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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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Headphone-GAF will serve you well.
Also, posting from my custom water cooled PC! So happy everything is working smoothly.
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Temps look good so I guess everything was properly installed.
CPU is about 26°C idle and GPU is idling at 23°C. This is still with an open case though but with only 4 of the 5 radiator fans running and no fans on the case (yet). I just couldn't wait any longer to test if everything was installed properly. Will finish up the wire management and try to take decent pictures this weekend. Also need to buy a fan splitter/controller for the fans to keep everything tidy and organized.
Big thanks to mkenyon for the selection process. Couldn't be here without him. *raises scotch glass*
Just took a nice big sip of some Balvenie!
Need pics.
I spent $400 on a G1.Assassin 2. $270 on a Rampage Gene IV. $425 on a Gigabyte Z77X-UP7.
But I wouldn't ever think about buying the RIVE Black Edition. It's just silly. Don't even waste your time on IB-E unless you're going Tri-GPU out of the gate. Even then, you'd be better served by going with a Z87 board that has a PLX chip on it like the G1.Sniper 5 or the MSI Z87 X-Power.
If you're dead set on X79/IB-E, get one of the X79 boards in the OP. If you aren't, then drop the silliness and get yourself a solid Z87 board like the MSI GD-65 Gaming or Gigabyte Z87 Sniper ($200 version) and upgrade that GPU to a 780 or 780Ti,
Need pics.
I'm the biggest motherboard whore on this forum.
I spent $400 on a G1.Assassin 2. $270 on a Rampage Gene IV. $425 on a Gigabyte Z77X-UP7.
But I wouldn't ever think about buying the RIVE Black Edition. It's just silly. Don't even waste your time on IB-E unless you're going Tri-GPU out of the gate. Even then, you'd be better served by going with a Z87 board that has a PLX chip on it like the G1.Sniper 5 or the MSI Z87 X-Power.
If you're dead set on X79/IB-E, get one of the X79 boards in the OP. If you aren't, then drop the silliness and get yourself a solid Z87 board like the MSI GD-65 Gaming or Gigabyte Z87 Sniper ($200 version) and upgrade that GPU to a 780 or 780Ti,
I really want to pick up a new GPU (my 5970 is toast.) but everyone online is saying that this is the worst time to buy one?
I was looking at the 4GB 770 on newegg for $379... Is this not a good deal? If not, how long should I wait for prices to drop after CES and new product announcements?
Never been this confused with PC parts tbh
I was looking at the 4GB 770 on newegg for $379... Is this not a good deal? If not, how long should I wait for prices to drop after CES and new product announcements?
Never been this confused with PC parts tbh
Prophet Steve
Member
Eh, I am not sure this is the worst time. AMD graphics cards have hugely increased in price because of the whole mining fad. And there hasn't been a new architecture in GPUs for quite some time, with a new generation coming next year. However, it is not known when in the new year those graphics cards will come. It can still be a long wait.
Is there a significant difference between Corsair Vengeance LP (1600Mhz) and Corsair Vengeance Pro (1866Mhz-2133Mhz). The price difference is minor (~£15 for the highest clock), so is it worth it?
Also I am in a dilemma for the GPU. I originally opted for the 3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, but would it be worth it to upgrade to a Ti? It's a major hike in price (+£170).
While I would like to avoid an AMD GPU if possible (as explained in my first post I need to be able to perform CUDA computations), would it be more optimal? What about Mantle?
As you can probably tell, I am still somewhat confused
Thanks for the recommendation. Done!
I think the actual build option is only about ~£50. Most of the discrepancies between my build and yours seems to stem from the high differences in prices between US/Canada and UK.
Also I am in a dilemma for the GPU. I originally opted for the 3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, but would it be worth it to upgrade to a Ti? It's a major hike in price (+£170).
While I would like to avoid an AMD GPU if possible (as explained in my first post I need to be able to perform CUDA computations), would it be more optimal? What about Mantle?
As you can probably tell, I am still somewhat confused
Thanks for the recommendation. Done!
I think the actual build option is only about ~£50. Most of the discrepancies between my build and yours seems to stem from the high differences in prices between US/Canada and UK.
Is there a significant difference between Corsair Vengeance LP (1600Mhz) and Corsair Vengeance Pro (1866Mhz-2133Mhz). The price difference is minor (~£15 for the highest clock), so is it worth it?
