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DualSense Edge controller announced

angrod14

Member
I think these "pro" controllers are just a gimmick to make more money out of you. Wouldn't you be playing with keyboard/mouse if you were that "pro" and competitive?

More isn't necessarily better. Adding buttons and configurations and shit just complicate things. Will keep my standard, streamlined Dualsense.
 
I kinda want one and do need a new controller to replace an xbox series controller for my pc that's started doing double input for the A. Hopefully this isn't ridiculously expensive.
 

Justin9mm

Member
$150 USD and no mention of improved battery life.. Fucking fail.

Just another way for Sony to cash in on the market they have been missing out on. And these will sell because consumerism has changed. People love to buy things that are trendy, expensive and hard to get as a trophy to say I have this or I have one!

(Incoming rant..) This all stems from the evolution of social media, everyone is a critic, everyone is entitled, everyone wants all eyes on them, everyone wants other people to believe their life is better. Social media is cancer! And companies are cashing in!!
 
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lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Replaceable stick modules:

win.

No more drifting and replacing a whole controller.

Dont forget there may be third party drift proof analog module as well!!!

$150 USD and no mention of improved battery life.. Fucking fail.

Just another way for Sony to cash in on the market they have been missing out on. And these will sell because consumerism has changed. People love to buy things that are trendy, expensive and hard to get as a trophy to say I have this or I have one!

(Incoming rant..) This all stems from the evolution of social media, everyone is a critic, everyone is entitled, everyone wants all eyes on them, everyone wants other people to believe their life is better. Social media is cancer! And companies are cashing in!!
im 100% willing to buy this controllre day 1 with even 200 Us dollar because of the removable analog module feature.

So they're taking care of Stick drift by making removable sticks?
do you want to replace the whole controller or just the analog module?

And no, i highly doubt Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony is going to replace the ALPS analog module


In fact what makes the sticks drift are not the sticks themselves but the component under it, the one attached to the controller board, so removing the sticks like shown on the video won't fix the problem.
Im pretty sure it will fix the problem, thats literally the point of removing the analog module.

this is coming from a user that have remove the dual sense and personally applying temporarily fix on the drifting several times.

this video have explain why drifting happens. the issue is within the analog module.
 
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Replacement thumbstick module needs to be $20 or less, but I think Sony will likely charge way over that. Probably around $40 is my guess. I would love to be proven wrong, but Sony for some reason thinks they can start charging Apple tax on their products.

Like others, I would prefer rechargeable AAs. If the Elite 3 comes out soon, among other changes, that would be near the top of my list.

I also agree, that only 2 paddles is a downer. They must have some data from other "pro" controllers, that maybe most people only use two, but why not give us the option.
 

ShirAhava

Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
All I would want is an 'eternal' Vita type Battery, a Decent D-Pad and real PC driver support

80% of gamers don't care about the type of shit they are pushing and watch this controller still have the same documented 'issues' the OG Dualsense has
 
Replacement thumbstick module needs to be $20 or less, but I think Sony will likely charge way over that. Probably around $40 is my guess. I would love to be proven wrong, but Sony for some reason thinks they can start charging Apple tax on their products.

Like others, I would prefer rechargeable AAs. If the Elite 3 comes out soon, among other changes, that would be near the top of my list.

I also agree, that only 2 paddles is a downer. They must have some data from other "pro" controllers, that maybe most people only use two, but why not give us the option.
Isn't the 4 paddles patented by Scuf?
 

Tams

Member
$150 USD and no mention of improved battery life.. Fucking fail.

Just another way for Sony to cash in on the market they have been missing out on. And these will sell because consumerism has changed. People love to buy things that are trendy, expensive and hard to get as a trophy to say I have this or I have one!

(Incoming rant..) This all stems from the evolution of social media, everyone is a critic, everyone is entitled, everyone wants all eyes on them, everyone wants other people to believe their life is better. Social media is cancer! And companies are cashing in!!
Better battery likely would mean a bigger battery, and the DualSense is already heavy, plus these new parts.

Battery technology is not magic and has barely improved in getting on 20 years now. And yet people like you treat it as if it can be magically improved.

You can turn off the rumble and adaptive triggers to save power, as it's extras like that that cause the greater power drain.
 
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sainraja

Member
For those having issues with battery life, id highly recommend buying one of these docking stations. You can simply set on your controller on it after you're done. Keep it next to your couch if you are lazy. plugs into any AC wall socket.

