I love this guy. Never fails to entertain.
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EDGE: Why "increasingly frustrated journalists" need MS to reveal its new Xbox
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I love this guy. Never fails to entertain.
More like harmless gnats.
perineumlick
Member
Scribe on scribe crime is serious stuff dude.
Given how he blocks and ignores everyone who tries to point out his bullshit, if he's not blocking/ignoring you then you probably have issues that need to be reflected on.
stufte
Member
which was sorta reversed at the beginning of the last console cycle. Sony was cocky as hell with their reveal of the ps3, gave no fucks. Now look at where they are. MS seems to be making the same mistake.
Or maybe not, only time will tell.
shinobi602
Member
Right, but everything we're going off of is based on very reliable rumors from a ton of different places. It's not like a random poster came onto GAF months and made all that shit up. That's why everyone is taking these things so seriously, because they're coming from a lot of different sources all saying the same thing.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
agreed.
Microsoft needs to be Microsoft and not Microsoft trying to be like Apple.
really hurting their image right now.
Microsoft needs to be Microsoft and not Microsoft trying to be like Apple.
really hurting their image right now.
The difference is that we have no reason to suspect that MS's launch offering will be as worthless as Nintendo's, or that its OS and network infrastructure will be as incompetent.
With Nintendo, all that negativity was correct.
Even if MS charges $500 for an always-on box that doesn't allow used games, won't boot without a network connection, and red rings itself within a month, there will still be a lot of 3rd party support, and thus a lot of customers.
lol this guy...I swear he sounds like a parody account
Anywho a lot of developers aren't developing for the nextbox, just 'other next gen consoles' lmao
Xbudz
Member
True that. Polygon has big egos.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
360 was mentioned at GDC.
flyinpiranha
Member
I of course am basing my buying decision on what they reveal and games, but the rumors of no used games, always online requirement, and a stronger focus of 'services' coupled with what I've seen XBL and the interface evolve into after the release of Kinect is worrisome.
If you feel they haven't tarnished anything that is understandable. I don't like the approach and the 'sense' of where they're going right now. I actually sold my PS3 right after Uncharted 3 because there wasn't going to be any games I found interesting on it and was just going to jump into next gen. I actually wish I would have sold my 360 at this point because I've been really disappointed in their game output over the past couple years.
It's not only these rumors and announcements. It's a majority of things leading to this opinion and the recent rumors and leaks aren't helping.
Random personal reasons I am losing interest:
I liked my 360 for Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, and better 3rd party. With the recent developer announcements of ease of use with the PS4, the "better 3rd party" is probably a wash, Halo 4 started seeming like a CoD near the end, Fable is dead, Forza is solid, and Gears I grew tired of ... plus I don't want an always online, always Kinect enabled interface. I had Kinect, it was great at first but then realized that it would have to 'start' and take a little extra time, the mic would randomly pause movies on Netflix because it would think it heard "Xbox pause" and I never used it after the few initial games. I also don't like where the interface is going where it isn't customizable except for the 'pinned' titles (I loved folders on the PS3)
Plus I do not see the value in Live anymore. It was worth it for the time I paid for it, I got my money's worth and there was value. Not now. Things have changed.
Plus I do not see the value in Live anymore. It was worth it for the time I paid for it, I got my money's worth and there was value. Not now. Things have changed.
I mean, it's not JUST the rumors lately, it's been a year in the making of pushing me away from the Xbox brand. And now the rumors are primarily negative and it's not helping to convince me of a purchase.
BUT, at the end of the day, it's what is concrete, it's what games they have, it's what price and what they do with XBL and the interface that will sway me.
WrenchNinja
Member
Did Polygon ever report on Sweet Billy?
Angelus Errare
Banned
This basically. Just because Sony decided to talk about PS4 early does not mean Xbox is somehow ruined and will bomb. You people must have forgotten MS announced/showed off Xbox 360 May of 2005 right before E3, I didn't hear anyone going "herpa derpa, MS needs to hurry and announce it or Xbox is d00med! Dinosaurz lolol"
Father_Brain
Banned
He doesn't explicitly deny it, of course, but the first bolded bit is completely true according to EDGE's prior reporting - yet it's left out of his next paragraph, which describes "the truth" about how awesome Durango will be. It doesn't exactly come off as terribly objective.
Glorified G
Member
reading that while looking at your avatar made me lol.
Another one from me to him on twitter from last week with the debacle about Sweet Billy (Adam Orth) about a difference between a MMO and a Singleplayer game. This guy i mean,he is such a tool and not very smart to say the least. Because well he knows everything and other people don't. But blocking people does help right? I keep laughing on how he reacts and tries to turn it around.
There probably was some part of irony in that "The Truth?" and some parts of the first paragraph with exaggerated expressions. But still, he doesn't deny what EDGE said prior, and what's actually being said still now with brand new sources.
ChosenPredator
Banned
the amount of obsession he gets from gaf is even more disturbing
Agent Icebeezy
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I'm actually surprised a Microsoft product has been this secluded for so long. I mean, we all know it exists, but that's it.
That's a little different. Nintendo had announced a system but with little to go on. They stayed quiet and tried to move along without giving away how weak their lineup and system actually is.
With Microsoft however, the system doesn't technically exist outside of rumor. Yes, I know it does, but Microsoft has not made any sort of formal notion that it does. Right now we are playing a game of Mad Libs with an entire page of blank lines, there is no legitimate (see: straight from Microsoft) proof of anything. So anything that gets rumored at all is tossed up as the indefinite truth and people reply based on that.
