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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)

Glass Rebel

Glass Rebel

Member
Bruno MB said:
It wasn't overstocked, initial shipment was practically sold in its third week. Youkai Watch has constantly been restocked so the demand is still high.
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Ah, thanks. That's neat. The first Inazuma Eleven started at 41k and ended up breaking 400k. The market has changed and I doubt YW is going to have the same legs, especially with Pokémon cutting into them, but this might be a new franchise for L-5. I wonder how much the anime is going to push sales.
 
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QaaQer

Member
Ratrat said:
It's tiv is up to ¥4100 now.
Does it make sense that if would fluctuate like this or was it an error?
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Makes more sense. I'm pretty sure it is an algorithm, so they may have just had an influx of used games, so fluctuation. It would be worrying if it stayed at ¥400. Reviews can be ignored.
 
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BriBri

Member
Regarding Youkai Watch: I think word-of-mouth is probably more significant in Japan than in the West (not that it can't still be valuable in the West because it can and is), and it is a good game playing like a Pokémon meets Earthbound with cute ghosts.

Regarding Amazon: if it's anything like Amazon UK then you don't even need to buy the product to rate it 1 star and write a shitty review. Plus some people that do actually buy the products are idiots such as Layton 3D getting 1 star because "it doesn't play on my son's DS".
 
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BriBri

Member
I received a response from Nintendo UK regarding download cards comprising eShop charts:-

Dear Brian,

Thank you for your email.

Nintendo has no official announcement about your query at this time.

We therefore apologize as we are unable to help you further, however you can keep updated for any further announcements or updates directly from us by signing up to our newsletter at www.nintendo.co.uk or by subscribing to the Official Nintendo Magazine, or alternatively by turning on your 'Home Notifications' on the Nintendo 3DS. Additionally you can find further information and updates using the Nintendo Wii U and Miiverse application.

We hope this information helps you out, and we wish you a happy gaming experience.

Kind Regards

I'll withhold the name!
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So I guess we don't know just how solid Animal Crossing's hold on the eShop chart is.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Amazon is not so important in terms of sales (in a M-C thread), imagine how important it is for review stars LOL
MH4 will not bomb, but I firmly believe that MHP3 records will still be set in stone
Yokai watch and Fantasy life are two new precious IPs for L5
 
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duckroll

Member
The legs for Yokai Watch are really good, but I think the real test will be what Level5 does with the franchise moving forward. Even if the game keeps selling, it's probably only going to hit 300k+ eventually at best. Good for a new IP, especially given how Level5's other franchises have suffered, but building off the word of mouth and the launch of the TV series next year is going to be vital. The next entry has to do much better, similar to how Inazuma really took off with the second entry.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
duckroll said:
The legs for Yokai Watch are really good, but I think the real test will be what Level5 does with the franchise moving forward. Even if the game keeps selling, it's probably only going to hit 300k+ eventually at best. Good for a new IP, especially given how Level5's other franchises have suffered, but building off the word of mouth and the launch of the TV series next year is going to be vital. The next entry has to do much better, similar to how Inazuma really took off with the second entry.
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You are right.
Even if we should also remember that IE was the first RPG new IP to hit the million mark in..what, more than a decade?
I think that even a smaller success would still be a success (of course if the second will sell as the first, after the anime release something will be wrong)
 
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Elfteiroh

Member
deathcobra said:
I received a response from Nintendo UK regarding download cards comprising eShop charts:-


So I guess we don't know just how solid Animal Crossing's hold on the eShop chart is.
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This is probably the most generic answer he could have given you! xD Smells of copy-paste.

Also, for Youkai Watch, After pokemon, it should drop, but I think that when the Anime will start, we should see a bump in it's sales. Could be interesting.

Arg, I really want to play that game!
 
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mclem

Member
Untalkative_Bunny said:
Can anyone actually in Japan comment? The reviews could be trolls, but the trade in value is insanely low.
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Do they claim to have any *stock* via trade-ins?

How is said price set, anyway? Is it possible that Capcom/Nintendo have offered favourable terms to Amazon if they keep the tradein value low for a few weeks?
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
hongcha said:
Looks like Japanese are trading in this game in large numbers, judging by amazon.co.jp only offering 454 yen ($4.50) trade-in value for it today:

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I have never seen such a low trade-in value for a game upon release. For reference, most games that are in demand are offered for trade-in value up to or even over their MSRP in the first week of release, unless there are mass trade-ins. Even today, popular Nintendo 3DS games command trade-in values upwards of 2000 yen, months or even years after their release.

Could this be a sign that the used market will be flooded this week, which might in turn affect sales of new copies?
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There can only be one explanation for this.....CRAPCOM.
 
