At least 4.
Despite the numbers you've listed clearly making your point factually, in the context of the overall point you were seemingly making, the price of those TV shows are less, relative to the longevity they have to earn from from full price customers and with much wider audience appeal, because unlike TV, games aren't passive and the ability for gamers on gamepass to stumble on Starfield 9 years from now, like say a Netflix customer stumbling on the excellent 2014 Marco Polo, and then commit 200hrs to an old buggy game and keep their sub because of it, is far less than the simple passive time commitment of a viewer to watch the +50hrs of the Marco Polo seasons and stay subbed for it, and without being put off by it's 9year old production quality, which unlike Starfield will be almost identical to a show of today.
My statement is correct, I said the average show not the most expensive show
And netflix subscriptions dropped during the period that Stranger Things season 3 released.
Also Netflix has as I mentioned 400+ million subscribers, when your subscriber base is that large, you can afford to make both expensive and cheap shows and even cancel the ones which are a total failure with little financial impact, see Resident Evil for an example of this.
We don't actually know this. The closest we got to actual revenue/profit was positive but so vague as to be ... well too vague.
I don't follow the point you are making, now.
MS has long obfuscated what is going on with smaller company projects like Surface and Xbox and that is by design. Shareholders don't like seeing money wasted, even if the wasted amount is insignificant compared to overall company revenue and profit. MS prints money as a matter of course from Windows, Office, and Azure so to be completely fair the smaller stuff like Surface and Xbox are basically accounting errors by comparison. As a holder of MSFT myself, I don't really concern myself with how much MS spends to prop up useless projects like Gamepass as long as the overall top and bottom lines keep setting records every quarter and every year, which they do.
Talk about some hyperbole. Squadron 42 looks good in it's newest trailer, but it's not out yet. Star Citizen is definitely not a complete game, and isn't close to it yet.
Maybe we can come halfway but we know where Starfield is and it's a disappointment.
One of these days you will make Starfield a failure. I believe in you.
Because you'd be so pleased about the numbers that once you had the actual data of GP subs, that metric alone would completely satisfy your curiosity, right?
But, it isn't though...not even close. Lol
Now, let’s not get crazy. Only one of these two is an actual game and not a tech demo. Mind you it’s not a very good game but that’s better then whatever Chris Roberts is peddling.
Even that wouldn't be true. EAFC 24 was the number 1 best selling game in Europe, not Starfield.
Nope, still EA FC24 in the UK too.
That’s it. It’s all about net profit, and how they get there is mostly irrelevant.
I played until you get the ship and go to some pirate colony or something, then I gave up because I was so bored. I don’t know if that’s 30 minutes, but it felt like an eternity.
Starfield isn't a particular buggy game today, why is it going to be so in 9 years? Also, your first paragraphs premise is based on someone staying subscribed for one game, and that just is not realistic. I agree that no one is going to discover Starfield 9 year from now and stay subscribed just to continue playing the game, but that also isn't gamepasses value proposition.
Have you seen gamepass lineup lately?
very foolish to think xbox users dont
There are never guarantees. And one of these days you’ll realize that games you see on sales top lists can be put on a shelf and never be played or dropped in 10 minutes and aren’t even counted equally on all platforms with Nintendo platforms sometimes completely excluding digital sales when other platforms celebrate their ”win”.
To be fair it's probably lower than the execs at Microsoft thinking of ways to spin their sales figures to make them look good.
There are never guarantees. And one of these days you’ll realize that games you see on sales top lists can be put on a shelf and never be played or dropped in 10 minutes and aren’t even counted equally on all platforms with Nintendo platforms sometimes completely excluding digital sales when other platforms celebrate their ”win”.
Fabricated PR numbers or not. It’s a success anyway you look at it. It’s not like every game get 11 million people to download it and play it for 10 minutes. Even reaching a million can trigger a PR notice. And this is a new IP too, and no online modes, and a dev with a somewhat bad reputation. It’s worth some celebration
Yeah not talking about the economy, I have no insight there. But MS can probably pick Phil’s nose and find 200m USD. It’s no real issue right now. I’m just talking about gamers discovering a game and being interested enough to try it. 11 million on Xbox Series, Steam and Microsoft Store is certainly not bad, even more so if half on the players are on Xbox, which is a small platform today.
