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ElTorro said:
Should be "gamers".
ElTorro said:
I remember Ben from Ars when he was Stasis7.Gemüsepizza;61804784 said:
Yes, its a nu start.It sucks, but it sucks less than before. I still have issues with the Kinect and 24 hour check though, this is at least a start.
Truth right here.No, the used games "problem" in the industry is us shitty consumers.
@XboxSupport
So I guess private sales are still somehow possible? What a mess.
@XboxSupport
So I guess private sales are still somehow possible? What a mess.
I don't get it.
and there are millions that do. I don't think there are that many people without a broadband connection and honestly, it's painfully obvious that Microsoft isn't targeting them anyways, so I don't see the big deal. the xbone is a luxury good. by definition they're going to be exclusive in some way.
Please explain to me oh benevolent video game journalist god, how these policies from lord Microsoft are good for me, the peasant.
Gemüsepizza;61804784 said:
SMH.Gemüsepizza;61804784 said:
Gemüsepizza;61804784 said:
It is and it isn't really. A lot of people will just shop directly on Steam without bothering to look at CD key website or Green Man Gaming or whatever other competitive shop is on offer. Though the thing is, they all tie back into Steam. Most modern PC games are being made to utilise Steam's cloud, achievements and social aspects. They are all on Steam, with no ability to take them off of Steam.Except steam is on a open platform with lots of other competing services where as the xbox is a closed platform no competition at all from anyone else to drive game prices down.
I think that not everyone has realized that Microsoft's form of always online DRM means that you (the consumer) never own your Xbone or any of the games your purchase.
Your Xbone and purchased games (whether in physical or digital form) are pure rentals and can be revoked by Microsoft at anytime for any reason. Please read the fine print in the Xbone EULA/TOS when it launches. When you do, you will see that Microsoft reserves the right to deactivate your Xbone and cancel your Live account at anytime for any reason.
Because you don't own your Xbone or your games, Microsoft gets to control how and when you can use the device.
Some example scenarios of how Xbone could work:
1) 5 years from now Microsoft launches Xbox Two and announces that they will continue service for Xbone for 3 more years. So in 2021 (8 years from now) your Xbone automatically becomes a paperweight and no longer plays games unless you upgrade to Xbox Two.
2) EA Launches FIFA 14 on Nov 1, 2013. You buy it. On Nov. 1, 2014 EA launches FIFA 15. Your copy of FIFA 14 automatically deactivates on Nov. 1, 2014, unless you buy FIFA 15.
Since Microsoft can remotely deactivate your Xbone at any time, the sky is the limit on what they might come up with in the future. And they can apply stuff retroactively, without any issues, since you clicked "ACCEPT" on the EULA/TOS.
@XboxSupport
So I guess private sales are still somehow possible? What a mess.
PC games now a days are like 50% cheaper than consoles....on DAY fucking ONE.
When I can get Bioshock 1 & 2 for $5, I dont give no fucks if I cant resell it. (I actually paid $5 for those two games plus Duke 3D so 3 games for $5 ha!)
PC digital distribution >>>>>>>>> Console DD. Simple as that. No comparisons. So when MS forces DD on their console, this shit is bad because prices wont be this cheap. Never in the next 5-10 years will you get HALO 5 XB1 digital version for $5 on Xbox market place. I can guarantee that.
come at me microsoft
I want to ask something (if I can survive the post assault). Given that yosp has said that the PS4 can be enjoyed completely offline ("old school"), how is it possible for Sony to implement ANYTHING of all these. Am I wrong to be optimistic about it?
Essentially is not the same as actually. I agree that every 24 hours may as well be "always-online" but it is not actually "always-online". The point being that Sony can say the PS4 is not "always-online" and still implement an identical system.
Damn did he get banned for this? We ain't playing right now?
Was it ever mentioned that EA sports games will have timed exclusivity on X1.
Wish people would be more consistent in displaying their rage over the deliverance of information.
MS policies unclear - Rage, anger, hate
Sony policies unclear - Oh well, they are just letting MS take the hits, wait til E3
You had my curiosity MS. But now you have my attention.
People are complaining that they will go to PC if Xbox implements this. PC has an even worse drm policy than this. WTF! Makes no sense.
Can't wait til Sony reveals their policy. Gonna be so much backtracking here, its gonna make your head spin.
Jaffe loves it too. All publishers and developers are actually celebrating right now. Having champagne parties. MS has saved the industry.
Another poor decision by Sony. Developers not going to care about utilizing it if its not with each system.
Nice find. Did you check out the video at the 9:17 mark? Wow!
I'm sorry Dave, but it appears your daughter Jenny is not a genetic match. Access denied...They really drive home the "family" designation. I wonder how they'll be authenticating "family." I hope it's with Kinect. Facial recognition. Lol. That would be hilarious.
Yes... that is what I kind of said ^^You can't play any game during that time.
You do not lend your game. You go to your friend with your account and you can play with him on your account. When you go to home he won't be able to play that game if you log into your account @ home.
That is how it was described earlier by MS exec
•Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.
Sorry if this has been asked already, but does this mean you have to install the game on your friend's console in order to play it? Or do you just sign in and play it via the cloud storage?
Go into his post history, straight up MS shill.
And my personal favorite, RE Sony not bundling the camera with every system (IE what pretty much every GAFfer wants to keep the price of the PS4 down)
The funny stuff are the parts MS thinks are "good" and "nice", which are not there at launch and maybe never will.
Maybe they just add this stuff, which will be not ready at launch, just to the list to generate less rage until people just forget all this and MS never release this stuff.
But for me the worse part is still min. req. of 1.5Mbps!
There are millions here in germany with 1Mbps or less :/
Why the hell i need 1.5mbps for online gaming?
I understand that, but the rights you lose by going digital is the same. You have similar restrictions and the more people tell companies that those restrictions are ok, the faster we're going to move towards that model. You don't think any of the digital distribution and DRM that came before the Xbox One are reasons why we're seeing what we are now? People have shown in the past that it's acceptable.
Because on ps4 EA would be competing with games that don't have activation codes or always online.
And regarding always online, every console has this. Even the ps2 has always online games.
There's just no good reason not to allow consumers to play single player games offline for as long as they want.
There's simply no way to spin that.
I agree. I bet they're banking on the fact that you'll want to play with your friends for multiplayer and thus this won't be a solution for that.
Honestly, as much shit as there is in these new policies, the 10 person white list of sharing a library is the one true perk that came out of all of this IMO. Once you understand what you can and can't do, it's actually kind of nice.
I've seen through the end of season 2 of Game of Thrones, as those are the only episodes up for digital purchase.Can we ban the people spoiling Game of Thrones? It's kind of annoying.
Alright, let's do thisSteam is different though because stuff is cheaper!