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[Salvadora]

Messi and Ronaldo are the only two you could say absolutely are but then it gets muddy. There are many at a similar level after that and Bale is on equal footing to all of them. I would not consider Falcao, Cavani nor RVP to be better.

I couldn't disagree more, Meier.

Bale has had an incredible season no doubt, but to talk about him in the same breath as Iniesta and co is flat out wrong (at the moment).

 

[Slizz]

I know they're in bloody USA. Doesn't change the fact he loves us more than you <3

Well he's not visiting you. You are visiting him...

 

[bjaelke]

Messi and Ronaldo are the only two you could say absolutely are but then it gets muddy. There are many at a similar level after that and Bale is on equal footing to all of them. I would not consider Falcao, Cavani nor RVP to be better.

EASILY.

Someone should look up their FM stats and see who has the highest median score.

 

[Wilbur]

Lol both those pics with Beckham are in the US. One in LA where Beckham was playing for the Galaxy.

Pulga doesn't know anything about football though

"who is isco, what does he do, what nationality is he"

 

[Timurid]

Pulga doesn't know anything about football though

"who is isco, what does he do, what nationality is he"

He doesn't even watch football. He probably can name the starting 11 for Barca, but not for rube. :lol :lol :lol

 

[kingellesar]

I hope its United Madrid in the CL again this season

 

[Wilbur]

The problem is, when someone slates Moyes/our transfer business, we all go "yeah we're fucking everything up"

I criticise the Bale deal and its "oh what are you jealous because we spend more on one welsh man than the entirety of sudan spend on food in a decade"

Hubris to a gargantuan degree

 

[Meier]

I couldn't disagree more, Meier.

Bale has had an incredible season no doubt, but to talk about him in the same breath as Iniesta and co is flat out wrong (at the moment).

Iniesta is probably "better" than him -- that's why I said 4th or 5th for Bale. But they play different positions so a direct comparison between Iniesta and Bale is superfluous as is a comparison between Bale and Thiago Silva.

I can tell you that if I had to build my team around a player, I'd take Bale over Iniesta every day of the week though (and not just because he's much younger).

 

[KidA Seven]

So we're a disgraceful institution because we actually earn our money, and have enough to spend a fuck load of it in order to bring the best players in the world to our club?

Huh? Your post reeks of salt. Must suck that for all of your recent succeses, players will ALWAYS prefer to come to Madrid. Just the way the world spins, Cuntbury. Should be used to it by now after your two biggest stars said "fuck you" to your cumstain of a club to join ours.

It's funny, because you've elevated Madrid to some god like entity to look down at United, you also insulted Juventus.

 

[Suen]

A player--any player--is worth whatever the hell the buying party is willing to pay. No one has the right to determine how much anyone, club or individual owner, should spend on a player.

We can disagree with the amount, but that changes nothing. Everyone is going to have their own evaluation for every deal.

and some evaluation are straight out shit. If a buying party pays an insane amount of money for an average-to-shit player

Spoiler

(Hulk-Zenit)

it's not because the player is worth that much, it's because the buying party are a bunch of idiots. You are right that all of us have our own evaluation but there's a limit to that and once you cross that limit it's nothing but ridiculous.

If I'd go by your words then Perez should be worshipped on a fucking altar everyday.

 

[panty]

No one watches the AC Milan - Sao Paulo game?

 

[Naughty God]

Beckham still visits us. Does he even remember where Old Trafford is?

LOL!

Becks is actually a diehard United supporter since he was a kid.

His parents were fanatical Manchester United supporters who would frequently travel to Old Trafford from London to attend the team's home matches. David inherited his parents' love of Manchester United, and his main sporting passion was football.

 

[Wilbur]

Iniesta is probably "better" than him -- that's why I said 4th or 5th for Bale. But they play different positions so a direct comparison between Iniesta and Bale is superfluous as is a comparison between Bale and Thiago Silva.

