They look almost exactly the same. Wtf are you talking about lmao
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Female game characters modeled after real-life actresses. What if that's just what the actress looks like without makeup?
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A pick of the male model with face in full view, and the in game model at a great angle.Indeed, that's a wrong picture that doesn't nail it.
This nails it:
I hope "it" is clear now.
A pic of the female model with half her face covered, caked in make up, and very likely tons of photo shop. An in game model of a customizable in game model where quality will obviously suffer. Hmm
AlteredForms
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But that’s the whole point. Reality isn’t perfect and flawless, it has imperfections and that’s perfectly acceptable.
Javthusiast
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Kojimbo always wins.
Danjin44
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That not the imperfection I’m talking about. I'm mostly talking uncanny valley, something try to simulate real life but something is not quit right and off about it and we can easily tell.
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Bonsaibäumchen
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Mattyp
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Borrowing this from the Aloy thread:
Also makeup:
Also instagram filters and facetune:
Don't let social media, magazine covers, and makeup warp your perception of reality.
Why are you posting deadset 4/10 girls without make up saying ReALitY!
There’s millions of 10/10 girls without make up, literally everywhere.
Fbh
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Shit goes both ways Boys
See that's the thing.
If someone doesn't want to play GTAV because they don't like the way the characters look then good for them
No one is having a mental breakdown online because people don't think Trevor is hot.
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Raonak
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It's too late....
. . .still the dumbest moment in comicbook movie history. What a waste of an actor.
Shadowstar39
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What's wrong with quiet. She was awesome. This isnt that reeeeeeeeeee Era site.
.... Looks a few posts down... Oh... Didn't realize there was a discrpency with the model. Still think she looks fine in game. I get defensive with quiet and the ff15 girl and some other characters, as I recall weirdos calling for them to be removed on this here site years ago before the exodus of said weirdos.
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THEAP99
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Please explain to me, what word do you live in where this:
is "way more" accurate than this:
At best, both look accurate but Aloy and her real-life design inspiration are resembled way more in her character model than Jill. Quite honestly, this whole "western games women bad, Japanese games good women" bias is getting really tiring. grow up and take the blinders off, people.
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Shadowstar39
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Guessing you are a younger guy, as no guy I grew up with would ever say they don't like seeing attractive ladies. Or you may not like chicks, nothing wrong with that, if it's so, but why act like us men are being abnormal for liking traditional beauty? Also no one is getting a boner from an attractive game character (usually).
We like what we like. Lara croft in short shorts and lushious thighs with a tank top doing acrobatic jumps and kicking ass... Yes please. Conan the barbarian, red Sonia, 1980s Clyde caldwell fantasy covers yes please. Street Fighter 5, tekken, should calibur, dead or alive characters yes please. Hell Ill even say the lady from control is attractive and has a nice ass (most don't seem to like her, but to me she still seems attractive) Quiet, Tifa, aerith, Rinoa, Yuna, Quistis, Lulu, Kathrine, Catherine, faith, Samus, Zelda, Kate archer, Cassandra, Nariko, Morrigan, etc... These are all classic characters that of made today would be uglified due to the feminist push that's been going on for a while now.
This below, is how Sony used to make some characters and yet we have yet to get a sequel. An amazing game with an amazing character. Full of emotion and beauty. There is nothing wrong with beauty. Classic art has had it for thousands of years, in every culutre except for now in post modern intersectional cult locations its shunned. They want to deconstruct humanity, why I wish I knew.
This agenda started with Sarkisian and crew and with critical theory has infected a generation through academia, it's frankly weird. I've been seeing the slow creep since 2014. This site was so full of it back then, and that migrated to reeee.
Back to horizon. I am not mad at the devs and will play the game, well if somone wants to sell me a ps5 at msrp that is. Otherwise yeah no hardware no buy. Now, that doesn't mean I don't prefer traditional beauty. The thing is I never though of alloy as that. I kinda see her as a teenager so, to me it's not an issue. My issue is the trend, and the people who defend it by equating liking art, beauty and asthetics to porn hub. It's a strawman. You can love beautiful art and not get a boner or want to jerk off. Enough with this bs sjw narrative, but why push virtue signalling and anti beauty.
Why are you and the feminsits OK with the most extreme objectification (porn) yet a traditional beauty is shunned? "Porns and exploitation with all sorts of degernacy fine. Men liking ladies ass in game... Bad"
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MAX PAYMENT
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I think it's extremely naive to assume every male gamer is molester-y toward female video game characters.
? I think they both look extremely accurate. Jill has the exact same face structure, lips, nose, mouth, and eyesPlease explain to me, what word do you live in where this:
is "way more" accurate than this:
At best, both look accurate but Aloy and her real-life design inspiration are resembled way more in her character model than Jill. Quite honestly, this whole "western games women bad, Japanese games good women" bias is getting really tiring. grow up and take the blinders off, people.
