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She-Hulk: Attorney at Law |OT| A Lawyer Show

Labolas

Member
*comments about something they know literally nothing about*

Hey maybe take a minute and educate yourself?

"hOW BouT nO!!!"


Good talk I guess lol

Lol, it's a goddamn scene from a show that I happen to criticize not the show as a whole. What am I going to magically love the scene all of a sudden if I had this supposed context? I need to educate myself on Disney plus show? Do hear yourself?

Not coming across condescending at all.
 

John Bilbo

Member
I'm watching the third episode and I think I get this show now: this is an in universe spoof on the MCU.

I think it wouldn't be as controversial if it wasn't in universe but a separate entity of it's own.

I mean you can do a spoof in the same universe as the "more serious stuff", but it will most likely cause some contradictions in the personalities of the known and shown characters.
 

RAÏSanÏa

Member
Wait so you are in a thread for a show you don't watch trying to cast a blanket judgement on a scene that you not only have no context for, but also have no buildup for?


You should have led with that and saved us both some time.


How completely ridiculous lol
Ridiculous and obvious.

They're doing what they as activists do.

In this scheme they're relentless trying to make believe something about a subject they know nothing about in terms of the scene to the human condition to challenge informed opinions.
 
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RavenSan

Off-Site Inflammatory Member
I dunno, I still like this show better than a lot of the other crap Marvel has put out post-Endgame. I suppose there's no accounting for taste, however.
 

RAÏSanÏa

Member
Didn't you know? Activists can ONLY be "woke propagandists"
It's obvious they often organize and get their marching orders from third parties, like youtubers, to protest against certain shows with a goal in mind.

Self-awareness doesn't seem to be their strong suit. A by-product of living in denial, perhaps. Self-evaluation requires questioning which introduces doubt into an overburdened self-righteousness that prompts scripted attacks upon shows they don't watch.

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In those cases maybe it is misdirected anger.
 

Lady Jane

Banned
It's about execution. The dancing in Guardians of the Galaxy was executed and set up well. This one wasn't which is why it's getting deservedly clowned on.
 
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Toons

Member
Come on, bro.

Clearly you need to watch whole episodes before you have the right to mock anything in said episode.

Like this chase scene is completely excusable if you'd watched the whole episode, obviously.




Same with She-Hulk, there'd be lore and explanations why she twerks like this. Be reasonable.

/s


Did you just use a discussion about she hulk to complain about a scene in a completely unrelated show?

Can someone explain to me why people to this and what point they are trying to make? Like if I post a scene from Harley Barry's catwoman and say "yeah and this was supposed to be good too!" What exactly is being communicated?

Besides, the complaint over this scene was blown the heck out as well, considering the brand this is a part of
 

Ulysses 31

Member
Did you just use a discussion about she hulk to complain about a scene in a completely unrelated show?

Can someone explain to me why people to this and what point they are trying to make? Like if I post a scene from Harley Barry's catwoman and say "yeah and this was supposed to be good too!" What exactly is being communicated?

Besides, the complaint over this scene was blown the heck out as well, considering the brand this is a part of
Did you just miss the entire principle of the matter and seeing this as a 1 on 1 comparison?

It's an example of a scene that can be judged on its own without having seen the rest of the episode/context. (Usually if it can be cut without impacting the story)

So unless that twerking scene is important for plot or character development later in the series, it's not unfair to have an opinion on it only having seen that scene.
 
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DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Did you just miss the entire principle of the matter and seeing this as a 1 on 1 comparison?

It's an example of a scene that can be judged on its own without having seen the rest of the episode/context. (Usually if it can be cut without impacting the story)

So unless that twerking scene is important for plot or character development later in the series, it's not unfair to have an opinion on it only having seen that scene.

The context YOU'RE missing (and others) is that earlier in the episode, it's made clear that Jen is a fan of hers... That the light elf is being sued for catfishing AS Megan Thee Stallion and defrauding someone... AND that Megan signed on as a client of Jen's after seeing how the trial went... That was a celebratory dance AS a fan WITH the object of her fandom.

I get tired of people saying they have the right to criticize something that they didn't watch because they got their opinion from someone else taking ish out of context ...
 