I can tell you that if I had to build my team around a player, I'd take Bale over Iniesta every day of the week though (and not just because he's much younger).

I can't agree that Bale is a better player than someone like Vidal or RVP who are doing enough for their clubs so that they actually challenge domestically, or someone like Iniesta who proves pivotal in world cup finals. He's an amazing player and like I said, top 15/20 in the world. But he isn't that good yet.

 

[Timurid]

No one watches the AC Milan - Sao Paulo game?

No one cares about Bilan.

 

[Fergie]

No one watches the AC Milan - Sao Paulo game?

It's background noise for me.


Killer, give me 10-15mins bro, I'll be on. Got caught up a bit.

 

[Randdalf]

Gervinho to be the 12th Doctor

#believe

 

[bjaelke]

No one watches the AC Milan - Sao Paulo game?

I'd rather watch Colin Todd getting his arse handed to him by Rubin.

 

[Suen]

No one watches the AC Milan - Sao Paulo game?

I am and it's shit. Where's the Shawarma goals

 

[Turok_TTZ]

You earn your money by being part of a corrupt duopoly that hinders the rest of your domestic league. You earn your money by purchasing players as much for marketing success as for on pitch success. This season I've said a fair few times that Madrid's transfer business has been fucking top; young, Spanish stars in problem areas.

But the Bale deal? It reeks of self indulgence. It bathes in self indulgence. It fucking ejaculates and licks up its cum, every little sperm baby a drop of self indulgence. It isn't a transfer that makes tactical sense, business sense or sense for your team harmony. It isn't a transfer that does anything other than ensure you have Ronaldo's monkey spirit guide on the other side and ensure that Perez can go back to stroking his own fucking helmet over all the greatness he brings to Real Madrid.

And until transfers of this magnitude fail, until a club like Real Madrid is brought to its knees through the mountainous debt it has, through the failed youth systems that supply players to other teams after a string of broken promises, through the endless hiring and firing of managers, buying and selling of players, media arguments, in fighting, betrayals... then it won't fucking stop.

hahahhahaaha this we do not have. so much salt in the bolded. I know your frustration wilbur. Manutd are paying the debts of the glazers with little chance of escaping instead of making big signings. you have my condolences but that is what happens when the fans do not own their club.

Real madrid has iirc at highest around 130m in debt owed and are paying off in a steady rate. within a couple of years from now we will be debt free! Not sure on farsa.

 

[Meier]

I can't agree that Bale is a better player than someone like Vidal or RVP who are doing enough for their clubs so that they actually challenge domestically, or someone like Iniesta who proves pivotal in world cup finals. He's an amazing player and like I said, top 15/20 in the world. But he isn't that good yet.

Vidal and RVP are great players but they're not doing it alone by any means. If Bale had the same supporting cast as those players or even one that was remotely comparable, I think you'd be singing a different tune regarding his relation to them. I don't subscribe to Spurs being a "one man team" but they weren't far from it. With a more capable and consistent strike force, Spurs would have won a few more games last year and challenged for 2nd at least.

 

[pulga]

You earn your money by being part of a corrupt duopoly that hinders the rest of your domestic league. You earn your money by purchasing players as much for marketing success as for on pitch success. This season I've said a fair few times that Madrid's transfer business has been fucking top; young, Spanish stars in problem areas.

And what's wrong with signing good players with marketing potential that helps us pay back whatever the fuck we spent for them? You fuckers probably have " Official United Toilet Paper" by now, not ones to be talking about having quirky business models.

But the Bale deal? It reeks of self indulgence. It bathes in self indulgence. It fucking ejaculates and licks up its cum, every little sperm baby a drop of self indulgence. It isn't a transfer that makes tactical sense, business sense or sense for your team harmony. It isn't a transfer that does anything other than ensure you have Ronaldo's monkey spirit guide on the other side and ensure that Perez can go back to stroking his own fucking helmet over all the greatness he brings to Real Madrid.