Also I am in a dilemma for the GPU. I originally opted for the 3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, but would it be worth it to upgrade to a Ti? It's a major hike in price (+£170).
While I would like to avoid an AMD GPU if possible (as explained in my first post I need to be able to perform CUDA computations), would it be more optimal? What about Mantle?
As you can probably tell, I am still somewhat confused
Thanks for the recommendation. Done!
I think the actual build option is only about ~£50. Most of the discrepancies between my build and yours seems to stem from the high differences in prices between US/Canada and UK.
Absolutely none. Don't waste your money on higher clocked RAM.
I'd just stick with the 780. Whilst the 780 Ti is a fantastic bit of kit it doesn't warrant the price premium, but that's just me. If you can afford it and want the very best Nvidia offer go for it!
As for an AMD GPU, the non-reference 290 and 290X that are filtering out now are phenomenal cards, the 290 especially, but if you need CUDA forget about them.
The vendor I use only offers XFX Radeon cards. Are these non-reference? I might give up on CUDA if the difference with a 780 (non-Ti) is significant enough for games.
They're the reference versions from looking, and you don't want an XFX card either.
If you're not planning to SLI then the 550W Corsair RM could be an option too.
Cool thanks. Still hesitating between the 780 and 780 Ti. Pretty tough choice. I would like the system to last as long as possible, maybe the latter would such a bad choice after all.
A GPU is probably one of the easiest things to upgrade in a PC. That £170 difference for ~14% better performance, well to me it's not worth it. I'd rather keep the £170 and down the line use it towards an upgrade on say a 20nm card when they are available at the end of 2014 or early-ish 2015. The 780 isn't going to struggle with anything you throw at it.
OminoMichelin
Member
I finally got some torx screws and managed to remove my iMac's HDD
Sorry for the extremely shitty pictures, I used my tablet. Do I need extra steps in order to mount the HDD on a PC?
Also, I've been wondering if I can recycle the iMac's DVD drive. I remember reading somewhere that it needs proprietary drivers but I can't find anything online.
Sorry for the extremely shitty pictures, I used my tablet. Do I need extra steps in order to mount the HDD on a PC?
Also, I've been wondering if I can recycle the iMac's DVD drive. I remember reading somewhere that it needs proprietary drivers but I can't find anything online.
The hard drive is the same as anything in a pc. It just will need formatting.I finally got some torx screws and managed to remove my iMac's HDD
Sorry for the extremely shitty pictures, I used my tablet. Do I need extra steps in order to mount the HDD on a PC?
Also, I've been wondering if I can recycle the iMac's DVD drive. I remember reading somewhere that it needs proprietary drivers but I can't find anything online.
As for the dvd, you will have a hard time getting it working. Essentially it is a laptop drive, so special connector. However you should be able to sell it because the drives fail pretty often.
Anton668
Member
my friend is having a issue atm. his sys specs are:
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
8GB Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950
He was playing Total Rome and and and had to lower the settings, then things went south...
so my question is has his GPU given up the ghost or is there something he missed?
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
8GB Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950
He was playing Total Rome and and and had to lower the settings, then things went south...
so my question is has his GPU given up the ghost or is there something he missed?
You are right, seems like a better approach. My current specs look as follows:
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Fractal Design Define R4 [R4 in Black Pearl]
£136.64
Gigabyte Z87 Motherboards [Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H - SLI and Crossfire Support]
£258.20
Intel Core i7 4770K, 3.5GHz Quad Core with HT, 8MB Cache
£37.18
Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler
£133.92
16GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 1600MHz, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.5V
£389.74
3GB EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 967MHz GPU, 2304 Cores, 6008MHz GDDR5
£76.26
550W Corsair RM, Modular, Silent, 80PLUS Gold - Any Single Graphics Card
£137.10
240GB Solid State Drives [250GB Samsung 840 EVO - 540MB/s Read, 520MB/s Write, 97K IOPS]
£62.15
1TB+ System Hard Drives [2TB Seagate Barracuda, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache]
£13.18
Samsung SH-224DB - 24x DVD Reader & Writer
£70.57
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-BitSeems ok?
