolve the problem. It's a minor inconvenience just one that takes an extra step to resolve when I want to jump into a game. For the record, here is what it looks like when this occurs. Currently, the RE3make disc is inside the drive.

For the record, this issue occurs with both PS4 and PS5 discs, it is not limited to one or the other.

 

[Labadal]

I have never had that with any sort of disc on PS5. I'd have it checked if your console is under warranty.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

For you disc players (who arent collectors), I get that buying games on disc can be cheaper sometimes, but if you go digital and do home sharing with a friend or fam member, that regular priced disc is cut in half. So day one Game X is equivalent to 50% off. Buying a game on digital store deal makes it even cheaper.

You cant find one trustworthy friend or fam member to split games with?

 

[Labadal]

For you disc players (who arent collectors), I get that buying games on disc can be cheaper sometimes, but if you go digital and do home sharing with a friend or fam member, that regular priced disc is cut in half. So day one Game X is equivalent to 50% off. Buying a game on digital store deal makes it even cheaper.

You cant find one trustworthy friend or fam member to split games with?

I could, but I don't like sharing that way. We usually borrow games from each other. Physical games here in Sweden can usually be found for half of PSN price for example. You usually get a decent price when you sell, too.

Then we can take older games for example. I no longer have a PS1 or PS2. I still emulate my games on PC. I emulate most of my PS3 stuff, despite owning the console. My digital stuff cannot be transferred, sold or emulated in the same way. I have many digital games on PS3, but when it dies, the games are basically gone.

My PSVita digial games, what happens when my Vita dies? No access to said games.

The PSP felt like the most friendly for transferring digital games to your PC. All my digital PSP games are transferred.

On PS4, i bought a few digital games on steep discount, but on PS5, I am physical only. I am happy whith that.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Physical is bad for the planet though.

Datacenters are extremely bad to the planet though.

 

[Goalus]

Datacenters are extremely bad to the planet though.

I need some receipts for this claim.
A fully solar-powered data center is the most environmental-friendly way to deliver games to the customer.

Especially if you think about the fact that most games on disc need the data center anyway because half the content is missing on the disc.

 

[Kupfer]

Some votes have been added again.

Out of 467 valid votes, 387 (81%) own the disc version and 89 (19%) own the digital version of the PS5.

So the ratio of versions still seems to be around one digital to four disc PS5.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

I mean swapping disc when I want to play another game. Short GT7 session, a mission in HZD than something else... without having to get up the couch.

O what a disaster, you must move your ass to put a disc in, you must be the pinacle of the couchpatatoes

 

[sankt-Antonio]

O what a disaster, you must move your ass to put a disc in, you must be the pinacle of the couchpatatoes

Do you walk to your LP player and change Vinyls to listen to another track of your liking, or do you simply select the track on your device and it streams off of Spotify? At the end its the same for disc less gaming. Has nothing to do with being a couch potato or lazy ... its universal convenience.

 

[Quezacolt]

Especially if you think about the fact that most games on disc need the data center anyway because half the content is missing on the disc.

This part is such a big lie. You are clearly speakingh of something you dont know anything about, just hear others saying the same bs and believe them.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Because despite that fact that almost every other single person on this board says the disk version is easier to get, he wants to use your one example as "proof" that there are tons of digital models out there and nobody wants one. Yes, it's creative math time.

Personally I wouldn't have bought a digital ps5 if that was my only option.