RepairmanJack
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Four and a half good issues does not excuse all the shit that was the pre-rebirth run. I still have trepid expectations.
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DC Rebirth |OT| It's not a reboot, and it always was [SPOILERS for Rebirth #1]
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Four and a half good issues does not excuse all the shit that was the pre-rebirth run. I still have trepid expectations.
Dandy Lyin
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I like the art, if nothing else.
This looks pretty good. Still annoyed that black kid == trouble with the law, but anything to flavor the Flash family.
I like that Percy is trying to move away from that.
I disagree because the young characters read like an adult writing how he thinks kids talk.
Poodlestrike
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That's totally how my friends spoke in high school tho
Yeah I noticed that. I really appreciate the effort.
Tragicomedy
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Who are your responding to here? I've been calling Harley DC's third pillar over Wonder Woman since the Rebirth announcement. I fully understand she moves books.
I also understand that sales tell us jack shit about the quality of a book. We live in a world where Harley sells 400K issues and Vision barely moves 20K. Which of those books will we be talking about in five years?
I agree. I hadn't read a Harley solo book prior to Rebirth, and figured Rebirth would be a good time to see if it was for me. I had assumed it would be as I'm a fan of lighthearted solo female books (pre Nu52 Power Girl and Pre Nu52 Zatanna being two great examples of books like that which I thought were great). I was shocked at how bad Harley Quinn 1 was. Just random nonsense that I assume was meant to be funny, but was not. Just weird/silly nonsense for no reason. It's a shame as I'm a fan of both Conner and Palmiotti, but not enough of one to keep reading the shit show they're orchestrating now.
It does sell well, much like how Transformers movies do great business even though almost no one thinks they're good.
Ugh. You just gave me a nightmarish thought that I do not want to vocalize.
Tragicomedy
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Share, you're among friends. In Harley we trust!
Harley Quinn in the Justice League.
Not as a gag, but as a legit push by DC. Even worse, Diana is taken out of play for a period of time and Harley somehow becomes the the third leg of the trinity in all but name.
The mere thought sends shivers up my spine, but I can definitely see some variation of this being possible.
Superman #4
this was some good shit, but I was hoping Jon would rekt.
Superman #5
Bruh! Batman showing everyone he is still the best
One of the best things about this issue was
the art is great in both issues
5/5 can't believe we got one more issue before this arc ends
Batman #4
I know a bunch of yah had issues with this one, but I liked it. Gotham is no batman or superman.
4/5
Batman #5
solid issue that kinda left me confused as it tried to explain Gotham's power and such.
4/5
2 more weeks before the conclusion.
this was some good shit, but I was hoping Jon would rekt.
Superman #5
Bruh! Batman showing everyone he is still the best
He got a batcave on the fucking Moon!
One of the best things about this issue was
Lois in the hellbat, and an inside view of the suit
the art is great in both issues
5/5 can't believe we got one more issue before this arc ends
Batman #4
I know a bunch of yah had issues with this one, but I liked it. Gotham is no batman or superman.
4/5
Batman #5
solid issue that kinda left me confused as it tried to explain Gotham's power and such.
so I guess Gotham girl and Duke get married in the far future?
4/5
2 more weeks before the conclusion.
RepairmanJack
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Going back and reading the first arc of Action Comics in a full chunk really moved it up in my eyes. It was still a little slow and really offered no answers, but it really all came together pretty well for me with the last issue.
Reading it all together made the Oz stuff during each issue less dumb. You can really see that this was his plan the whole time but not really seeing what he actually meant until the end. Stuff like him saying that Superman needs to think to solve this problem. He means he needs to remember the phantom zone gun. Or how he's watching Lois and Jon watch Superman on the TV he mentions it's starting to come together, I think it's meaning he knows John is going to scream leading to Doomsday leaving Metropolis. Because up to that point it seemed like Superman was perfectly fine just fighting to his death all over again. But Doomsday going after Jon changes the situation and probably changes how Superman thinks about the situation. Even up to the point of Oz sending his troops in the last issue it seems like it was put in place just to remind Superman of his Phantom Zone gun-thing.
It's not all handled amazingly and I still wouldn't call this a great book because of how much it dragged, but the last issue followed by a re-read really put it in a different perspective for me.
