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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

GymWolf

Member
A blind man can look at this and tell you it's a target render.
I can look into the reflection in the eyeballs of someone that is watching the video and tell you it's a target render.

The korean samurai ps5 trailer we saw some time ago looked more real than this one.



Btw did we really spoke about this game in this topic?
 
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GymWolf

Member
Sure but I thought this thread was about fidelity we want to EXPECT/SEE this generation?
Yeah but there has to be a baseline of reality, that thing is at best a target render.

If it was made by a respectable developers it would be different, like if it was made by ND, we would have some doubt that it could be real somehow, but a korean nobody? hard to even start a discussion about it.

On the other hand, a korean nobody is making that game with the monkey king that seems to be actually a real thing, so who knows...
 
Just want to point out that once again a publisher is running a con on gamers. Ubisoft with Avatar. They send out preview codes (PC) to Youtubers known for having console- centric channels in a dishonest effort to make people think the game runs better than it really does.

They obviously stipulate in NDA's that they're not allowed to mention whichever platform they're previewing. I went to several channels (Pushsquare, Mr Matty, God is a Geek, SkyCaptain5) and none of them disclosed this fact. Most people don't realize the only console footage out there comes from carefully curated and doctored official Ubi and Playstation channels . That footage might as well be fake.

This practice is so scummy and there are no Youtubers apparently with an ounce of integrity anymore, ACG not withstanding.
 
Are we actually gonna see a Resident Evil that blows us away again with graphics? Or is last gen still in the picture…. Would love to see this series blowing us away again.

Based on Dragons Dogma 2 looking like a pretty last gen game, I have doubts. We'll, we'll find out soon enough right? Re9 will probably be revealed soon.
 

saintjules

Member
Yeah but there has to be a baseline of reality, that thing is at best a target render.

If it was made by a respectable developers it would be different, like if it was made by ND, we would have some doubt that it could be real somehow, but a korean nobody? hard to even start a discussion about it.

On the other hand, a korean nobody is making that game with the monkey king that seems to be actually a real thing, so who knows...


I hear ya. I mean these videos from last year shows some promise.





 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just want to point out that once again a publisher is running a con on gamers. Ubisoft with Avatar. They send out preview codes (PC) to Youtubers known for having console- centric channels in a dishonest effort to make people think the game runs better than it really does.

They obviously stipulate in NDA's that they're not allowed to mention whichever platform they're previewing. I went to several channels (Pushsquare, Mr Matty, God is a Geek, SkyCaptain5) and none of them disclosed this fact. Most people don't realize the only console footage out there comes from carefully curated and doctored official Ubi and Playstation channels . That footage might as well be fake.

This practice is so scummy and there are no Youtubers apparently with an ounce of integrity anymore, ACG not withstanding.
massive is known for massive downgrades, but their console versions always ran fine. i wouldnt be too worried about that game.

And every preview i watched mentioned that they played on PC at the event. or were streaming the PC version for those who didnt attend the event.

That said, this is technically Ubisoft's first next gen game so i expect hilarity. At least on the PC front where nearly every game released so far this year has been awful at launch.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
A blind man can look at this and tell you it's a target render.
Why you gotta do me dirty like that? i pretty much said its vaporware.

The trailer said its a mix of gameplay and cutscene footage and you can tell the cutscenes looked better than the gameplay clips i giffed above.
 

SimTourist

Member
Not so fast though, isn’t the switch still decently more powerful than the 360 and/or the PS3? I could be mistaken on that
The Switch has a big advantage on RAM, devs complained a lot about the lack of RAM in 360/ps3. I don't think it would be possible to scale down most PS4 games all the way down to 500 megs of RAM usage. Devs have gotten lazy about optimization as well, they cry and moan when they can't bruteforce something with sheer hardware power these days.
 

RavionUHD

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The Callisto Protocol (5120*2160, Max Settings, Full Raytracing, FSR 2.0, ReShade)

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Just want to point out that once again a publisher is running a con on gamers. Ubisoft with Avatar. They send out preview codes (PC) to Youtubers known for having console- centric channels in a dishonest effort to make people think the game runs better than it really does.

They obviously stipulate in NDA's that they're not allowed to mention whichever platform they're previewing. I went to several channels (Pushsquare, Mr Matty, God is a Geek, SkyCaptain5) and none of them disclosed this fact. Most people don't realize the only console footage out there comes from carefully curated and doctored official Ubi and Playstation channels . That footage might as well be fake.

This practice is so scummy and there are no Youtubers apparently with an ounce of integrity anymore, ACG not withstanding.
PlayStation access played ps5 version I guess
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Gta6 leaked. Magic dream is dead but kills decent enough. Spider-Man 2, cyberpunk quality with better art direction.

 
massive is known for massive downgrades, but their console versions always ran fine. i wouldnt be too worried about that game.

And every preview i watched mentioned that they played on PC at the event. or were streaming the PC version for those who didnt attend the event.

That said, this is technically Ubisoft's first next gen game so i expect hilarity. At least on the PC front where nearly every game released so far this year has been awful at launch.

PC creators say its PC. Not a single console creator that I watched would say which console they're on. This is something I've noticed now for a couple years. These Youtubers need to learn to have some integrity.
 
