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[Snake29]

It's not on Game Pass or any other subscription service.

Do you think now it's a good measure?

Final Fantasy is a way more casual game in general which could easily sell more then Starfield which will be on Gamepass day one.

 

[leo-j]

Final Fantasy will end up selling more than Starfield.

It actually could because of gamepass, but considering how big Skyrim and fallout are, it could still sell 10 million despite being on gamepass….. idk if FF XVI will sell beyond what XV did, hopefully it does but it depends on marketing post launch

 

[Sub_Level]

Anecdotal but I know two people who want to play it but don’t have a PS5. I imagine PC sales will be healthy too since yoshi-p won’t skimp on port quality (I assume it will be 12-18 months down the road)

 

[sendit]

It already did in physical sales which is kind of impressive to be honest, or perhaps bad for Diablo 4.

I would imagine Diablo got a lot of digital sales on the 5th platform (PC) though so you'd be right that it probably has no chance overall.

Its 2023, winning in physical sales is like winning in the the special olympics.

90% of video game sales in 2022 were digital

Apparently, 90% of video game sales in 2022 were digital. So, where does this leave the future of physical media?

www.gamebyte.com

 

[Three]

Its 2023, winning in physical sales is like winning in the the special olympics.

90% of video game sales in 2022 were digital

Apparently, 90% of video game sales in 2022 were digital. So, where does this leave the future of physical media?

www.gamebyte.com

Sure but it's not like FF16 has no digital sales.

 

[sendit]

Final Fantasy is a way more casual game in general which could easily sell more then Starfield which will be on Gamepass day one.

This is a tough call. Microsoft effectively handicapped Starfields customer base in half by making it console exclusive to Xbox. To put this in perspective, Skyrim (an established franchise) sold over 60 million copies as a multi-platform release spanning multiple generations.

 

[Raonak]

Nice job FF16

 

[Danjin44]

Here for people who actively wanted for FFXVI to fail....

Well fucking deserved, this game could very well be my personal GOTY......but we still have Armoured Core VI coming out.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Great start for FF16.

It's in my top 3 favorite FF games of all time so far. Hope they use this foundation as a way to expand the series going forward with the same directional tone and structure.

 

[johnjohn]

What a title lol, The game actually seems to be performing very poorly.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

What a title lol, The game actually seems to be performing very poorly.

based on what evidence?

anecdotally, my PSN friends list is lit up with people playing FF16. Haven't seen it this in favor of a single game since God of War Ragnarok.

 

[Gideon]

D4 had early access if you bought digital iirc.

 

[Boss Mog]

It would be a crime if this became true. There's less than a 1% chance this becomes true.

It's pretty much a given that it will since most XBOX users will play Starfield via Gamepass.

 

[German Hops]

Swagoo.

 

[demigod]

based on what evidence?

anecdotally, my PSN friends list is lit up with people playing FF16. Haven't seen it this in favor of a single game since God of War Ragnarok.

Based on his post history.

 

[adamsapple]

Physical only #'s

 

[ChiefDada]

Physical only #'s

When compared to Jedi Survivor (Tuesday launch) and RE4 which released multiplatform, that's damn impressive.

 

[willothedog]

based on what evidence?

anecdotally, my PSN friends list is lit up with people playing FF16. Haven't seen it this in favor of a single game since God of War Ragnarok.

that you believe you have people on your friends list

 

[SomeGit]

I might be wrong, but that headline doesn't seem all that great. Diablo 4's most hardcore market is PC so most sales were digital on Battle.net and Dead Island 2 didn't really set the world on fire.

I assume that the good word of mouth will keep sales high, but unless digital sales are much much better seems like a weak launch.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Physical only #'s

That makes it look really great. Let’s hope word of mouth and digital numbers pull through in the near and medium term.

Truly great game.

 

[BlueLyria]

Btw, FFXV and FF7R aren't good ways to compare to 16, because one was shown and hyped for like, almost 10 years, please remember versus XII and the other is a remake of the most popular title in the franchise

 

[Thirty7ven]

Btw, FFXV and FF7R aren't good ways to compare to 16, because one was shown and hyped for like, almost 10 years, please remember versus XII and the other is a remake of the most popular title in the franchise

FF15 being a complete disappointment with little redeeming qualities doesn’t help either.

But people like to forget context when it suits their agenda.

 

[MikeM]

Holding out for PC. Performance mode seems to unstable for me to consider.