I can see being a PR rep/ on the Xbox team for Microsoft could be hell right now as all these rumors sound terrible and you want to jump in and clarify but you can't. Given what has leaked, there is still a huge amount we don't know about the system.
statham
Member
lol, shots fired.
Another one from me to him on twitter from last week with the debacle about Sweet Billy (Adam Orth) about a difference between a MMO and a Singleplayer game. This guy i mean,he is such a tool and not very smart to say the least. Because well he knows everything and other people don't. But blocking people does help right? I keep laughing on how he reacts and tries to turn it around.
This guy.
I actually feel bad for him, he can't win a discussion to save his goddamn life.
They are still rumours though, as in not confirmed.
What does always on actually mean in context, how does it actually work, how recent is the information we have etc. are questions that remain unanswered. Details, in a word.
No matter how reliable the source, without details it's nowhere near enough to form an informed opinion and definitely not enough for outrage and hysteria.
D
Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
I think you guys are exaggerating. The rumors could be true, but we still don't know crap about the games. Remember that it's that what matters of the console. If turns out to be Kinect stuff, then we should complain.
What the heck. Jesus. He has got to be doing this on purpose.
Another one from me to him on twitter from last week with the debacle about Sweet Billy (Adam Orth) about a difference between a MMO and a Singleplayer game. This guy i mean,he is such a tool and not very smart to say the least. Because well he knows everything and other people don't. But blocking people does help right? I keep laughing on how he reacts and tries to turn it around.
What the heck. Jesus. He has got to be doing this on purpose.
BlazingDarkness
Member
That meltdown thread just then was delicious.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Wahhhhh
Xbudz
Member
That is why I dusted off Xbox Jesus. Was locked so fast.
It has reached Pachter status. I find it entertaining as long as people don't attack the person, just what they say.
That and Nintendo made mistakes.
Like the lack of additional tablet controllers? The lack of games? They announced so long ago and had nothing to show for it
Unlike Microsoft who will be throwing everything at us...
Ploid 3.0
Member
"Microsoft needs to find a way to make you like what they are serving."
Agent Icebeezy
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Hmm, confident.
He knew he could have gone mad since the other thread when he tried to tell us his version of Thrutton's words.
...About that: where are you Warren? I need a clarification about your Stingray's quote: when you said "Stingray's information and price" you were talking about Stingray's price too or about Durango's price? Where are you?!?
No, it's not particularly objective, but it is the way he sidesteps any real denial/retraction there. After all, MS will never completely abandon core gamers like he says...that may still mean the vast majority have moved on, but MS will totally still be there for the ones who stay.
DragonSworne
Banned
Yet, MS aren't throwing everything at us and have shown all signs that gaming is not as important this time around as the other functionality that will come with the box.
Seriously, you guys are giving MS the benefit of the doubt for no compelling reason. Just look to Surface and Windows 8 to get an idea of what MS will do to Xbox.
Everyone who likes MS is derided on GAF, think it's just hyperbole? Ask yourself, why doesn't che chou post as much as he used to, or Dennis Dyack, or cliffyb, or pretty much any other person related to ms?
His opinions don't offend me, guess I gotta examine myself.
pants
Member
We really need to stop giving him attention.
FieryBalrog
Member
Running almost entirely on decades old revenue platforms, one of which they have kind of fucked up recently (that would be Windows 8).
Was going to post the same thing. Microsoft isn't doing anything different this time around. They've got a schedule of Announce/E3/Launch lead up. It worked really well with the 360, so they're just following that again.
R3TRODYCE
Member
Be calm, it is coming.
That's awesome.
Father_Brain
Banned
I actually like Gies' writing, along with his willingness to openly call out sexism, homophobia, and questionable racial politics in gaming (even if he has white-knighted for some dubious causes, as in the case of the Mojang debacle), but he's doing a fantastic job of destroying his own credibility.
DragonSworne
Banned
Dennis Dyack is banned for a good reason and CliffyB doesn't post for other reasons, too damn bad ***********!!
You mean by bolstering the amount of internal studios and bolstering the amount of first party published games? We don't know what we are getting exactly but gaming is coming back to the forefront
People keep associating their drift in first party IPs as focusing on other things like media. Actually it's due to the losses finally catching up to them and they had to make the entire division profitable. So risk assessment was far more strict.
Now xbox is a profit monster, they are going to be doubling down on every area. Trust me.
And per your edit, I'm not giving MS the benefit of the doubt, I just know better.
tfur
Member
shinobi602
Member
I don't think any rational person here has completely written the console off. Everyone here is going off of reliable rumors, again, reliable, which makes all the difference. Most are extremely negative here, but would easily change their tune if Microsoft comes out and says all the bad shit we've heard are false.
Use your best judgement. If you want to completely dismiss rumors that have come from very reliable sources in the past, that is certainly your prerogative.
If I've taken anything from the way Microsoft is operating as a whole the last few years is that when they announce a product they will detail the shit out of it. Watch the Surface announcement, I was hyped as hell for the thing because of how well they actually went over the thing. The issue there was it took 9 months to release it.
Nintendo is still in a weird state where I feel like they think gaming is still kind of secretive in how everything works. They give you the superficial facts but avoid at all costs describing the technology powering the system. Its like they expect people not to care how powerful a system is, just that it plays games and where were at now with technology evolving so quickly, its the exact opposite.