Ulysses 31

Member
The context YOU'RE missing (and others) is that earlier in the episode, it's made clear that Jen is a fan of hers... That the light elf is being sued for catfishing AS Megan Thee Stallion and defrauding someone... AND that Megan signed on as a client of Jen's after seeing how the trial went... That was a celebratory dance AS a fan WITH the object of her fandom.

I get tired of people saying they have the right to criticize something that they didn't watch because they got their opinion from someone else taking ish out of context ...
Still don't see nothing wrong with commenting on seeing She-Hulk twerking. If they go as far as to say there's 0 story reasons for doing so you push back the way you did.

I still see it as a scene that could be cut and it wouldn't change anything in the story(so far) so it's also easy to judge in isolation.
 
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MastaKiiLA

Member
Just watched 2 and 3. I quite like the show. It has some funny moments. Episode 3 might be the funniest one so far. The post-credits stuff is whatever, but I'm not sure people get the 3 one. Pretty sure they took a shot at Cara Delevingne with that one. Anyway, solid show. The thing with Bruce going back to Sakaar would've probably bugged me if I hadn't watched it, but then learned about it in a future Hulk film. It's not a significant plot point, but it's still bigger universe stuff being sprinkled into all of these shows. If they ever release a completely standalone series, I'm skipping it.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Still don't see nothing wrong with commenting on seeing She-Hulk twerking. If they go as far as to say there's 0 story reasons for doing so you push back the way you did.

I still see it as a scene that could be cut and it wouldn't change anything in the story(so far) so it's also easy to judge in isolation.

None of the mid-credits scenes have been important to the story ... They've all been fun little vignettes... That's all they have been to this point. Yeah you could cut each one off the show but they've all made me chuckle... The first one shocked me a bit because I didn't expect that! LMBO!
 

sol_bad

Member
Come on, bro.

Clearly you need to watch whole episodes before you have the right to mock anything in said episode.

Like this chase scene is completely excusable if you'd watched the whole episode, obviously.




Same with She-Hulk, there'd be lore and explanations why she twerks like this. Be reasonable.

/s


I think these are 2 totally different things.

The Leia complaint is about how the scene was shot poorly.
The She-Hulk scene is about the scene just existing.

You don't need context to see how poorly the Leia scene is filmed. But you do need context about the She-Hulk scene and why it's there.
 

wondermega

Member
Ugh this thread. 7 pages of "how could they change her precious origin?" Really gaf? Fucking who cares?

Anyway - I was looking semi-forward to this show, She-Hulk is a great Marvel character and absolutely deserving of some spotlight. They had a few really strong superheroes in 80s comics and she stood out as being powerful, smart, and fun, so it sounded like it would be a good blueprint for a show in the current Marvel pantheon. Of course I am no dummy so tempered my expectations, for a bunch of reasons.

Well here it is and 3 issues, I mean, episodes in and it's - well it's its own thing, that's for sure. I don't hate it, I DEFINITELY do not love it, and I will stick with it for a little while (hopefully it will get better, it has to?) I think the issues I have with the show are more issues I have with the current state of the MCU (the constant references to outer space travel, Skrulls, Asgard, bleah bleah). If they could like just tone ALL of that noisy shit down and concentrate on building a more immediate world and life around the main character and her posse then it might be more accessible, for me anyway. Probably one of the reasons that I actually really like Moon Knight, they barely mentioned any connections to the larger universe and just let the immediate players do their thing, and it wasn't perfect but definitely much better than this, hell even Falcon and Winter Soldier did a good job of the same. Anyway I get away from my point.

The Abomination/Wong/etc stuff feels like it could be interesting but just feels weird and kinda useless, but ok I get it they are trying to play up "she's a lawyer.. for super hero issues" angle. Ok. That character I haven't cared about ever, but if they get the two tussling at some point all will be forgiven. I guess you could say that I am just jonesing for SOME actiony stuff to happen. We get a glimpse of the Wrecking Crew at the end of the latest episode, and they clearly have some powered weapons but just run away? Even if she should be able to wipe the floor with them, we don't really see anything happen at all. Again, hopefully a set-up for some actual action to come at some point soon, but we are eeking close to the midpoint of the show and it's still a bunch of (literally) dancing around with not-funny jokes, for the most part, so..