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llien
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Oh, the in game angle was not representative, I see. Let me pull legendary edition gifs:
Oh, and let's see 2007 vs 2017, shall we, as in "progress":
luffie
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Lol, and what a bias take. The Jill model is very close to the in game model, you can literally compare it from many angles, but your bias try to take a specific one.Please explain to me, what word do you live in where this:
is "way more" accurate than this:
At best, both look accurate but Aloy and her real-life design inspiration are resembled way more in her character model than Jill. Quite honestly, this whole "western games women bad, Japanese games good women" bias is getting really tiring. grow up and take the blinders off, people.
Western/USA women are generally worse than japanese ones. A heroine like Control will absolutely NOT pass the design stage in asian developers. Meanwhile, using human models, Dearh Stranding manages to produce beautiful quality characters, both male & female. Witcher 3 has absolutely stunning characters too.
This is also one of the reasons I believe why they produce such a shitty sonic, because their taste is just that bad.
GymWolf
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Don't waste your time dude, you know it's a lost cause when someone use camera angle or some shit to defend that andromeda comparison...Oh, the in game angle was not representative, I see. Let me pull legendary edition gifs:
Oh, and let's see 2007 vs 2017, shall we, as in "progress":
cormack12
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This thread:
Also can we drop the stupid focal length argument. It's from a characters point of view. Human eyes don't have focal lengths lol. There are plenty of examples where you transition from first person action scene with another character and they don't look like they've got carpet in their cheeks. Even Call of Duty and Battlefield aren't that ridiculous.
As for the OP, I guess it doesn't really matter. Look at Senua for example. The argument about Aloy is just that she has changed from Zero Dawn and it looks stupid. That's all. It's the same arguments people had about changing Lara's face or Chloes face in Lost Legacy. It's inconsistent and sticks out. And people pick up on it.
And while some of those changes are subtle or not really noticeable in changing the character too much, getting rid of a jawline and adding a neck pouch is. And the only difference while people are losing their shit over Aloy is that people are saying she looks like a heffa in her face. No one was arsed when it was flirty Chloe or cute Lara were they? But say this woman looks a fat in the face then we have a thousand David Lightmans starting global thermonuclear war.
If this was in the Uncharted 5 reveal, the same points would be getting made:
Also can we drop the stupid focal length argument. It's from a characters point of view. Human eyes don't have focal lengths lol. There are plenty of examples where you transition from first person action scene with another character and they don't look like they've got carpet in their cheeks. Even Call of Duty and Battlefield aren't that ridiculous.
As for the OP, I guess it doesn't really matter. Look at Senua for example. The argument about Aloy is just that she has changed from Zero Dawn and it looks stupid. That's all. It's the same arguments people had about changing Lara's face or Chloes face in Lost Legacy. It's inconsistent and sticks out. And people pick up on it.
And while some of those changes are subtle or not really noticeable in changing the character too much, getting rid of a jawline and adding a neck pouch is. And the only difference while people are losing their shit over Aloy is that people are saying she looks like a heffa in her face. No one was arsed when it was flirty Chloe or cute Lara were they? But say this woman looks a fat in the face then we have a thousand David Lightmans starting global thermonuclear war.
If this was in the Uncharted 5 reveal, the same points would be getting made:
Cant wait till till rocksteady shows off suicide squad off properly and harley quinn, especially when in a interview with rocksteady after arkham knight come out, the studio said going forward all the woman in the studio staff no matter what they do there, will have a say in how the woman in there games look like and how they potrayed and act in every game
LegendOfKage
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I didn't hear many complaints about her appearance in the reveal trailer.
PleaseWaitStation4
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Outer Worlds is an all dogs fest.
Punished Miku
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Slowly?
Green_Eyes
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GAF is moving further along into the Reeee transformation I see. If you can't see the agenda against beauty and keep arguing through hackneyed phrases like "Hurr durr, just watch porn" or "I ain't screwin' them herpa derp derp", then you are intentionally misconstruing the issue because you're kinda dead on the inside. A heart that doesn't see beauty and is okay with ugliness in their fantasy environment is a heart that's dying; that's why so many people these days are in love with gory and horror type games.
How can you not see how often devs uglify characters from their real-life counterparts? Why would they INTENTIONALLY do that? Society right now is filled with cop-out 'good deeds'; instead of actually being good people they figure they only need to hide behind the currently, socially 'ethical' stances. Just be down with whatever and BAM, you can parade yourself as a morally upright person and not feel guilty treating everyone else like shit. It's like 'just believe in Jesus (pbuh) and all your sins are forgiven' type ease. It's all surface level, it's all ostentatious, and it's all fake. No one is courageous enough to stand in the middle and work for REAL morality and truth.
