airmangataosenai
Member
Software slightly lower than I expected (I predicted that it'd outsell Extend at 180k) but hardware is about what I figured it'd be . Not bad, especially since people here were predicting LTD for the game to be sub-150k.
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Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2012 (Aug 27 - Sep 02)
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Don't even need to follow sales to know what will happen next week and the weeks after.
Who's blind? I'm commenting on certain people that you can tell take glee from Vita's bad sales, that's all.
Yes, and some are very quick to comment on the positve.
SHOCKING NEWS: Media Create thread is littered with fanboys.
I don't see a problem for them to stating it though. Only if what they said is not true.
EDIT:
And get carried away by it.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Sorry if that seemed to be antagonistic. Many people have been saying the same thing in reguard to people simply stating the Vita has nothing to boost its hardware sales beyond middling.
What's left for the rest of the year, just Soul Sacrifice?
KillerTravis
Banned
test_account
XP-39C²
I didnt say anything about fanboys. I just say that some are very quick to point out the negative when something positive happends, and that it doesnt go for just Vita, but other things in general as well. It's like "looks like there will be good weather today" and then someone say "there will be rain tomorrow". It might be true, but it is still focusing on the negative stuff. This example has nothing to do with fanboys, but the situation is the same. But yes, unfortunately it is SHOCKING NEWS because it happen very often :\ And personally, i much rather prefer to read positive comments about something when something positive happends.
This doesnt mean that there can be a discussion around things of course. Its fully possible to discuss what happend further on without it having to be seen as very negative.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Ys
Soul Sacrifice
Maybe EDF
TGS may bring some announcements but there seems to be more PSP/3DS support there than Vita.
Thank you ^^
Zero no Kiseki Evolution?
I think it would be better if you did. Those kinda posts honestly dont achieve much but to aggravate folks. Just call someone out if you are going to. At least then you don't have a bunch of replies from people defending their honor when you weren't even talking about them. Just making a blanket accusation to no one in particular is really just as bad.
Nah, that sounds like Sega.
Seriously? One game does that with no other significant releases in near future? I'm expecting max ~15k for Vita hw next week, and returning back to 10k level in 2-4 weeks.
djplaeskool
Member
That too. Oct 18, IIRC.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
This too. Forgot about the LOH VII remake.
test_account
XP-39C²
First i must say sorry for forgetting to write "to me it feels like" in that quote. I edited my previous post with that now. That is the reason why i wont single anyone out because i'm just going by my own observations and how i read/understand it. Maybe i'm wrong about some of it, that is why i dont want to call anyone specific out right now. If i'm wondering about someone in particular, then i might ask them directly. I hope that people dont feel aggrevated by what i said. If they want to defend themselfs, that is fine by me, but i never called anyone out on it, and people also know what their own intentions are with what they are saying/writing.
At this point I have given up trying to make understand that Vocaloids voices can be really awesome, I don't even try. You get it or you don't, I guess it´s a matter of taste,
So many great songs from many different Vocaloids, I don't get tired of them.
Edit: Ok, what the hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKUDHPw15m0&feature=related (Prima)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZzD8q6OIAo (IA)
Don't be mad at people telling the truth. Be mad at Sony-sama, which sent the Vita to die.
test_account
XP-39C²
I'm not mad, and i'm not mad at anyone
I just said that sometimes it feels to me that the bigger focus is on the negative side when something positive happends (not just for Vita, but things in general). I didnt say that people should say this or that, i have no issue with people discussion what will happen further. That is afterall what much of sales-age is about, positive, neutral or skeptical outcomes.20 days. Which have ended for most of the 400 000+ users who bought it first week. Fujisawa commented that the number of active players has remained constant after the 20 days ended and I can confirm that it still happens that almost all of the 40 servers get crowded (mostly after 10 pm Japanese time). The amount of content is also way too much to clear in 20 days. And they already anounced a new sidequest or something.
i'm expecting stuff from tgs. it should carry the vita into the middle of 2013 at least. if it's still selling 10k a week after a revision/price drop, then i think things will wrap up for it in early-mid 2014.
