RespectThySole
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I'm in awe that Gametrailers picked this as their most anticipated game of E3. Very underwhelming reveal.
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DOOM Gameplay Demo (E3 2015)
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zeioIIDX
Member
I read this in a movie trailer dramatic voice lol. And I agree, it's at least faster paced than those two series.
What part of my post was shit/stupid please explain.
It's funny how when I first watched those youtube videos in the OP on my phone, I thought that how the hell someone can make the game called Doom look, sound and feel so meh.
Thankfully I later went to my PC, and watched the same hell gameplay footage with decent image and sound quality and 60fps and not the poor, stuttering and compressed mess of a stream footage one in the OP. Yeah, it's still not the original Doom remastered we all hoped for, but I'm cautiously optimistic that the game will feel fine and be fun when we get to play it for real.
But they really need to tone down the takedowns or at least let us remove the hud promts. I can see them becoming tiring very fast. Also, health pickups from killing enemies. Ugh. :/
Thankfully I later went to my PC, and watched the same hell gameplay footage with decent image and sound quality and 60fps and not the poor, stuttering and compressed mess of a stream footage one in the OP. Yeah, it's still not the original Doom remastered we all hoped for, but I'm cautiously optimistic that the game will feel fine and be fun when we get to play it for real.
But they really need to tone down the takedowns or at least let us remove the hud promts. I can see them becoming tiring very fast. Also, health pickups from killing enemies. Ugh. :/
baphomet
Member
You know, the part where you're speaking as if you know anything about the future. So basically all of it.
Don't like the game, that's fine. But if you want to spout off shit from your crystal ball do it elsewhere.
veloxStrix
Banned
Showing the masses a shooter where you run around pumping rounds into enemies chests while exploring various arenas using the same textures for every thing while experiencing the hearthbreaking tale of a man with a gun growing out of his chest does sound like a recipe for mass appeal now that I think about it.
Looking back at the trailer, they at least got the unimaginative color palette spot on. Now they just need to make the enemies bright purple so they stand out.
Why remove meele when is already optional?
Most of the complaints in this thread also doesn't makes any sense in a 2015 game targeting the 2015 console demografic.
Others still cannot understand what a gameplay e3 demo is (Ia,movement and aiming speed).
The game sure could be improved but still looked good, is 60fps, no sprint, no ads, has a built in editor. I was actually impressed by the effort.
A modern reboot could have been Very worse for the "hardcore" standard.
Doom is one of those chosen few games that is still considered good because it is still good.
flaxknuckles
Member
Not fast enough still
MichaelFassbender
Member
Gotta say, I do agree with all the comments about the color scheme. Too much gray and yellow, nothing really stands out. Doom needs to be a bit bolder.
Im excited. Looks like a mix of Doom 3 with some classic Doom ideas. It's clearly not classic Doom but it looks like a lot of fun and I suspect it will feel great. Faster than Rage and Doom 3, no Rage-like hub world, and no reloading. There are plenty of enemies on screen. It's not like classic Doom maps flooded every map with loads of foes...
John Rabbit
Banned
where did you find this? everywhere i'm seeing has the stream footage (i.e. - compressed).
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Nice engine but like Doom 3, this doesn't seem to have that other-worldly weirdness that is essential to making the original Doom games so great. It doesn't have that feel. Doom has never just been about industrial/futuristic settings, which is where Doom 3 falls down heavily.
NavyPharaoh
Member
The finishing moves remind me of bulletstorm already looks much better than that game. Can't wait to play this.
Can you name all those hardcore violent shooters of late? I'm coming up empty.
This is like posting that you're bored of colorful platformers in the thread for the next Mario.
Pestilence11
Member
Being a little too linear, lack of enemies and maybe gun feedback are the negatives for me.
The multiplayer video showed some really fast, classic-like movement at one point. I don't know if that was just a specific optional functionality enabled within the editor or something, but maybe the single player demonstration stuff just wasn't using the 'move around quickly' button or something? I dunno. A stretch, I guess.
Doesn't bother me too much. I never played Doom all ultra quick. I was also not one of the hardcore types who played on the extreme difficulties, either. AND I enjoyed Doom 3, despite it not being much like previous Dooms. So I can still dig what I've seen here.
I do hope they make an effort with level design(and isn't just full of monster arenas as shown in the video). The Snapmap stuff sounds like they have a decent idea of what the loyal Doom fans appreciate, so maybe what they've shown just doesn't give the full picture? Again, maybe a stretch, but maybe not in this case.
I'm still looking forward to it.
Doesn't bother me too much. I never played Doom all ultra quick. I was also not one of the hardcore types who played on the extreme difficulties, either. AND I enjoyed Doom 3, despite it not being much like previous Dooms. So I can still dig what I've seen here.
I do hope they make an effort with level design(and isn't just full of monster arenas as shown in the video). The Snapmap stuff sounds like they have a decent idea of what the loyal Doom fans appreciate, so maybe what they've shown just doesn't give the full picture? Again, maybe a stretch, but maybe not in this case.
I'm still looking forward to it.
cyberheater
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I wonder what spec of PC you need to really do this game justice and I wonder if it's got VR support?
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Despite the feel being off, it does look great. I like the gun feedback on the enemies and how they get cut up by the shotgun.
John Rabbit
Banned
should be in the OP, but this still looks a little compressed to me; it's definitely better quality though. i'm still not understanding why the ground in that main kind of combat area looks like it's missing it's textures entirely. the whole scene looks like one of those plastic vacu-formed models you get for a train set. it's just a giant hunk of gray.
i like the music but not for a "reboot" of Doom. it feels more in line with what they did in Doom 64 and Doom 3, but i was really hoping for more of a return to what made the first 2 games so great.
we'll see i guess, they have a year to keep at it.
manzo
Member
I don't know. Didn't look too hot. Maybe the way it was presented (slow pannings and the player too his time to show everything before going on), but the game felt really slow. Or then I'm just done with these AAA ultraviolent shooters.