Yeah, I guess my main issue is that it sucks they neutered the Hulk, and now they even have neutered the She-Hulk. Because this is not a full-on feature film but rather a D+ show and they are likely blowing their entire budget just trying to have their main character be decent-looking CGI for all the shots she is in, which are abundant. I get it. It's just a damn tease, because what we COULD have (big bombastic film with lots of climbing up the sides of buildings and tossing cars and punching holes in things) is clearly not in the cards, and they don't really give much hint otherwise (even if not fighting, just joke shots of her accidentally destroying gym equipment, or carrying entire file cabinets, or.. something.. hulky). Now to be fair, I had low to no expectations of Loki or even Moon Knight and both of those shows did interesting things with their budgets, I guess I could think of a few other examples of the other D+ shows as well. It makes this feel a very in-between, throwaway show (so far). We'll see. If episode 4 is more of exactly the same with not much going on besides "oh haha, her name is SHE Hulk, sick burn" then I guess that I won't have much else to expect at that point. I guess we will see. Enough other people don't seem to be having much of a problem with any of this, so maybe it's just me.
 
It's obvious they often organize and get their marching orders from third parties, like youtubers, to protest against certain shows with a goal in mind.

Self-awareness doesn't seem to be their strong suit. A by-product of living in denial, perhaps. Self-evaluation requires questioning which introduces doubt into an overburdened self-righteousness that prompts scripted attacks upon shows they don't watch.

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In those cases maybe it is misdirected anger.
I think you have to be a dumbass to compare the GotG’s opening sequence with She-Hulk twerking.
 

nkarafo

Member
Come on, bro.

Clearly you need to watch whole episodes before you have the right to mock anything in said episode.

Like this chase scene is completely excusable if you'd watched the whole episode, obviously.


I can't believe this scene exists, lol. It's not even a mainstream/average joe normie level of bad. I would expect something like this from a school play at best.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
None of the mid-credits scenes have been important to the story ... They've all been fun little vignettes... That's all they have been to this point. Yeah you could cut each one off the show but they've all made me chuckle... The first one shocked me a bit because I didn't expect that! LMBO!
Exactly so when one stands out so much like the twerking one it will likely be more commented on.

I didn't say anything about the quality it adds to the She-Hulk show. :messenger_winking_tongue:

I don't know MCU/Comic She-Hulk enough to say if it's out of character for her.
I think these are 2 totally different things.

The Leia complaint is about how the scene was shot poorly.
The She-Hulk scene is about the scene just existing.

You don't need context to see how poorly the Leia scene is filmed. But you do need context about the She-Hulk scene and why it's there.
Nah, you're thinking I was comparing the craftmanship quality of the scenes when I'm talking about how little the scenes add to the overall show and thus they could be more easily judged without seeing the whole episode.

For the record, I don't think that She-Hulk scene was anywhere near as badly done as the Leia chase one. :messenger_fistbump:
 
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YCoCg

Member
So is Wong now a wanted criminal in the US? Fucking loved how he just ducked out after they raised that issue.
 

Scotty W

Member
The context YOU'RE missing (and others) is that earlier in the episode, it's made clear that Jen is a fan of hers... That the light elf is being sued for catfishing AS Megan Thee Stallion and defrauding someone... AND that Megan signed on as a client of Jen's after seeing how the trial went... That was a celebratory dance AS a fan WITH the object of her fandom.
Now that you have explained it like that, the show is totally vindicated!

Your move, bigots!
 

John Bilbo

Member
So is Wong now a wanted criminal in the US? Fucking loved how he just ducked out after they raised that issue.
Based on that scene he should be, but I don't think there will be any consequences as the scene was played for laughs.

Would be refreshing if it had some consequences or a pay off somehow.

So far the show seems to try to be quite care free with its storytelling.
 
wondermega wondermega your long post pretty much ended up landing near the same talking points as everyone you criticized at the beginning of it.

So far it's very simple to explain this show. It's the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon but just live action. I mean for crying out loud it even features the goofy wrecking crew as potentially recurring enemies just like the cartoon.
 