I'm sorry what? Yours is really a truly trollish reply. The guy gave you reasons for saying what he said, told you he saw a bigger issue than Vita right here and yet you make a snarky remark at him, as if completely ignoring what you just quoted.
Anihawk
Lots of people come into these threads because they feel happy when the competitor of their favourite console is doing badly. Stating the truth is a different issue entirely. I'm sure that they enjoy the failure itself. Just comes with being extremely serious or interested about any topic really. Internet is full of this in any area, whether it is gaming, politics or whatever.
The Vita game adds a new symbol for scratch actions, done with the touch screen. I already wrote that earlier in the thread.
DragonSworne
Banned
Vita needs a game with legs. Miku games aren't long sellers. Cheering that this will change things for Vita seems naive.
Sony needs a new Monster Hunter type game, a new IP that will generate new buyers for years. Miku has a small but loyal fan base, and it's not growing any bigger than it already is.
Constant steady releases of games will die out without a true system seller.
Sony needs a new Monster Hunter type game, a new IP that will generate new buyers for years. Miku has a small but loyal fan base, and it's not growing any bigger than it already is.
Constant steady releases of games will die out without a true system seller.
Canis lupus
Member
Those Vita sales...
This proves that there is potential. Hopefully that MH game is coming soon.
This proves that there is potential. Hopefully that MH game is coming soon.
Nightstick11
Banned
Pleased to see Devil Survivor do well.
And WOW at those PSPV numbers
And WOW at those PSPV numbers
People will still be saying this a year from now, won't they?
I wish there was a new Devil Survivor game
That's "Devil Summoners: Soul Hackers" btw. Different sub series of Shin Megami Tensei.
I would say they have a preference for actually appealing looking characters in their games instead of SD Chibi characters. You may be forgetting that a popular series on an unpopular console can get people to buy the console just to play the game and then sell both back in a week for good % return. (See: Blue Dragon) If they'd have put this game on 3DS, it probably would've done a lot better than Mirai. PSP versions did very well and 3DS can easily do PSP visuals, so it's not like they needed HD for the handheld version, just the real characters.
AK48+Mii is going to do horribly next to the other AK48 games for the same reason. Most of the buyers of the game want to look at the girls, not the super-deformed Mii representations of them. Not sure what about Nintendo systems makes publisher go "Hey we got the really pretty girl game on this other system that sells well, so let's SD the girls into nearly unrecognizable forms on the Nintendo system and see if it sells as well!"
Edit:
I suppose the reasoning is to try to appeal these series to a higher % female audience by removing the focus on their looks, but when it seems like the primary appeal of the game is the looks of the girls, that would seem to be a kind of silly test to run.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yeah, can't wait to see MH4 bring the 3DS to monster highs. Will the game sell 3 million? 4 million? The sky's the limit
As for the Vita, I do hope it does well. It goes to show that putting games for your market sells.
While I agree with your sentiment, you can still end up will less sales.
I mean, it's not like Tales of Vesperia is a vastly inferior game to Tales of Xillia, and the Xbox 360 can definitely put out ~PS3 visuals, but the sales are notably different.
There are also definitely a lot of JRPG fans on DS, but that didn't make the DS games sell through the roof either.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
They probably didn't do PS3 Miku before because they didn't really need to. PSP was beasting while Project Diva was on it, so why spend those resources elsewhere?
PDf PS3 was pretty obviously a late term decision given it's releasing so much later than the Vita original, and I don't think it's too far out there to guess that it only happened because of the market prospects Vita found facing itself once it released. If the game sells better on PS3, I think the idea of Vita remaining the lowest common denominator going forward diminishes greatly... why not just go for a different successful and self-sustaining baseline (Arcade) and port assets from there (PS3, Wii U, iOS, etc)? Does limiting everything to a Vita baseline make sense if it can't justify it's own costs originally? Why limit PS3 in that scenario?
