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leaked Insomniac inclusivity training video

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Probably most companies in general in the west.
I’d say probably heavy in media companies since their workforce and content is artsy to begin with so you’ll get lots of emotions flowing.

On the other hand, out of the millions of oil and energy sector products , employees and tv ads how many are wokeish?

For the company I work at, DEI is pretty much limited to these canned online training courses we have to do. Each one takes many 10 minutes. Along with DEI content, we also get code of conduct, anti-bribery, confidential info kinds of courses. It’s so canned and similar some of them Are the exact same as last years module, but we have to do them every year.

I’ve never seen wokeish content in our packaging or products or tv ads. Pretty hard to jam that in for floor cleaner and soap and shampoo when the core message stresses is cleaning power at an affordable price.

One thing that is true for the past 10 years I’ve taken these courses is the bad guy in the scenarios is almost always a white person. Although interestinglyI’ve noticed the past few years some minorities or women in the content can be the jackass now. But still skewed to the typical white guy is the bad guy.

The white guy is usually the bad boss, perv, loud guy making racist jokes or shady guy accepting bribes.
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
I wholly agree in that minorities were the butt jokes for racism-haha, dum dum Asian har har stupidity. No arguments there.

I have two issues, with today's woke attempt at inclusivity.

First off, it is the insanely hyperbolic numbers of minorities appearing in those stories. LGBTQ+ characters appear so often now, you'd think straight people are a minority. I mean, for fuck's sake, I don't think there is a single straight character in Baldur's Gate III. I think every single PC and NPC is at least bisexual, if not flat out gay. This isn't representation, this is literally a twilight zone episode where everything is upside down.

Second, and THAT's the biggest problem, in order to AVOID the racism of old depictions, right now they are afraid to make minorities look evil (by their own moral code, anyway), dumb, or flat out assholes. Russel T. Davis literally retconned Davros, a zombie-like evil genius in a hoverchair, one of the best villains of Doctor Who into a straight white Nazi-uniformed walking male, because he didn't want viewers to look at Davros and associate disability with evil. Who gives a fuck about Batman's Oracle or Professor Xavier.

So now, when you look at a crippled character, you know he's good because there's no way they would risk offending someone by making a handicapped person evil. If the villain is a woman, she's a victim lashing out, not an oppressor. If the final villain is a man, he'll be straight and white.

Fantasy settings? Even the most remote Scandinavian inspired village will now have blacks, asians and mexicans, despite being a small isolated settlement in a northern region.

Everything looks the same. Everyone acts the same. Black people cannot be pure villains, they must be tragic figures who were oppressed. Lesbians are pure as snow. Women are better than men. White males are addicted to power.

Every single time the SAME. FUCKING. BULLSHIT.

Directors afraid to take risks, writers too busy trying to show twitter they are allies instead of saying a fucking story, minorities too busy trying to one up each other in the oppression Olympics, straight white cucks too scared to say anything but apologize for existing, and everyone telling me I am a horrible person for not liking all this shit.

Go fuck yourselves, you woke cunts. You ruin everything you touch, you corrupt anything you put your ugly fingers to, you bankrupt the ENTIRE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY OF THE WEST, and now you're starting to look across to the East.

All that because you're pampered cunts who never worked a day in your lives and have no idea how the real world works.
Shadowheart definitely wanted the "D". At least that's what I keep telling myself. Laezel as well. She wasted no time. But I get what you're saying. Most everybody's sexuality was fluid in some way. I have noticed the extra effort put forth to try and not make minorities evil.

Like I been saying...overcompensation. I don't think it's sustainable honestly. People are wising up to it. The Witcher Netflix show was really odd in this manner. In a setting where I expect 99% of characters to be white...they kinda shoehorn in black sorcerers. They even give Yennifer an "alternative" love interest who is black. Just feels weird after playing the games, you know?
 
Disgusting indoctrination, I feel sorry for any normal person trying to get a job there. Spider-Man 2 was such a let down story wise it killed all hype I had for Wolverine or anything else they have coming.

Feel sorry for anyone who needs to work. I'd fucking hate having to fall in line to this bullshit, especially when it's peached to you by corporate culture. Imagine having to suffer that hypocrisy
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I wholly agree in that minorities were the butt jokes for racism-haha, dum dum Asian har har stupidity. No arguments there.

I have two issues, with today's woke attempt at inclusivity.

First off, it is the insanely hyperbolic numbers of minorities appearing in those stories. LGBTQ+ characters appear so often now, you'd think straight people are a minority. I mean, for fuck's sake, I don't think there is a single straight character in Baldur's Gate III. I think every single PC and NPC is at least bisexual, if not flat out gay. This isn't representation, this is literally a twilight zone episode where everything is upside down.