Pidull

Member
Really loving this show, I'm finding it funny to be honest.

Only thing that was weird was the recent episode's fourth wall break when she talks to the camera. Like... Why? Really odd decision and I'm not a fan.
 

John Bilbo

Member
Really loving this show, I'm finding it funny to be honest.

Only thing that was weird was the recent episode's fourth wall break when she talks to the camera. Like... Why? Really odd decision and I'm not a fan.
When she let go of the steering wheel I thought it was going to be another moment where her 4th wall breaking would have some consequences with her crashing or nearly crashing her car.

In one of the previous episodes someone noticed her speaking to the camera/audience.
 

Pidull

Member
Because that's part of the She-Hulk comics?
Did not know that! Is that a recurring theme in the comics? I know basically every character has some fourth wall breaking stuff at some point, that's why I ask.

I think my issue was more that it's her talking about the show, if it's a talk to the camera moment like Malcolm in the Middle? Cool. But the acknowledgement of "this isn't that kind of show!" felt super odd to me.
 

Trunx81

Member
As an European I’ve got to ask: Who the hell is this Megan?

Feels a bit like integrating the Dab and Fortnite into Endgame. “Things that won’t age well”. Imagine watching this show in 10-20 years with your kids “as a classic”. “Who is that, dad?”
 

The Skull

Member
Finished episode 3 and I'm tapping out. Just another subpar Marvel product and certainly not worth the effort Marvel consoomers and the anti woke brigade are going to arguing over it.
 
My wife was looking for something to watch so I put this on for her while I went and did some work. After about half an hour I notice that there was a lot of screaming and hollering from the living room. Later I asked her how it was. Turns out she dropped it before the first episode ended and was watching “Death becomes her”. She said it was like watching a cartoon - nothing fet real, not the characters and not the dialog.
 

HoodWinked

Member
As an European I’ve got to ask: Who the hell is this Megan?

Feels a bit like integrating the Dab and Fortnite into Endgame. “Things that won’t age well”. Imagine watching this show in 10-20 years with your kids “as a classic”. “Who is that, dad?”

I'm from the US and I assumed she was a popstar made up for the show. The name sounded so stupid that I figured it had to be made up. Didn't know she is an actual performer so in that way it still kind of works.
 
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MrMephistoX

Member
I dunno, I still like this show better than a lot of the other crap Marvel has put out post-Endgame. I suppose there's no accounting for taste, however.
It’s kind of like Obi Wan it’s a good show people are just reaching because their favorite YouTubers are making ad $ off their faux woke outrage: guess what the show is billed as on D+? The description says: comedy so naturally it’s going to double down on comedy more so than other MCU content. I am so glad sometimes that I only look up funny cat videos and comedy clips for the most part on YouTube and don’t follow influencers with bad hot takes. Maybe it’s a generational thing.
 
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ManaByte

Gold Member
It’s kind of like Obi Wan it’s a good show people are just reaching because their favorite YouTubers are making ad $ off their faux woke outrage: guess what the show is billed as on D+? The description says: comedy so naturally it’s going to double down on comedy more so than other MCU content. I am so glad sometimes that I only look up funny cat videos and comedy clips for the most part on YouTube and don’t follow influencers with bad hot takes. Maybe it’s a generational thing.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
It’s kind of like Obi Wan it’s a good show people are just reaching because their favorite YouTubers are making ad $ off their faux woke outrage: guess what the show is billed as on D+? The description says: comedy so naturally it’s going to double down on comedy more so than other MCU content. I am so glad sometimes that I only look up funny cat videos and comedy clips for the most part on YouTube and don’t follow influencers with bad hot takes. Maybe it’s a generational thing.

You see it on Twitter, you see it here, etc, where some people don't actually discuss the movies or shows they're in the threads about - they're basically just present to be angry and repeat, often verbatim, what some YouTuber told them to feel. And sometimes they're the most prolific posters in the thread! Imagine being so square and dorky that you spend hours upon hours picking fights with strangers on the internet over fucking She-Hulk.

I just ignore them and go on my way now. No reason to be dragged down to their weird, sad level.
 
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