Gta6 leaked. Magic dream is dead but kills decent enough. Spider-Man 2, cyberpunk quality with better art direction.


Idk. It’s super low res - too low res to tell much of anything. Especially when it’s just a random pan over part of the city
 
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I dont know how anyone here can judge the looks of GTA6 with such low res clip and screenshots. Game will look good, but its not going to be a needle pusher in graphics due to size and scale of the game. It will always hav a bit of that cartooney esthetic as it never went for full on realism.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I dont know how anyone here can judge the looks of GTA6 with such low res clip and screenshots. Game will look good, but its not going to be a needle pusher in graphics due to size and scale of the game. It will always hav a bit of that cartooney esthetic as it never went for full on realism.
last gen games have a look. a very distinct look that gives it away. i think the game looks great even in those low res clips and screenshots. but there is a reason why everyone in the main forum is losing their shit over it, and not just the graphics whores in this thread. people can tell cross gen when they see it. that said, i dont think they will release this on last gen consoles even if its rooted in last gen game design. they will try to avoid any kind of backlash.

Now people saying gta4 or gta5 are being ridiculous. this looks better than rdr2, and pretty much every other open world game last gen. i think it will give cybperunk and spiderman 2 a run for its money and will top both games with better art direction, cinematography and production values.

but sadly its not going to be the matrix awakens moment we were all waiting for.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
The Callisto Protocol on PC (max Settings in Ultrawide 5K and Raytracing with ReShade) looks like a movie, insane graphics.


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It has arguably the best cinematography ive seen in a video game. Only game that comes close is TLOU2 but that was 3.5 years ago.

I bought the PC version and am playing with no reshade at around 1440p internal resolution and it looks phenomenal. The PS5 version looked pretty much the same, but on PC im using high settings so i get slightly better volumetric lighting and fog effects. the biggest thing is the time and effort put into this game by the lighting artists who made every single corridor pitch perfect. of course, the cutscenes look phenomenal but its the random corridors that blow me away because im used to those corridors being used for loading and just cheap throw away levels with poor art and lighting to pad the game length. not here.

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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
After the leaks, is the thread confident that rockstar will beat a c tier developer like Teyon in terms of graphics fidelity? i have no doubt Rockstar will beat them on production values, cinematography and sheer scale, but are we expecting typical gta6 streets to look like this? 2 more days. who wants to bet?

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hlm666

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After the leaks
hahaha some of these fucktard fake leakers took that ue5 forest you posted the other day and made out it was a gta6 forest. I'm wondering if that rockstar tweet about the leakers and saying they will push it to 2029 was more about them getting frsutrated with the fakes pushing expectations through the roof more than the shitty ones the guys son released.
 
They are impressed for the game itself, not the graphic, the first game was a turd with good combat but it has a lot of fanboys nevertheless.

I guess the big statue is nice but then again, we had something similar in gow2\shadow of the titan\darksiders 2 on ps2 and the destruction is still scripted, that statue is not gonna walk free for the village to destroy houses and shit that is not supposed to be broken during his path, you know it, i know it.
I heard that you loved mercenaries on ps2 so i don't get why are you impressed by scripted destruction in 2023...mercenaries destruction would be impressive, not this stuff.

And as a setpiece, is not even on the same scale of what we had in ff16, so again, what is that blow your mind so much?
The dragons Dogma big statue Is somewhat impressive because it seems to be a real object moving through the openworld if on a strict path.

It's more impressive than that overhyped FF16 clown titan boss because at least you can move around it far more freely jump on it from any point go between it legs etc.

My mind is blown that people think that titan boss fight is impressive. It's Big that's it it's just a bigger version of the Coloussus of Rhodes from God of war 2 while somehow being more mechanically shallow and even more linear.

Having said all that has any game delivered more impressive large scale enemies than shadow of Coloussus a ps2 game!?

I don't think they have certainly not if you include gameplay considerations. Maybe Horizon but that's it.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
hahaha some of these fucktard fake leakers took that ue5 forest you posted the other day and made out it was a gta6 forest. I'm wondering if that rockstar tweet about the leakers and saying they will push it to 2029 was more about them getting frsutrated with the fakes pushing expectations through the roof more than the shitty ones the guys son released.
We aren’t talking about those fake ue5 fan footage. The current leak is a short clip leaked by a dude who is friends with a rockstar devs son.

And rockstar never made that tweet . That’s a fake tweet.
 

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So the GTA footage is from September, I havent watched any of it, but good chance the trailer looks better.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
More leaked footage. Dont remember seeing this in the leak last year. Looks like division 2. Not seeing anything next gen under the hood here that stands out. even if the graphics get improved, i dont see how the make a generational leap from this.

 

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More leaked footage. Dont remember seeing this in the leak last year. Looks like division 2. Not seeing anything next gen under the hood here that stands out. even if the graphics get improved, i dont see how the make a generational leap from this.


Pretty sure this was from the sep 2022 leak, should/could be much improved, we can hope
 

Piggoro

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After the leaks, is the thread confident that rockstar will beat a c tier developer like Teyon in terms of graphics fidelity? i have no doubt Rockstar will beat them on production values, cinematography and sheer scale, but are we expecting typical gta6 streets to look like this? 2 more days. who wants to bet?

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Not a chance. As much as I want to believe, but not a chance :(
 
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