Final questions before I pull the trigger: is the case good? I only went for it because it is described as silent and looked good. Also, is the EVGA card a relatively good 780? It's the only 780 offered by the vendor so I would rather go with it if at all possible.
Thank you all for your help, made the choices so much easier.
OminoMichelin
Member
Looking at ebay, they seem to be worth about 40, nice! I wonder if I can sell something else.
Yes and yes. Case is amazing and EVGA make great cards.
What other CPU coolers do they have?
They only list 3 but I could most likely get in touch with them to use a custom part if necessary. Would rather one of those though as I can get a discount if using the default options:
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Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler
£37.18 inc VAT
Corsair H80 Hydro - High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
£59.40 inc VAT
Corsair H100i Hydro - High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
£88.92 inc VAT
longdi
Banned
Like the others said, i would swap the motherboard and cpu budget around.
Get a IVB-E 6 cores and a more normal X79 from Asus. They seems the best for X79.
6 cores at 4.4-4.6Ghz will last you a long time.
Think you will be fine with that cooler. Just reading quick reviews, it seems decent. I just didn't know what it was and then thought it was price £133 heh, that was the RAM.
Xisiqomelir
Member
Hardware-wise, it is, as you say, a very easy decision.
However, please be aware that Battlefield 4 has...issues.
Yes, I know but the price of the card is only 80€ more than the 770 and 50€ less than the 780 at least in Spain and I like what I read in the first reviews.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I recon the 780ti Windforce or DCUII won't be much cheaper (in February)than their 700 price tag at the moment. Need 2 great GPU's that will hold me for 2 years for my early 2015 build. I figure getting them now will leave my 2015 money allocation all for the necessary parts minus the optical, SSD-HDD, and OS.
I remember when I put my p67 build together and was limited on the case and such. My x79 was a little less limited but with my Haswell-E build I want as little limitations as possible in 2015 when it comes to finances.
I can already see myself with 2 780ti's and come early 2015 wanting some Maxwell cards lol
The goal is to get 2 expensive GPU's in Feb. so I'm not fighting to get all the parts for the Haswell-E build. I'd hate to skimp on main components (PSU,MB,Case,DDR4,etc), and intend to avoid that.
On a separate note - what is the concensus on those expensive portable air blowers for cleaning out dusty components?
I remember when I put my p67 build together and was limited on the case and such. My x79 was a little less limited but with my Haswell-E build I want as little limitations as possible in 2015 when it comes to finances.
I can already see myself with 2 780ti's and come early 2015 wanting some Maxwell cards lol
The goal is to get 2 expensive GPU's in Feb. so I'm not fighting to get all the parts for the Haswell-E build. I'd hate to skimp on main components (PSU,MB,Case,DDR4,etc), and intend to avoid that.
On a separate note - what is the concensus on those expensive portable air blowers for cleaning out dusty components?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Got a link by chance? On wifi at the hospital atm ><Liquid. I wish I had a good job
And there is a cheapish blower/vacuum that people recommend from Amazon. Costs like $25. Lasts years.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Feeling the GPU upgrade itch but having nothing that you want to upgrade to sucks.
Goddamn mining. And TSMC/GloFlo 20nm taking forever.
Goddamn mining. And TSMC/GloFlo 20nm taking forever.
I already told you to figure out your budget
. There are no amazing deals in Canada this year. And any that were decent are long sold out.(I already was doing a little looking around for you this morning)
I already told you to figure out your budget
(I already was doing a little looking around for you this morning)
Haha, thanks.
I'm looking locally on Kijiji for something cheap and that I can upgrade slowly with.
Pm me links and I'll let you know if it's a good deal or not
Speaking of getting the upgrade itch, this is my current build.
My graphics card is still decent (playing the latest games at either max, or high @ 60fps). I just bought a bunch of motherboard speakers... that's how desperate I am to tinker with this.
I'm thinking another 8GB of RAM. Would it be worth £60? And does it need to be the same speed/brand, or would it just underclock itself?
My graphics card is still decent (playing the latest games at either max, or high @ 60fps). I just bought a bunch of motherboard speakers... that's how desperate I am to tinker with this.
I'm thinking another 8GB of RAM. Would it be worth £60? And does it need to be the same speed/brand, or would it just underclock itself?