The official PS one is pricey at around $30 but you can get a third party one for around $17-20.

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Yeah, I have one like this and I don't really have to worry too much about battery life. I can switch if it really dies on my during a game — I am not playing 24/7 so that doesn't happen that often.
 

Justin9mm

Member
Better battery likely would mean a bigger battery, and the DualSense is already heavy, plus these new parts.

Battery technology is not magic and has barely improved in getting on 20 years now. And yet people like you treat it as if it can be magically improved.

You can turn off the rumble and adaptive triggers to save power, as it's extras like that that cause the greater power drain.

The PS5 controller has 1560mAh Lithium-Ion battery. You can upgrade and put a 4000mAh battery in there no issues which is not that hard to do. Yet people like you think Sony is 'magically' giving you the best battery tech possible. It comes down to cost!

So it can be improved, stop your dribble.
 

Tams

Member
The PS5 controller has 1560mAh Lithium-Ion battery. You can upgrade and put a 4000mAh battery in there no issues which is not that hard to do. Yet people like you think Sony is 'magically' giving you the best battery tech possible. It comes down to cost!

So it can be improved, stop your dribble.
You criticise me, and then think you can get a 4,000mAh battery in a space designed for a 1560mAh battery...

Mate, you are either wilfully ignorant or an actual idiot.

You might be able to get a 2,000mAh battery in there, but considering the battery market is plagued with fakes that never meet their advertised specs, that's unlikely.
 
That's cool, I'm fine with the original. Glad a competitive controller came out . Seemed like a no brainer for Sony to make one.
 

Larxia

Member
Replacement thumbstick module needs to be $20 or less, but I think Sony will likely charge way over that. Probably around $40 is my guess. I would love to be proven wrong, but Sony for some reason thinks they can start charging Apple tax on their products.

Like others, I would prefer rechargeable AAs. If the Elite 3 comes out soon, among other changes, that would be near the top of my list.

I also agree, that only 2 paddles is a downer. They must have some data from other "pro" controllers, that maybe most people only use two, but why not give us the option.
If replacement sticks are 40$, you might as well just buy a new controller lol.
Even 20$ sounds crazy expensive to me for just 2 sticks, but that's definitely possible...
 

Tams

Member
If replacement sticks are 40$, you might as well just buy a new controller lol.
Even 20$ sounds crazy expensive to me for just 2 sticks, but that's definitely possible...

Yeah, but on the other hand, this should make it very easy for third parties to make their own replacements and them to be easy for the end-user.
 

Larxia

Member
Yeah, but on the other hand, this should make it very easy for third parties to make their own replacements and them to be easy for the end-user.
I want third parties replacement using different / older tech when stick drift wasn't a thing :messenger_loudly_crying:
 

GenericUser

Member
Hall effect sensors or bust.
I had to google what that actually means and - HOLY SHIT - thanks for sharing this dude. I will never ever buy a premium priced controller that has no hall effect sensors now. Stick drift can go and eat a dick. If sony charges 200 euros upwards, they better deliver something that lasts more then 6 month. I'm already on my 3rd dualsense and that thing is a piece of trash, from a durability perspective.
 
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magnumpy

Member
Replaceable stick modules:

win.

No more drifting and replacing a whole controller.

Dont forget there may be third party drift proof analog module as well!!!


im 100% willing to buy this controllre day 1 with even 200 Us dollar because of the removable analog module feature.


do you want to replace the whole controller or just the analog module?

And no, i highly doubt Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony is going to replace the ALPS analog module



Im pretty sure it will fix the problem, thats literally the point of removing the analog module.

this is coming from a user that have remove the dual sense and personally applying temporarily fix on the drifting several times.

this video have explain why drifting happens. the issue is within the analog module.


so, what is the early consensus answer regarding the effectivity of the edge "pro" controller? does it actually offer anything over the bog standard PS5 controller?

things that I would expect from a "pro" controller include reduced input latency and generally higher quality build materials, price be damned. is that what I'm looking at here, or is this just a standard unexciting controller revision? :goog_unsure:
 

lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
so, what is the early consensus answer regarding the effectivity of the edge "pro" controller? does it actually offer anything over the bog standard PS5 controller?

things that I would expect from a "pro" controller include reduced input latency and generally higher quality build materials, price be damned. is that what I'm looking at here, or is this just a standard unexciting controller revision? :goog_unsure:
i dont think there will be reduced latency and etc....