Reading it all together made the Oz stuff during each issue less dumb. You can really see that this was his plan the whole time but not really seeing what he actually meant until the end. Stuff like him saying that Superman needs to think to solve this problem. He means he needs to remember the phantom zone gun. Or how he's watching Lois and Jon watch Superman on the TV he mentions it's starting to come together, I think it's meaning he knows John is going to scream leading to Doomsday leaving Metropolis. Because up to that point it seemed like Superman was perfectly fine just fighting to his death all over again. But Doomsday going after Jon changes the situation and probably changes how Superman thinks about the situation. Even up to the point of Oz sending his troops in the last issue it seems like it was put in place just to remind Superman of his Phantom Zone gun-thing.
It's not all handled amazingly and I still wouldn't call this a great book because of how much it dragged, but the last issue followed by a re-read really put it in a different perspective for me.
Quite a few of these will read better in trade and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing...
RepairmanJack
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They may run together better in trade and be less frustrating but some of these are still not going to be good stories. I'm really not a fan of this many books doing the whole mini arc leading to a big overall arc. At first it seemed like Batman was just doing that but with Action and Flash it just doesn't seem to work near as well.
pock3tmonster
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Cross-posting from the community thread.
I have the first 25 issues in my cart and I'm circling the last 10.
I have the first 25 issues in my cart and I'm circling the last 10.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Mmmmmm sorta
They're definitely not as strong as the preceding issues, but they're perfectly readable.
pock3tmonster
Banned
Does issue 25 serve as a sufficient ending to Rogers run if I stop there?
Poodlestrike
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Yeah, I think so. That's where they wrap the first big arc.
You will be missing out on some pretty fun issues, tho. I'd pick up at least the next 3 after that, which are basically one-and-dones.
RepairmanJack
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Definitely not Flash, it's been pretty boring and going nowhere.
I'd say Wonder Woman is seeming like the best the farther it goes, but it's probably not the best for a newcomer. Green Arrow has been great and not too hard to get in to.
Discotheque
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i've only read wonder woman, batman, superman and a few of the flash ones but so far wonder woman is killing it imo. year one arc especially (good introduction to newcomers as it goes through an origin story)
If you like Batman I strongly recommend Detective Comics. It's right there with Green Arrow as my favorite Rebirth title.
Same.
I truly love all three. Though the most praise seemingly goes to GA.
Or Legend of Wonder Woman....
Yes. At one point I got them confused as they were so similar.
LordOfLore
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It's WW's year.
Pandora012
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So are there any good Harley comics? Apparently, the newer one is not that good.
Also, think about getting more comics. Anyone have an recommendations? I pretty much like all the DC characters and if I don't I'm willing to give them a chance.
Also, think about getting more comics. Anyone have an recommendations? I pretty much like all the DC characters and if I don't I'm willing to give them a chance.
For Rebirth I'd go with:
Green Arrow
Detective Comics - Batwoman and Batman's sidekicks working together
and New Super-Man - A fun take on a teenage superhero in China
For Harley the best bet is to go with one of the classics like Mad Love.
Pandora012
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Thank you! Think I might also pick up Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman is good. If you're looking to get into characters then the Earth One graphic novels might be an interesting option. Grant Morrison recently released one for Wonder Woman which was good. There were a few for Superman, Batman and Teen Titans as well.
Elaugaufein
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Nothing out today ?
LordOfLore
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Mostly annuals like Earth 2: Society and Gotham Academy or special issues like Suicide Squad: War Crimes by the original Suicide Squad writer(which I think counts as part of Rebirth)or Future Quest.
It's a fifth week of the month and DC built their current Rebirth release schedule around 4 week months and don't have as many books out as Marvel currently so the week is fairly empty.
On the other hand a bunch of trades are out this week like The Omega Men which has already apparently been sold out in stores around the world.
RepairmanJack
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They seem to really hate fifth weeks when it comes to rebirth. Second week in only a couple months with no rebirth books and mostly just annuals.
Everyone should go buy The Omega Men trade. But other than that nah.
RepairmanJack
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Bear Force One
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Jorok Goldblade
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I thought this Wally was Daniel Wests's son, not his nephew.
http://www.newsarama.com/29419-dc-universe-rebirth-1-explaining-the-two-spoiler-s.html
First issue and already messing up your character's biography?
It is disjointed as fuck. But I think that is supposed to be part of the charm.
Very '90s.
RepairmanJack
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I think this all was made weird with Rebirth? I thought the way pre-52 Wally explained it differently when he talked about them having the same name. I don't actually know though.
There's going to be a Justice League/Suicide Squad crossover in December and January that JLA will spin out of in February.
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016...de-in-comics-miniseries-exclusive-art-reveal/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016...de-in-comics-miniseries-exclusive-art-reveal/
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