Hi friends,
For those of you thinking about building a new rig:
Newegg has the AMD FX-8320 on sale for $129.99 if you use the promo code. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285
Also the FX-4300 for $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287
If you get the 4300 (a 95W CPU) the 970A-G46 is a great mobo (I use it). Do not however buy it for 125W FX cpu's, MSI is finally admitting there are some VRM issues there.
These are great CPU's. No they aren't as good as an i5, but if your budget is tight spend <$100 or just a little over and put the extra money towards a really good GPU. These chips won't bottleneck them.
For those of you thinking about building a new rig:
Newegg has the AMD FX-8320 on sale for $129.99 if you use the promo code. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285
Also the FX-4300 for $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287
If you get the 4300 (a 95W CPU) the 970A-G46 is a great mobo (I use it). Do not however buy it for 125W FX cpu's, MSI is finally admitting there are some VRM issues there.
These are great CPU's. No they aren't as good as an i5, but if your budget is tight spend <$100 or just a little over and put the extra money towards a really good GPU. These chips won't bottleneck them.
SneakyStephan
Banned
no, there wouldn't be any difference other than more power consumption and heat in your case causing your fans to spin ever so slightly faster and be a little bit louder
So after many years I've decided to take my first stab at building a PC. I'll be getting some help from a friend, but am in the early stages of picking my setup. My budget is $1500 for the PC itself, not including peripherals (I'd go higher if need be). After checking some articles, here is my tentative build from PC part picker. Any thoughts/input/insults as to where to add or reduce cost would be helpful and appreciated:
CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $233.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing $27.98
Motherboard Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 $184.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $89.99
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD $162.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.98
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB $334.98
Wireless NA Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 $19.99
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower $59.99
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $95.99
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99
OS Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) $97.98
Total: $1385.84
CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $233.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing $27.98
Motherboard Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 $184.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $89.99
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD $162.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.98
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB $334.98
Wireless NA Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 $19.99
Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower $59.99
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $95.99
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $16.99
OS Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) $97.98
Total: $1385.84
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
20nm. Smaller chips that use less power, meaning we get new architectures and performance boosts, and not rebadges and enormous monstrosities like the Titan/780/290(/X) on the high end.
Should bring gains in price/performance if manufacturing costs are reasonable (which may not be the case).
I have a 5850 right now, was planning to get a 280X or 7970GHz if I found one cheap. Mining killed that, 770 is too expensive and I'm just not feeling like a 760 is going to last as long as I'd like it to. Might end up being what I go with though if we aren't seeing any new GPUs for a while and I'll just end up upgrading sooner than I'd like. Feels like burning money though, and that feels bad
I have read this CPU -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286 -- is about as powerful as an i7 but for the price of the i5 you are looking into.
The only difference is the Xeon has no integrated graphics, but quite frankly, who cares? I think they are harder to overclock as well, but if you aren't into that, all the more reason to consider this (and really if you have i7 performance why in the world would you want to even overclock, I have a FX-6300 which is considerably slower and yet I have no need to OC even).
But yeah, if what I have been reading is true then you should consider getting essentially a free upgrade to i7 performance.
The i5 will be faster than the Xeon in games thanks to the unlocked multiplier. In media and multithreaded work by all means use the Xeon or an i7 but games need that massive single thread.
Cooling question about the AeroCool DS Cube Black Edition Window Mini-ITX case and spec in general...
Spec in Question
Case
AeroCool DS Cube Black Edition Window Mini-ITX
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Corei5 Quad Core Processor i5-4440 (3.1GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® H81I-PLUS: Mini-ITX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES MODULAR TXM-650 V2-80 PLUS®
-- My main concern is cooling and quietness: without adding anything to these stock items, do you think cooling will be sufficient? Can't and wouldn't be overclocked anyway
Equally is there anything that stands out in terms of concern? I was considering the Bitfenix Prodigy but I like the design of the Aerocool DS a little more and the quietness angle appeals. Budgets fairly tight to this so any major additions to these items isn't an option. Mainly be used for emulation and 1080p single monitor gaming. Ta!