I'll wait for more impressions.
Also, why am I not surprised that "it's the console's fault" that the game is slow or has a weapon wheel? I don't think the game would be any different if the game would be PC exclusive.
I'll wait for more impressions.
Also, why am I not surprised that "it's the console's fault" that the game is slow or has a weapon wheel? I don't think the game would be any different if the game would be PC exclusive.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Visually stunning, but the gunplay looks off.
I can't put my finger on it, but it just looks awkward and lacks any real punch. Still, early days I guess.
Can't say I like how much the dropped items stand out either.
I can't put my finger on it, but it just looks awkward and lacks any real punch. Still, early days I guess.
Can't say I like how much the dropped items stand out either.
The hell is this? The original games are as timeless as Mario and hold up perfectly
Again, what AAA ultra violent shooters?
I do think that the design motive behind the melee executions is a pretty neat idea, actually -- they may slow down the gameplay somewhat, but they still provide the 'forward momentum' that they are trying for here; where time that would have been spent moving backward, maybe picking up a health pack or two, is now replaced by a melee execution to deal with in-your-face annoyances, and enemies drop health packs to keep you going. By themselves, none of these ideas are amazing, but together they do provide an impetus to be fast, be precise, and be taking the enemies head on instead of retreating.
I'm not sure I got the same sense of linearity everyone else did from the two areas. It seemed like there was a lot of ways to take on the fight in the second part of the demo, and the first part -- while clearly limited -- seemed to have more walkable space than was actually explored. Hopefully they provide incentive to walk it.
I'm not sure I got the same sense of linearity everyone else did from the two areas. It seemed like there was a lot of ways to take on the fight in the second part of the demo, and the first part -- while clearly limited -- seemed to have more walkable space than was actually explored. Hopefully they provide incentive to walk it.
I was blown away by the visuals but found the gameplay to be a collection of cool things to do that would get old within minutes. Not to mention how none of the enemies really felt like a threat. It probably has to do with difficulty settings used, but given how it was demoed, it seemed like they don't want the game to feel that way anymore. Also, the guns (player's as well as enemies) sounded surprisingly weak. Got mixed feelings about this.
A couple factors:
1) the shotgun has almost no range; one of the first monsters doesn't even respond to his attacks
2) most monsters don't flinch or do anything to indicate they've been hurt UNLESS they gib
3) most monsters take too much damage, so you shoot a LOT and nothing happens
Based on this footage, reduced enemy health and increased enemy numbers would help increase the gun-feel a lot, but I haven't played, so I can't be certain. It's something I'd love to see tried out, however.
Nah. I liked Doom after going back to it, but it gets old pretty quick. Just not enough to interest me in how it handles 3D spaces. Quake's better.
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Fuck outta here with this nonsense. Doom 1+2 still hold up because of how well designed they are.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
That super generic HUD has to go. Like, right now. And in fairness it probably will before launch.
Why would there be a weapon wheel in a PC exclusive game?
Still, the PC version could just use keybinds. And if you plug in a controller it automatically switches to a wheel.
Another thing I would like to add is that finishing punch we see in the video throughout. I'm not buying it at all, it doesn't look like it has any actual weight behind it. Plus these are mother f'ing demons man, are they seriously going down to a light weight punch?
Faster and better open levels than Doom 3. Still looks slow though and focused on small groups of enemies.
Inevitable with console market and modern graphical expectations but still a tad dissappointing.
I'll let me hopes for a pure original Doom experience go at this point and focus on what looks good about this from here on it.
It is what it is and I still might want that.
Inevitable with console market and modern graphical expectations but still a tad dissappointing.
I'll let me hopes for a pure original Doom experience go at this point and focus on what looks good about this from here on it.
It is what it is and I still might want that.
Very disappointed. It looks like it lacks identity. Zombies all look indistinguishable from eachother, lacks horror/atmosphere, graphics look ''meh''.
Seeing how Doom 1 & 2 are one of my favorite retro games this is kind of upsetting. I would have rather seen something like Doom 3 and better graphics/gameplay.
Seeing how Doom 1 & 2 are one of my favorite retro games this is kind of upsetting. I would have rather seen something like Doom 3 and better graphics/gameplay.
Looks great. Definitely gets the impression of gunplay turning out great here.
Bet things can get far more hectic than in this demo too. Doubt all areas will turn out to play the same. Visually it's a looker. It still suffers from idTech5 genes a bit, but overall I think it's a pretty big leap. Big enough at least. Supposedly a "shader guy" from crytek is on the team now and that shows if that's true.
Bet things can get far more hectic than in this demo too. Doubt all areas will turn out to play the same. Visually it's a looker. It still suffers from idTech5 genes a bit, but overall I think it's a pretty big leap. Big enough at least. Supposedly a "shader guy" from crytek is on the team now and that shows if that's true.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
A vast understatement really. To look at Plutonia Experiment, a total masterclass in game design, and say "it's just good because of nostalgia" is completely absurd.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Good points. I think the enemies kneeling over and glowing when they've taken enough damage isn't the right way to go here, they don't seem to react to most shots and it just looks ridiculous. Not at all the reason why I'd play Doom, which is renowned for its meaty and satisfying gunplay.
Please remove those melee finishers. Not feeling them at all. They might seem like a good idea of paper, but they looks terrible in action.