He's one of the top five players in the world. How the fuck is signing one of the best players in the world bad? You guys might be into the "selling the best players in the world business", but we've got more respect than that.

Doesn't make tactical sense? We'll see. Can't judge it yet.
Business sense? The monkey will earn his share back on shirts alone.
Harmony? Fucking LOL! You a Madrid locker room insider now?

And until transfers of this magnitude fail, until a club like Real Madrid is brought to its knees through the mountainous debt it has, through the failed youth systems that supply players to other teams after a string of broken promises, through the endless hiring and firing of managers, buying and selling of players, media arguments, in fighting, betrayals... then it won't fucking stop.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn. What's United vs Madrid's debt again? Genuinely dont know, but it's gonna be hilarious if you salty cunts owe more.

Were the two biggest stars Ronaldo and Beckham? Lol we wanted Beckham out and he was going to go to Barca before they signed Ronaldinho, so lets not pretend that you gazumped any offer and he was mesmerised by the Bernabeu... and Ronaldo? Ronaldo's going to leave you guys because he hates it so much :lol. He misses Manchester. MANCHESTER. That's how shit your club is.

You're fucking delusional if you think Ronaldo is going back to Manchester. He'll fuck off to Paris or Monaco before that happens.

 

[Timurid]

What happened to that Gai Assulin kid from Barca? Last I heard he went to City.

 

[K1LLER7]

Fergie let me know when your on. Send me a message on PSN.

Oh and Fuck Madrid.

 

[LTWheels]

Might as well watch the opening of BT Sport.

 

[Naughty God]

April 2013:

1. Real Madrid £600million
2. Manchester United £359.7million (All Glazer debt lumped onto the club)
3. Barcelona £369.5million
4. Arsenal £104million
5. Bayern Munich- NO DEBT they have been in profit ever since the 2011-12 season.
6. AC Milan £298.8million
7. Chelsea- NO DEBT they made a profit of 1.2million dated April 10th 2013
8. Juventus £48.65million
9. Manchester City- NO DEBT but have yet to release their profit margins
10. Liverpool £237million

 

[Wilbur]

hahahhahaaha this we do not have. so much salt in the bolded. I know your frustration wilbur. Manutd are paying the debts of the glazers with little chance of escaping instead of making big signings. you have my condolences but that is what happens when the fans do not own their club.

Real madrid has iirc at highest around 130m in debt owed and are paying off in a steady rate. within a couple of years from now we will be debt free! Not sure on farsa.

Yeah, United fucking sucks. So does Madrid.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/truth-about-debt-at-barcelona-and-real.html

It's less than I thought, but its not just Madrid. It's your entire league, and two teams in that league are making it harder for clubs to come out of debt. It's a despicable business practise, if ruthless.

 

[Mr.Marston]

I hope its United Madrid in the CL again this season

Have United ever actually knocked Madrid out of the CL?

 

[ShogunX]

I can't agree that Bale is a better player than someone like Vidal or RVP who are doing enough for their clubs so that they actually challenge domestically, or someone like Iniesta who proves pivotal in world cup finals. He's an amazing player and like I said, top 15/20 in the world. But he isn't that good yet.

Isn't it fair to say that the players you list all have better player surrounding them than Bale does? If it wasn't for his multiple late wonder goals I'm pretty sure Spurs would be enjoying the middle of the table with us last season.

Maybe a lack of any meaningful football and the sight of Moyesies boggly bug eyes have made you grouchy.

 

[Plasma]

Apparently Liverpool have bid for Diego Costa, Suarez off then?

 

[pulga]

It's funny, because you've elevated Madrid to some god like entity to look down at United, you also insulted Juventus.

Pfffft. Juventus has 31 league titles to United's 20. 2 CLs vs 3.

Juventus are the bigger club. Suck on it.

 

[TheLucifer]

Petagna is looking really good, I think he'll replace Pazzini without any trouble. Vergara too.

Boring game so far, though.

 

[Naughty God]

Have United ever actually knocked Madrid out of the CL?