Spec in Question
Case
AeroCool DS Cube Black Edition Window Mini-ITX
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Corei5 Quad Core Processor i5-4440 (3.1GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® H81I-PLUS: Mini-ITX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES MODULAR TXM-650 V2-80 PLUS®
-- My main concern is cooling and quietness: without adding anything to these stock items, do you think cooling will be sufficient? Can't and wouldn't be overclocked anyway
Equally is there anything that stands out in terms of concern? I was considering the Bitfenix Prodigy but I like the design of the Aerocool DS a little more and the quietness angle appeals. Budgets fairly tight to this so any major additions to these items isn't an option. Mainly be used for emulation and 1080p single monitor gaming. Ta!
This is meaningless unless you want to OC, correct?
If you don't want to overclock then a Z87 board and improved cooler aren't necessary either. But if the computer is just for games then it should be overclocked.
made some recent changes to my system over the holidays. switched from a 2GB MSI 660 to a 4GB EVGA 770. Added the ASUS 144Hz monitor, making it my main display for games while the other screen will allow me to read comments and such if I choose to stream/use the web and all other basic functions.
I'll probably put my 660 up for offer in the BST thread.
I'll probably put my 660 up for offer in the BST thread.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
20nm. Smaller chips that use less power, meaning we get new architectures and performance boosts, and not rebadges and enormous monstrosities like the Titan/780/290(/X) on the high end.
Should bring gains in price/performance if manufacturing costs are reasonable (which may not be the case).
I have a 5850 right now, was planning to get a 280X or 7970GHz if I found one cheap. Mining killed that, 770 is too expensive and I'm just not feeling like a 760 is going to last as long as I'd like it to. Might end up being what I go with though if we aren't seeing any new GPUs for a while and I'll just end up upgrading sooner than I'd like. Feels like burning money though, and that feels bad
New architectures? As someone who will build my first gaming rig ever, sounds like worth waiting for. But uh, I know nothing. And I can't imagine that happening within 6 weeks, which is when I'll start ordering things. It won't require a mobo upgrade, will it?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
If you're planning to build soon I wouldn't bother waiting. We might not get anything new until the second half of 2014 at the rate things are going. I've even seen some people say NVidia's Maxwell might not even start on 20nm, which would be a massive disappointment if true. Not even sure that would make sense.
You wouldn't need a new motherboard for a GPU upgrade though, especially since whatever you're getting now should have PCIe 3.
cormack12
Gold Member
Hey GAF,
Am really thinking of buying a new PC to game with but would appreciate some opinions of those in the know. I have a PS4 at the moment and would still keep this.
Your Current Specs: Nothing
Budget: £500-600, UK
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest:
Light Gaming (4), Gaming (5), General Usage (2).
Monitor Resolution: I have a Sony 42" TV to plug into @ 1920 x 1080. That resolution is fine for me as a maximum. But I might want a monitor as well to play the more kb/m oriented games at a desk as I still haven't found a great solution for this despite trying many.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Any multi platform games I'd hope to be able to plug into the TV and enjoy on the big screen with PS4 controller (with better performance than consoles). I'd like to be able to run whatever is current at high settings (games like Rome:Total War II, LoL, ACIV, Witcher 3 - not really fussed about FPS as I'm gradually moving more and more away from them).
Is 30FPS acceptable? 60 as a minimum for the above games with high settings.
Looking to reuse any parts? No
When will you build? Just scoping out prices, if I get a great deal prob end of Jan. If not, more end of April time.
Will you be overclocking? Possibly, though not essential
Cheers....
Am really thinking of buying a new PC to game with but would appreciate some opinions of those in the know. I have a PS4 at the moment and would still keep this.
Your Current Specs: Nothing
Budget: £500-600, UK
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest:
Light Gaming (4), Gaming (5), General Usage (2).
Monitor Resolution: I have a Sony 42" TV to plug into @ 1920 x 1080. That resolution is fine for me as a maximum. But I might want a monitor as well to play the more kb/m oriented games at a desk as I still haven't found a great solution for this despite trying many.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Any multi platform games I'd hope to be able to plug into the TV and enjoy on the big screen with PS4 controller (with better performance than consoles). I'd like to be able to run whatever is current at high settings (games like Rome:Total War II, LoL, ACIV, Witcher 3 - not really fussed about FPS as I'm gradually moving more and more away from them).
Is 30FPS acceptable? 60 as a minimum for the above games with high settings.
Looking to reuse any parts? No
When will you build? Just scoping out prices, if I get a great deal prob end of Jan. If not, more end of April time.
Will you be overclocking? Possibly, though not essential
Cheers....
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