Since im fine with the dualsense, this pro version is an improvement for me since i have some issues on the drifting.
I never have any issue on the build quality of dualsense except the drifting.

However if you are looking for other improvement than drifting, this controller may not be for you i guess.
 
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Exactly. AA are easy to replace and give customer options to use ANYTHING.
Xbox controllers last me 30hours and then "BAM AND SWAP BATTERIES, GO".
Dualsense lasts 6-8 hours and then charges for 2-3... and looses capacity over time... and sony is not selling replacement batteries
fuck your AA batteries

i have to get that shit all the time for vr controllers and guess what, when they run out you can't just plug in a cable and keep playing like you can on the ps5 controller

just plug your controller every time you're not playing, i never ran out of juice even once since day 1
 

Crayon

Member
Looks great but Dualsense is already amazing as it is.
I'll probably buy it if one of my two controllers breaks or battery life becomes poor.

That's true. It's $70 and it's a fantastic controller. ironically even better on PC where you can take full advantage of the gyro. I always have one paired up to the PC and I've done hundreds of hours on it. All the cool effects aside, it's a really nice controller and it feels as expensive as it is. I have a hard time believing this is going to be worth twice the price.
 

Boglin

Member
I hope that I can remove one of the sticks and it will still function during gameplay. I can only enjoy asymmetrical controllers.
 

Soodanim

Gold Member
Touchpad and back buttons means this is the upgrade path from DS4 on PC. Once this is supported on PC/Steam I'll have to get one. Bye bye forever, claw grip.
 

8BiTw0LF

Banned
It’s not true.
For ps5 if you remove the battery, wired connection does not work
Right, but the battery is only there to transfer the electrical signal - even when it's "dead" it'll be able to do that. Wired will always be an option.
 

rofif

Banned
Right, but the battery is only there to transfer the electrical signal - even when it's "dead" it'll be able to do that. Wired will always be an option.
Maybe yes maybe not. Depending how it dies.
If it's swollen and you need to take it out, it will not work wired.
I am sure someone will figure out the workaround. I am surprised it's not done yet
 

8BiTw0LF

Banned
Maybe yes maybe not. Depending how it dies.
If it's swollen and you need to take it out, it will not work wired.
I am sure someone will figure out the workaround. I am surprised it's not done yet
If it's swollen you'd have to change it no matter what.

Extremely easy to do. 2/10 in difficulty
 
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Miles708

Member
I think these "pro" controllers are just a gimmick to make more money out of you. Wouldn't you be playing with keyboard/mouse if you were that "pro" and competitive?

More isn't necessarily better. Adding buttons and configurations and shit just complicate things. Will keep my standard, streamlined Dualsense.
Everything revolving around "player competition" in games is essentially a marketing gimmick if not an outright scam.

Of course Sony had to make an entire different (and overpriced) controller instead of simply making the ps4 back button attachment compatible with Dual Sense.

What about having quality sticks and battery already on your 70$ product, instead of selling "quality" at an even higher price point?
 

kikii

Gold Member
In fact what makes the sticks drift are not the sticks themselves but the component under it, the one attached to the controller board, so removing the sticks like shown on the video won't fix the problem.
and thats false, what makes sticks drift is the user :p , never had stick drift problem and probably ever will ^^
 
I think these "pro" controllers are just a gimmick to make more money out of you. Wouldn't you be playing with keyboard/mouse if you were that "pro" and competitive?

More isn't necessarily better. Adding buttons and configurations and shit just complicate things. Will keep my standard, streamlined Dualsense.
Its got nowt to do with competition for me, but it will make me a better player.

more in this case is better, more buttons simplifies things, now I don't need take my thumb off the aim stick to reload then re aquire my target then fire. I just need to press a button whilst tracking my target then fire when ready.... That's streamlined.
 
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hemo memo

Gold Member
Improve the battery life, you CUNTS.
They can. Problem is they have to remove al the gimmicks which will affect compatibility. It is stupid that I have to use 2 Dualsense so I can swap between them because of the awful battery but I only charge Switch Pro once a month.
 

The_Verecocha

Neo Member
Any news or reasoning on just the two paddles on the back yet? Almost makes it pointless for those of us using it to keep fingers permanently on the sticks.
 
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