Out of the European Cup, but not CL.

 

[Turok_TTZ]

Except Bale does not have that marketing potential pulga. And what is worse is when he didn't have a team built around him, bale was a fucking scrub. I already know how bale is gonna turn out in madrid. CR7 is the man in madrid and bale would do best to not get in his way.

 

[Mr.Marston]

April 2013:

4. Arsenal £104million

T_T

 

[Yurt]

Soldado:"Valencia president has lied to me many times, he has hurt me. I'm going because I don't have faith in this project, nor this president."

 

[dc89]

BT Sport is live in t minus 5 seconds

 

[Mr.Marston]

Out of the European Cup, but not CL.

Ah, ok.

 

[pulga]

April 2013:

1. Real Madrid £600million
2. Manchester United £359.7million (All Glazer debt lumped onto the club)
3. Barcelona £369.5million
4. Arsenal £104million
5. Bayern Munich- NO DEBT they have been in profit ever since the 2011-12 season.
6. AC Milan £298.8million
7. Chelsea- NO DEBT they made a profit of 1.2million dated April 10th 2013
8. Juventus £48.65million
9. Manchester City- NO DEBT but have yet to release their profit margins
10. Liverpool £237million

lololololol at least source your complete bullshit numbers.

Except Bale does not have that marketing potential pulga. And what is worse is when he didn't have a team built around him, bale was a fucking scrub. I already know how bale is gonna turn out in madrid. CR7 is the man in madrid and bale would do best to not get in his way.

He's the face of the whole fucking PL. We'll make it work.

 

[Timurid]

Pfffft. Juventus has 31 league titles to United's 20. 2 CLs vs 3.

Juventus are the bigger club. Suck on it.

Actually 29.

 

[Yurt]

April 2013:

1. Real Madrid £600million
2. Manchester United £359.7million (All Glazer debt lumped onto the club)
3. Barcelona £369.5million
4. Arsenal £104million
5. Bayern Munich- NO DEBT they have been in profit ever since the 2011-12 season.
6. AC Milan £298.8million
7. Chelsea- NO DEBT they made a profit of 1.2million dated April 10th 2013
8. Juventus £48.65million
9. Manchester City- NO DEBT but have yet to release their profit margins
10. Liverpool £237million

Oh hey not too shabby.

Petagna is looking really good, I think he'll replace Pazzini without any trouble. Vergara too.

Boring game so far, though.

Bad Luck Pazzini. He's fourth choice now, isn't he?

 

[LTWheels]

Not sure about Jake's shirt.

 

[bud]

pulga stfu and post pics of your mum :3

 

[Meier]

Apparently Ljajic is stilling on an extension and now City may make a run at him. I know we were interested in Pjanic before but I don't think we've been linked to Ljajic until recently. I think it's in his best interest to extend with Fiorentina.. they have a pretty exciting team even minus Jovetic.

Would be nice to snag him but I don't think we have room really. Absolutely have to sell before we can buy any position but CB at this point IMO..

 

[KidA Seven]

Pfffft. Juventus has 31 league titles to United's 20. 2 CLs vs 3.

Juventus are the bigger club. Suck on it.

Why are you comparing Juventus to United in league titles? They play in different leagues.


And why are you comparing Juventus to United in the first place? Compare Juventus to Real Madrid because you were bragging about Real Madrid being so much bigger than every other club (United and Juventus) in the world. You basically insulted your 2nd club.

 

[Wilbur]

And what's wrong with signing good players with marketing potential that helps us pay back whatever the fuck we spent for them? You fuckers probably have " Official United Toilet Paper" by now, not ones to be talking about having quirky business models.

"You earn your money by being part of a corrupt duopoly that hinders the rest of your domestic league", cheers 4 ignorin m8

And I'm not talking about quirky business models. You brought up Beckham; he became part of the Galactico project. That had nothing to do with team cohesion, it was all about buying the best players because apparently that was a guarantee of success and in turn would sell more shit. Comparing United having a bunch of sponsorships and Madrid buying players largely for commercial gain is not the same thing.