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I thought you expected the best series debut yet?
Yeah, it's not a 100% thing, but when the appeal of a game is apparently to look at the girls in the game (see SKBurst, this week), making them SD is going to cut that off at the knees.
Vesperia would be another example of a game that people probably bought a 360 just to play it. Vesperia sold 100K first week and quintupled 360 sales that week. Then the PS3 version came out and sold 228K it's first week a year later. Xillia's sales were immensely helped out by the FF audience then being fully on the system. Tales seems to have a strong history of doing better where the FF fanbase already is.
donny2112 said:
FFVII prequel announced pre-launch was a big bonus to the PSP FF fanbase.
Announcements will not keep the Vita above the 10k range. This is Persona 4 all over again.
Canis lupus
Member
Yeah, can't wait to see MH4 bring the 3DS to monster highs. Will the game sell 3 million? 4 million? The sky's the limit
As for the Vita, I do hope it does well. It goes to show that putting games for your market sells.
It will do amazing, but honestly 3DS is already rocking the sales, I'm not begrudging Vita same sales.
Delusibeta
Banned
I was under the impression that Yamaha released the base Vocaloid software, it fell flat on its face and was only revived after the fifth (?) third-party voice, which was Miku. Unless Yamaha turned around and bought Crypton (which is probably what happened, since apparently Miku is standard in all versions of Vocaloid; I'm just making an irrelevant post here), I don't think they have any right to anything.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think that MH4 has a very good chance to sell 4 million. 3DS is doing very well and MH4 is a brand new Monster Hunter portable game, first one since late 2010. I also think that there will be a 3DS bundle that isnt super limited, could boost sales even more.Yeah, can't wait to see MH4 bring the 3DS to monster highs. Will the game sell 3 million? 4 million? The sky's the limit
As for the Vita, I do hope it does well. It goes to show that putting games for your market sells.
FFVII prequel announced pre-launch was a big bonus to the PSP FF fanbase.
Tales came out on DS after Final Fantasy III did however. Unless I'm mistaken, that game sold more than Crisis Core.
For the rest, I wasn't saying AKB would sell better on 3DS, just that even if you make the game appealing in the normal sense, the platform can still have a notable impact.
Wonko_C
Member
The full version lets you use front, back or both at the same time.
Monster Hunter Frontier is not gonna help though.
I may be reading too much into it, but my understanding was that one of the big draws of Tales games were the high-quality video portions. That would follow post-FFVII games in focus compared to pre-FFVII games. Not that the PSP Tales spinoffs/remakes did hugely better than the DS "mothership" iterations, but the fact that spinoffs/remakes did significantly better than "mothership" titles (even if they were generally panned) says something about the fanbases on each console. I just don't attribute the fanbase differences to being mainly a Sony vs. Nintendo thing.
I don't feel it's the brand on the box, but what the companies tend to do that attract certain fanbases.
Like if Microsoft released a tiny console that was half as powerful as the Xbox 360 and focused on offline gaming, I feel most of their audience would evaporate.
However, since they focus on online and hardware power, that attracts a certain type of audience that will boost the sales of certain types of games even if they're just as good on PlayStation 3.
Once the bar has been moved though, I feel the new target platform has to meet that fanbase's expectations in order to generate interest from them.
Even if the Xbox 3 was far more powerful than the Xbox 1, that wouldn't really meet the Xbox 1's audience's expectations anymore.
I dont know if SE is in a position to forfeit that PS3 FFX HD money, for some reason they dont plan to put the title on 360....but as a PS Vita only ? I wont care since i planned on buying it on Vita from the start, but this doesnt sound like something SE would do. With the right push the title could end up selling + million in Japan alone on both consoles.