Our hearts are inclined to beauty, that's human nature and thus it's NOT something to be destroyed or shamed for. We're not shaming the less attractive; we're not being horny and we're not being misogynistic so stop arguing in black and white. The same reason we love to see amazing graphics and art design in game environments is the same reason we like to see it in the characters themselves...beauty soothes the heart and soul. And if you found this post to be taking things too seriously then grow up out of your immaturity and frivolity. Or to put it simply for all you Dune fans out there, are you a human or are you an animal? Aim higher.
How can you not see how often devs uglify characters from their real-life counterparts? Why would they INTENTIONALLY do that? Society right now is filled with cop-out 'good deeds'; instead of actually being good people they figure they only need to hide behind the currently, socially 'ethical' stances. Just be down with whatever and BAM, you can parade yourself as a morally upright person and not feel guilty treating everyone else like shit. It's like 'just believe in Jesus (pbuh) and all your sins are forgiven' type ease. It's all surface level, it's all ostentatious, and it's all fake. No one is courageous enough to stand in the middle and work for REAL morality and truth.
Our hearts are inclined to beauty, that's human nature and thus it's NOT something to be destroyed or shamed for. We're not shaming the less attractive; we're not being horny and we're not being misogynistic so stop arguing in black and white. The same reason we love to see amazing graphics and art design in game environments is the same reason we like to see it in the characters themselves...beauty soothes the heart and soul. And if you found this post to be taking things too seriously then grow up out of your immaturity and frivolity. Or to put it simply for all you Dune fans out there, are you a human or are you an animal? Aim higher.
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Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Just compare the image on the left to the image on the right. Which one do you think is better masturbatory material?
When I buy video games, I expect, nay, I DEMAND personally tailored pornography like toothpaste model Baraka. Who's with me?
When I buy video games, I expect, nay, I DEMAND personally tailored pornography like toothpaste model Baraka. Who's with me?
HerjansEagleFeeder
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I only now realized Barakka with normal teeth looks eerily like Craig from Halo. Coincidence?
rodrigolfp
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Just compare the image on the left to the image on the right. Which one do you think is better masturbatory material?
When I buy video games, I expect, nay, I DEMAND personally tailored pornography like toothpaste model Baraka. Who's with me?
Play on pc and mod it. Like this:
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ssringo
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I was actually thinking Thanos.
Shadowstar39
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Oh, the in game angle was not representative, I see. Let me pull legendary edition gifs:
Oh, and let's see 2007 vs 2017, shall we, as in "progress":
Please don't tell me that muh Ashley was in Andromeda and became that image on the left? She was my choice for romance back in ME1, don't know why people hated her so much. I thought she had values and conviction. Plus she was a babe, imo:
Plus she got hotter as she aged (Me 1 below and me3 above. Both were my choice. She felt more real than any of the others, imo. )
vpance
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llien
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Solved.
This is, in fact, very cool.
martino
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this is fat Chris PrattSolved.
supernova8
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Actually looks way better as a dude
FromDuskTillGameOver
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Damn, never thought Cliff Bleszinski could make a comeback in the gaming industrySolved.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
much like real people not everyone is attractive (especially people on gaf, who are you all to complain bout attractiveness?) so why not have a medium of "hey these characters look a certain way and these character look a certain way" etc much like real people do.
Danjin44
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Well for me I don't play games for "realism" I play for the fantastical elements it has but thats just me, developers are free to make what they want.
For me its not even about attractive or ugly, I just don't like scan face or Hollywood actor's face in video games, attractive or not.
GymWolf
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Lol it looks much more credible as a man.Solved.
Mister Wolf
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Solved.
There's that masculinity Guerilla was shooting for. Really shows Aloy's inner strength.
GymWolf
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Inb4 people saying: if you put a fake beard and a masculine haircut every woman is gonna look like a man"
Tripolygon
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Sometimes real faces are used like for like in games, sometimes real faces are used for base model upon which the in game character is designed. And other times it is a straight-up fictional character. With the advent of facial mocap, it is advantageous to get the model as close to the mocap actor for easy retargeting without looking exactly the same. Game characters change all the time over sequels.
Also we have reached a critical point in gaming history where representation matters. Other forms of media went through the same thing. A middle-aged white women starred in Returnal, that is dope. I'm all for Alloy having chubby cheeks if thats how they want to change the character. I think this will not be the final design, this is just a semi polished vertical slice to show how they've progressed.
Also we have reached a critical point in gaming history where representation matters. Other forms of media went through the same thing. A middle-aged white women starred in Returnal, that is dope. I'm all for Alloy having chubby cheeks if thats how they want to change the character. I think this will not be the final design, this is just a semi polished vertical slice to show how they've progressed.
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Lord Panda
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