He's one of the top five players in the world. How the fuck is signing one of the best players in the world bad? You guys might be into the "selling the best players in the world business", but we've got more respect than that.

Doesn't make tactical sense? We'll see. Can't judge it yet.
Business sense? The monkey will earn his share back on shirts alone.
Harmony? Fucking LOL! You a Madrid locker room insider now?

Again, disagree on him being one of the top five players in the world (especially when you don't have any of the top five strikers, defenders or midfielders in the world and you're just stacking wingers).

It doesn't make much tactical sense compared to what you have already. You have Ronaldo, whose flaws are ignored because he's literally capable of carrying a team by himself. You have Ozil who does so much between the lines that he's not the type of player you want to be defending. And then you have Di Maria, who unselfishly does his work on the right and lets the other two do their thing. You then have Alonso and Khedira who do their fair share of defensive work. But now? There's formations by Madrid fans in here being posted with Isco playing defensive midfield aside Modric, and no Di Maria. It throws stuff out of joint. It won't fucking matter to you guys because the very worst you are coming is second so you can all pretend that you've had a mildly successful season, but it won't be better than it was two seasons ago.

Business sense? 100m transfers sets a precedent, Pulga. Come on.

Harmony? Was last year's bullshit with Casillas, Ronaldo, Ramos all just a wittle lie by the pwess? No, come fucking off it. Shit happened. As soon as you start spending 100m on people and giving them huge transfers and benching others, shit starts happening again.

You're fucking delusional if you think Ronaldo is going back to Manchester. He'll fuck off to Paris or Monaco before that happens.

And I don't think he's coming back. Never said he will. But he misses the place while he's at your shithouse of a club.

 

[Suen]

Apparently Liverpool have bid for Diego Costa, Suarez off then?

The Atletico player? What a downgrade lol.

 

[dc89]

April 2013:

1. Real Madrid £600million
2. Manchester United £359.7million (All Glazer debt lumped onto the club)
3. Barcelona £369.5million
4. Arsenal £104million
5. Bayern Munich- NO DEBT they have been in profit ever since the 2011-12 season.
6. AC Milan £298.8million
7. Chelsea- NO DEBT they made a profit of 1.2million dated April 10th 2013
8. Juventus £48.65million
9. Manchester City- NO DEBT but have yet to release their profit margins
10. Liverpool £237million

We don't need to make profit. We'll just sign massive corporate deals so we can sign massive players.

 

[Salvadora]

Isn't it fair to say that the players you list all have better player surrounding them than Bale does? If it wasn't for his multiple late wonder goals I'm pretty sure Spurs would be enjoying the middle of the table with us last season.

Maybe a lack of any meaningful football and the sight of Moyesies boggly bug eyes have made you grouchy.

Van Persie arguably didn't when he single-handedly pulled Arsenal to third.

Anyway, the fact that they stand out in better squads stands testament to their talent.

 

[pulga]

Yeah, United fucking sucks. So does Madrid.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/truth-about-debt-at-barcelona-and-real.html

It's less than I thought, but its not just Madrid. It's your entire league, and two teams in that league are making it harder for clubs to come out of debt. It's a despicable business practise, if ruthless.

So you're telling me you're deeper in the hole than we are?

EL-OH-FUCKIN-EL

Why are you comparing Juventus to United in league titles? They play in different leagues.


And why are you comparing Juventus to United in the first place? Compare Juventus to Real Madrid because you were bragging about Real Madrid being so much bigger than every other club (United and Juventus) in the world. You basically insulted your 2nd club.

Real Madrid is bigger than Juventus. So what? I still love Juve as much as Madrid. Where's the insult? Im not a fucking crybaby like you guys who can't face the facts, and even resort to making complete BS up like Naughty God up there.

 

[bjaelke]

The Atletico player? What a downgrade lol.

He's not a replacement.