Second, and THAT's the biggest problem, in order to AVOID the racism of old depictions, right now they are afraid to make minorities look evil (by their own moral code, anyway), dumb, or flat out assholes. Russel T. Davis literally retconned Davros, a zombie-like evil genius in a hoverchair, one of the best villains of Doctor Who into a straight white Nazi-uniformed walking male, because he didn't want viewers to look at Davros and associate disability with evil. Who gives a fuck about Batman's Oracle or Professor Xavier.

So now, when you look at a crippled character, you know he's good because there's no way they would risk offending someone by making a handicapped person evil. If the villain is a woman, she's a victim lashing out, not an oppressor. If the final villain is a man, he'll be straight and white.

Fantasy settings? Even the most remote Scandinavian inspired village will now have blacks, asians and mexicans, despite being a small isolated settlement in a northern region.

Everything looks the same. Everyone acts the same. Black people cannot be pure villains, they must be tragic figures who were oppressed. Lesbians are pure as snow. Women are better than men. White males are addicted to power.

Every single time the SAME. FUCKING. BULLSHIT.

Directors afraid to take risks, writers too busy trying to show twitter they are allies instead of saying a fucking story, minorities too busy trying to one up each other in the oppression Olympics, straight white cucks too scared to say anything but apologize for existing, and everyone telling me I am a horrible person for not liking all this shit.

Go fuck yourselves, you woke cunts. You ruin everything you touch, you corrupt anything you put your ugly fingers to, you bankrupt the ENTIRE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY OF THE WEST, and now you're starting to look across to the East.

All that because you're pampered cunts who never worked a day in your lives and have no idea how the real world works.
Yup. That’s called overrepresentation.

But I hear ya. One of the counter arguments you’d get is….. well, it’s just fiction stuff. Fantasy world content. So who cares about realistic stats?

If that's the case, then for all the whiners fuck off. It’s also fiction if it’s Grand Theft Auto of blacks and latinos in ghettos and slutty women on every block. Relax SJW, it’s fiction.
 
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FoxMcChief

Gold Member
gross
Players ain't stupid
Says Who Schitts Creek GIF by CBC
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Shadowheart definitely wanted the "D". At least that's what I keep telling myself. Laezel as well. She wasted no time. But I get what you're saying. Most everybody's sexuality was fluid in some way. I have noticed the extra effort put forth to try and not make minorities evil.

Like I been saying...overcompensation. I don't think it's sustainable honestly. People are wising up to it. The Witcher Netflix show was really odd in this manner. In a setting where I expect 99% of characters to be white...they kinda shoehorn in black sorcerers. They even give Yennifer an "alternative" love interest who is black. Just feels weird after playing the games, you know?
And to think... One of the more noticeable points of reference where this was starting to rear its ugly head in gaming, was that massive attack campaign on Vavra with Kingdom Come; Deliverance for not having "diversity" in middle-age Bohemia that was historically sourced and accurate by actual scholars.

That was the catalyst where I knew it was all downhill from here from the disingenuous hydra.
 
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I'm all for inclusivity and diversity in games but not at the expense of shitting on other groups in the process. Even more hilarious are those who proudly think making a product for some groups without caring about others is the same exact problem you went in to fix. Hell sometimes I don't think many of these people even want diversity so much as they want "more of me, less of you" in media. It's a gross double standard of sharing cultures (cultural appropriation), casting (I can be you, but you can't be me), and representation as a whole.

Again - I can't stress enough that diversity and inclusiveness in all media IS a great thing. A necessary thing, even. So let's actually be diverse AND inclusive.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
And to think... One of the more noticeable points where this was starting to rear its ugly head in gaming, was attacking Vavra with Kingdom Come; Deliverance for not having "diversity" in middle-age Bohemian that was historically sourced and accurate by actual scholars.

That was the catalyst where I knew it was all downhill from here from the disingenuous hydra.
Next thing you know there'll be asian viking shows. People upset if they don't pronounce it "Varuharra". Like it's getting ridiculous.
 
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proandrad

Member
I feel like a lot of you have never had a real job before. The corporate world is filled with a bunch of meaningless programs and initiatives no one really cares about, but you are paid to attend and participate. Singling out only inclusive practices says more about yourself than the company.
 

Tajaz2426

Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
In real life Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune would be about Nathan Drake dying on that boat ten minutes into the story.
I don’t give a rats behind about the games. I only cared about the statement you made and it sounded like you think a trained woman or spec op trained woman all the sudden can take them out.

We can easily despell that by knowing women have different physical standards than men do in the military. All this nonsense that we are equal is nothing but fabricated BS. First, a woman cannot yet at this point carry themselves in full battle gear, duece gear, M-16, M-27 (Marines), M-4, M249gulf, carry plates and launchers for support, and many other weapons along with all accessories you have on your body with grenades, extra missiles and mortars and carry another full battle dress male out of a hot zone. We haven’t had a woman in the Corps do it yet.

These crazy rumors make women believe they can handle men and it gets them hurt more often than not. There are many biological differences between us and there is nothing wrong with it.

