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Mr.ODST
Member
Not sure who is to blame, obviously came out in the EPIC v Apple case that Sony requires a cut based on playerbase etc especially around MTX but Borderlands 3 doesn't have any, Are Sony the only ones to charge developers for Cross-Play?
Mr.ODST
Member
It might only be temporary while they get certification but its weird to take it out for certification the enable it after when its not even been certified?
Hopefully it is and I may not have read it 100% correctly I don't know if it's actually Sony that doesn't want this or the publisher?
It seems that Sony wants the publisher to pay and publisher doesn't. I have seen people blame the publisher but I don't get that.
That we know of, Sony is the only company that charges publishers for enabling cross play
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Iced Arcade
Member
Sony probably want to be paid for nothing again.
#Inb4foolishjustificationposts
#Inb4foolishjustificationposts
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The Cockatrice
Member
What do you expect from a company that asks idiots to pay to play online? Smart move, money is all that matters. 
Endless Fluff
Banned
Thank You, Sony. #4theplayers
Krappadizzle
Member
I said this in the last thread about Sony and crossplay that it was Sony throwing a wrench in the gears of crossplay for Borderlands 3 and people were calling me a liar. Love it.
O well, at least it's finally coming. Crossplay should just be supported regardless of platform, a larger player pool only helps to extend the lifespan of any given game. Just give players the option to opt-out of playing with other consoles or PC so that everyone can be happy.
O well, at least it's finally coming. Crossplay should just be supported regardless of platform, a larger player pool only helps to extend the lifespan of any given game. Just give players the option to opt-out of playing with other consoles or PC so that everyone can be happy.
ManaByte
Member
But they’re the market leader and deserve the tribute of money for allowing peasants to play with their friends on other platforms. /s
Blitzmangoman
Member
I was playing on PS5 with my friend on PS4. So we have to take a break? Nice one Sony.
Krappadizzle
Member
Randy going Medieval (times) on PlayStation.
Krappadizzle
Member
SLB1904
Banned
You'll be fine. I think they are talking about cross play between PC and xbox
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Fucking ridiculous. Been waiting for this patch since the game released. I own every console and a PC, and already pay for online for 3 of those. Don’t make me buy multiple copies of the same fucking game to play with friends. It’s so anti consumer. I have friends on all platforms. Let us buy the game for our preferred platform and play with our friends. Insane. Thought this was finally coming to an end with Call of Duty and Fortnite embracing crossplay. But looks like they’re still holding out.
Hopefully this causes enough uproar that they flip on this issue. And fast.
Hopefully this causes enough uproar that they flip on this issue. And fast.
Krappadizzle
Member
As far as we know this is cross play and not cross purchasing like Fortnite. You can try and make the argument that it's fine for crossplay royalties when purchasing is made on other platforms, I get that.
IF Sony also requires royalties for crossplay even if console purchases don't carry over then I don't understand how you can justify that lol.
IF Sony also requires royalties for crossplay even if console purchases don't carry over then I don't understand how you can justify that lol.
supernova8
Banned
You say that sarcastically but I don't recall Microsoft (which is the platform that has been banging on about cross-play the most) begging for it when they were neck-and-neck with Playstation in the PS3/360 generation.
Surely people have to find it odd that Microsoft suddenly started being a bleeding heart after they got pummeled by the PS4.
Of course as a consumer I have no issue with cross-play, the more the merrier, but it's not hard to see why Sony would think "nah actually I'm OK without cross-play".
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Nintendo is far from being pummeled by Sony, and yet they allow it, too with no fees as far as we know.
01011001
Banned
well we don't know if it is because sony wants money, if it is then fuck em.
and honestly, why did Epic Games even bow down to this? back then they had all the cards in their hands, Sony had no choice but to give in if Epic Games actually wanted to.
what they could have done is say to Sony that they will simply cut the PS4 version of Fortnite off from all the other versionsm the risk of bad PR maybe would have been enough to convince Sony to not do that fees bullshit they're doing now
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supernova8
Banned
Sure but I'd say that's because they aren't really competing with Sony/Microsoft in the same way they are competing with each other.
ManaByte
Member
They had PC/360 crossplay before anyone else tried it though (Shadowrun).
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Wait is this real? In what world does Sony deserve a cut of anything just because a developer enables cross play? 4theplayers my ass.
ManaByte
Member
In the thread where that was revealed a certain group was defending it because Sony is the market leader and they deserve it.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
lol 4theplayer :/
Mr.ODST
Member
Sony charges for crossplay support to protect PSN revenue, documents show
Epic lawsuit shows that Sony gets royalties if too many PlayStation players spend money elsewhere.
www.pcgamer.com
here you go
Kokoloko85
Member
Its a business move
For example, If theres only 500 people playing on the Nintendo and 2000 people playing on the Playstation, why should playstation help out Nintendo’s users base to have more players to play with?
4 the players, yeah the playstation players lol
How does this effect Playstation users? Are they missing out?
For example, If theres only 500 people playing on the Nintendo and 2000 people playing on the Playstation, why should playstation help out Nintendo’s users base to have more players to play with?
4 the players, yeah the playstation players lol
How does this effect Playstation users? Are they missing out?
ManaByte
Member
If you have a friend who has Borderlands 3 but not on the PlayStation, now you can't play with them.
I know for some people having friends IRL is an alien concept though.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Lol, most my friends play on Playstation and have a Switch
If I play with people online its with friends I made through games like Destiny, which I found on Playstation.
Its a problem if you only have 1 friend lol, maybe having more than 1 friend is an alien concept for some though....
martino
Member
2 of my friend have the game on ps4
i have it on pc
i played solo and we wanted to play the dlc the three of us (tbh i pushed a little for it)
i will not buy the game , the dlc and PS+,it won't happen.
here sony will not see the money of two MTX ...
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If Person A has Borderlands 3 on Xbox, and Person B has Borderlands 3 on PlayStation they cannot play together.
The copies are already sold, and they already have their consoles.
If they can play together, it's more likely they will be inclined to spend money buying DLC packs to continue playing together. That will drive revenue for Sony that could be lost otherwise.
What's more likely - that one person convinces the other to drop an extra $500+ on another copy+console to play together, or easily buying a $30 season pass?
Kokoloko85
Member
If they really wanted to play it they would buy it.
You werent gonna buy it on the Playstation anyway. I dont see them losing much this way lol