 

[Metnut]

We’ll have to wait for the numbers but looks like it’s going to be a bit short of FF15.

Doesn’t say anything regarding the quality of FF16, IMO it’s a product of FF13 and FF15 being duds and the game only releasing for one platform (and early in this gen when there’s been a hardware shortage).

The positive general reception to FF16 should rebuild the FF brand even if this game only sells good and not great.

 

[Fabieter]

That you need the digital results of Diablo 4 and those of FFXVI to draw conclusions but, apparently, that doesn't matter to open threads like this...

Both will have high digital split in the UK. Every game has but including pc there is no way beating diablo but that also not necessary.

 

[fallingdove]

Deserved. FFXVI is pretty incredible. Best modern FF story, dialogue and voice acting. Super deep/rewarding combat.

Top 5 final fantasies without breaking a sweat.

 

[Fabieter]

In addition I strongly believe that if sqaure said it was a fully playstation exclusive forever it would be alot higher. It wasn't safe that xv would get a pc version at the time and especially not that fast.

 

[Wesleyalucard]

How does this compare to ragnarok?

 

[Woopah]

How does this compare to ragnarok?

Ragnarok was around 145,000

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

In addition I strongly believe that if sqaure said it was a fully playstation exclusive forever it would be alot higher. It wasn't safe that xv would get a pc version at the time and especially not that fast.

only diamonds are forever.

 

[Zathalus]

In addition I strongly believe that if sqaure said it was a fully playstation exclusive forever it would be alot higher. It wasn't safe that xv would get a pc version at the time and especially not that fast.

If the game had released on PC at launch it would have been far higher as well, assuming a decent PC version that is. There is a rather large FF fanbase on PC considering FF14.

 

[ArtHands]

 

[drganon]

What a title lol, The game actually seems to be performing very poorly.

 

[Corndog]

Anecdotal but I know two people who want to play it but don’t have a PS5. I imagine PC sales will be healthy too since yoshi-p won’t skimp on port quality (I assume it will be 12-18 months down the road)

If it’s that long it will hurt pc sales. Should have launched day one.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

The further you get into FFXVI the more incredible it becomes. I must be about 1/4 of the way in and its the most ambitious game of the gen for me already.

 

[German Hops]

Great sales for the greatest game ever.

 

[ProtoByte]

As discussed before, the positive critical reception and word of mouth will give this game disproportionately stronger legs than XV. But also as said before, and now entirely vindicated, the reasons why pre-orders and hype were low before was because of how games of this nature look.

That PS2-PS3 era combat/design and plain fantasy look do not hype up or impress these days solely by appearance. For all of their deep, deep flaws, Fabula Nova Crystallis FF games had an inherent mystique that caught and kept people's attention.

 

[graywolf323]

I mean after the let down of FFXV, to still have currently the 5th biggest launch of the year in the UK seems pretty solid?

the only games it trails are two of the biggest IP on the planet (Star Wars + Harry Potter), the remake of one of the best games ever (RE4) and the highly anticipated sequel to what is widely considered one of the best games of all-time (Zelda)

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

-FFXV launched on a Tues, XVI on a Thurs
-Digital sales then vs now
-PS5 only vs PS4/XB1

I get the impression XVI is going to get much better word of mouth and have longer legs.

 

[SEGA_2012]

I blame the combat system. Time to go back to turn based combat ASAP.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I blame the combat system. Time to go back to turn based combat ASAP.

Your argument doesn't make sense, XV had action combat and awful action combat at that. XVI combat is far more engaging and polished.

I have a friend who was a diehard turnbased fan that is loving XVI.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

second week drop gonna be interesting.

 

[Aenima]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/fina...es-beat-diablo-4s-and-dead-island-2s.1658188/

 

[adamsapple]

I blame the combat system. Time to go back to turn based combat ASAP.

Turn based would sell even less..

 

[bender]

Turn based would sell even more.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/fina...es-beat-diablo-4s-and-dead-island-2s.1658188/

Seriously, this thread is totally misleading

 

[ckaneo]

Go woke go broke

 

[Brock2621]

Playing it now…. Game is so good. Production value is off the charts

 

[Kilau]

I’ll get it at some point after patches and discount.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/fina...es-beat-diablo-4s-and-dead-island-2s.1658188/

so....is one of those things you can use to fit the narrative you like?