Glass Rebel

Glass Rebel

Member
deathcobra said:
Regarding Youkai Watch: I think word-of-mouth is probably more significant in Japan than in the West (not that it can't still be valuable in the West because it can and is), and it is a good game playing like a Pokémon meets Earthbound with cute ghosts.
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duckroll said:
The legs for Yokai Watch are really good, but I think the real test will be what Level5 does with the franchise moving forward. Even if the game keeps selling, it's probably only going to hit 300k+ eventually at best. Good for a new IP, especially given how Level5's other franchises have suffered, but building off the word of mouth and the launch of the TV series next year is going to be vital. The next entry has to do much better, similar to how Inazuma really took off with the second entry.
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Thinking about it, placing the anime in 2014 wasn't such a stupid idea. Pokémon will probably dominate the next few months so it's probably better to wait it out until it has died off at least a little bit.

It is a bit of a shame that even if they manage to replicate their success they had with Layton/Inazuma Eleven, its chances in the West are fairly low. Layton was pretty big and IE sold over 2m across the first two generations and the Wii game. Nintendo will never publish it as it'd compete with Pokémon and Namco Bandai... well, it's been over 5 years since the last Digimon game in North America or Europe.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
The_lascar said:
I think it's less stupid than placing the whole anime before the release of the game like they currently did with Inazuma Eleven and Danball Senki.
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IE anime was released after the first videogame was out.
That game sold 40k at the debut, than the anime hit later and it was able to spike up to 400k or something like that
 
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Elfteiroh

Member
deathcobra said:
Yep. Pokémon AR Searcher/Dream Radar. Then Animal Crossing: New Leaf. Can't wait to see how X & Y fare.
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I was going to say something stupid like I would do something stupid if X/Y doesn't sell more than Dream Radar... but I stopped myself just before pushing the "Submit" button... xD
You can NEVER be too careful with these things. o_o

SPOILER: It was about my fist, my face and some camera.
 
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Foshy

Member
What do you guys think about the sales potential of the Vita TV? Buzz seems to be pretty big from what I heard.

Barring supply constraints, at least 150k first week seems a lock, no? The last few console launches (3DS, Vita, Wii U) were around 300k, and the 3DS XL sold around 200k.
 
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Aquamarine

Member
Foshy said:
What do you guys think about the sales potential of the Vita TV? Buzz seems to be pretty big from what I heard.

Barring supply constraints, at least 150k first week seems a lock, no? The last few console launches (3DS, Vita, Wii U) were around 300k, and the 3DS XL sold around 200k.
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At that impulse buy price, it's bound to sell well at least in its first week.
 
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Aquamarine

Member
The trolls are starting to dissipate.

Now that more reviews are flooding in, that 3-star ranking for Monster Hunter 4 on Amazon has now been bumped up to a 3.5-star one.

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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Foshy said:
What do you guys think about the sales potential of the Vita TV? Buzz seems to be pretty big from what I heard.

Barring supply constraints, at least 150k first week seems a lock, no? The last few console launches (3DS, Vita, Wii U) were around 300k, and the 3DS XL sold around 200k.
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How do you know the buzz is pretty big?
 
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donny2112

Member
Ratrat said:
Does it make sense that if would fluctuate like this or was it an error?
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Can't speak to historical norms, but when a game is about to put a million or more copies on the market over a couple of days and grow heavily from there, it's probably a wise idea to keep a trade-in price low at first to prevent a 100,000 people trading it in at once and sucking out tons of money. Once things have died down and a more predictable pattern emerges for trade-ins, then it'd be safe to raise the price to more reasonable levels. Just had to get through the initial surge, in case tons of people wanted to trade back in the game initially (e.g. if the game was just really bad and then Amazon would be stuck with a lot of traded in copies of a bad game).
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Father_Brain said:
The Amazon sellout, I'm guessing. Which means little without knowing how many units they were allocated.

A low six-figure launch seems reasonable, though. But I'd expect it to drop to four figures pretty quickly.
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Selling out first shipment at amazon means nothing.
 
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zroid

Banned
deathcobra said:
Monster Hunter 4 has now sold more (3DS eShop) than Super Mario Bros.!
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But what's its eShop rating? 2 stars, I bet. All those regretted purchases.
:p

deathcobra said:
I received a response from Nintendo UK regarding download cards comprising eShop charts:-


So I guess we don't know just how solid Animal Crossing's hold on the eShop chart is.
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Actually, download codes definitely count. You can tell because those games Club Nintendo offers every month always shoot up in the rankings when they're made available. Same happened with the games which were offered as Gold/Platinum prizes in July/August.
 
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extralite

Member
Zeer0id said:
But what's its eShop rating? 2 stars, I bet. All those regretted purchases.
:p
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You might have missed this:
extralite said:
Since the Amazon review stars average is so low for MH4 I thought I'd compare that with the reviews on eShop. Only people who bough a copy, retail or DD, can rate there (as opposed to Amazon).

It currently has an average of a full 5 stars with 3020 votes.
2884 gave 5 stars.
82 gave 4 stars.
19 gave 3 stars.
8 gave 2 stars.
And 27 gave 1 star.
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Update: Number of ratings is now at 3521. Still full 5 stars average.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
There are CoroCoro scans out mentioning a new Youkai Watch is in development for 3DS.

They don't show or say overly much else to my knowledge, but I can't read Japanese.
 
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