I was only correcting that and that the gent has a right to say the truth.

Edit: sorry if I sound harsh, I am a very straight forward person.
 
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PeteBull

Member
I knew right away insomaniac got woke af after they made marry j look like 50yo marta kent from smallvile in spiderman2 , no1 sane believed they have no agenda, stud like peter parker with his physical features + being able to afford such a nice house would not chase some ugly hag, and not for one night stand but to plan future together =D

Funny thing is that not much earlier, in holidays 2020 spiderman remaster featured sexy and girly looking mj, ofc she had a temper, which woman doesnt tho ;P
all timestamped in the vid so usual woke crowd cant lie that its just different lighting/shadows/weird angle taken :p
 
In all seriousness, they probably paid $20+ million dollars to DEI consultants/firms for this on every game.
And just for the record, this was almost the budget to make Uncharted 2. Imagine instead of creating the new "Uncharted" you are spending the money on this.
 

Sleepwalker

Member
I feel like a lot of you have never had a real job before. The corporate world is filled with a bunch of meaningless programs and initiatives no one really cares about, but you are paid to attend and participate. Singling out only inclusive practices says more about yourself than the company.

Yes, all companies have it, but just because a toilet paper company has inclusive policies and guidelines doesn't mean my toilet paper will come with pride flags imprinted on it. Whereas in games you can see the effects on the product.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Next thing you know there'll be asian viking shows. People upset if they don't pronounce it "Varuharra". Like it's getting ridiculous.
Netflix already has you covered.

That eye-rolling BS instead of creating a new character aside.

What are Asian Vikings other than Mongolians at one time? ;)
 

Faust

Perpetually Tired
Staff Member
I'm sorry but don't see problem I mean if was problem there games wouldn't sell,millions I platiumed spiderman 2 and most this went over my head because I don't let things like bother me it's only a problem if let it effect you. It does not effect core aspect of why we all play games, the gameplay. Some people are just to sensitive these days, triggered by the silliest of things.

It effects the gameplay as quests and narrative are a huge part of many of Sony's first party lineup. If the narrative is trash, it brings down the rest of the game.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
Netflix already has you covered.

That eye-rolling BS instead of creating a new character aside.

What are Asian Vikings other than Mongolians at one time? ;)
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What purpose does this serve? C'mon man. So I've never seen the show...actually just started up Netflix after who knows how long over the weekend to watch Black Mirror. So the character is fictional but based on an actual Viking ruler? Is she supposed to be Mongolian?

Speaking of which, I like Black Mirror. It's actually a good example of diversity done right. Easier I guess cuz it's original storytelling, but they don't beat you over the head with LGBTQ stuff, though it's definitely in there. They don't exaggerate minorities. There's plenty for everybody in that show.
 

samoilaaa

Member
I'm sorry but don't see problem I mean if was problem there games wouldn't sell,millions I platiumed spiderman 2 and most this went over my head because I don't let things like bother me it's only a problem if let it effect you. It does not effect core aspect of why we all play games, the gameplay. Some people are just to sensitive these days, triggered by the silliest of things.
when you are forcing me to play a shitty boss fight while listening how being a man has gotten in the way of my girlfriend's dreams it affects the gameplay , this is a story driven game so story is important

its not like im playing doom and i can just skip all the dialog
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I'd be willing to bet every penny that those experts actually aren't experts(frankly, how could one even be a 'Latinx Expert' anyway, what in the fuck even is that?). Most likely these are just random mediocre activists who make up a bunch of shit.
A lot of these people in said companies are well connected in the politisphere. The rabbit hole runs deep.
 
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MacReady13

Member
even after this video people will still say that their games are not woke and you are homophobic , transphobic or a racist if you contradict them

but hey if saying that trans people are mentally ill then i guess im transphobic
The world as we know it now is currently fucked, and I don't care what anyone says or thinks about me. My only escape WAS video games. I'm all for diversity, and letting people live how they want. Once they start dictating shit to me then I have problems, and here we have some serious problems.
 

nbkicker

Member
To be honest prob all western gaming studios are like this, loved the first spiderman, had to grit my teeth through miles morales with some of the stuff put there, and seeing some of the stuff in spiderman 2 will not be going out to get it, first movies studios going stupid and now gaming studios following, think ill stick to my retro collection of games where you wernt getting agendas shoved down yr throats, god help people when wolverine comes out
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Is she supposed to be Mongolian?
No, lol. But they did race/sex swap an actual historical figure and the mental gymnastics to justify it. Along with Anne Boleyn and Queen Charlotte.

I was using the Mongolian part as a cheeky joke on how much alike they were to Vikings to the Asian Viking comment.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
No, lol. But they did race/sex swap an actual historical figure and the mental gymnastics to justify it. Along with Anne Boleyn and Queen Charlotte.

I was using the Mongolian part as a cheeky joke on how much alike they were to Vikings to the Asian Viking comment.
Ahh true true.
 
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