The way in which he talked about the fifth playable character makes me think that will be the entire gang.
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Final Fantasy XV Dengeki Info: More Sequel Teasing, Tons of Characters
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The way in which he talked about the fifth playable character makes me think that will be the entire gang.
The whole serialization/sequel teasing is kind of worrying. I don't think I have many good examples of story heavy RPG with direct sequels where the plot didn't get worse as sequels got released.
Maybe they should wait to see how people will react to the game when they play XV unless they want another XIII-2 scenario.
The plot in the XIII games is kind of awful at this point. The story in the Mass Effect got worse with each new installments and was basically close to fan fiction level by the time the credits started rolling. Xenosaga plot got more difficult to understand with each new game. Even X-2 had a worse plot than X.
At least if they are thinking about making sequels at this point they can think of the whole plot of the "series" in advance and they won't have to make up stuff as they go.
The part about using the gimmick from each console isn't new. They were already doing so on 360/PS3. You would unlock Avatar Items/Gamerpics/profile pic/XMB Theme depending on your platform.
Maybe they should wait to see how people will react to the game when they play XV unless they want another XIII-2 scenario.
The plot in the XIII games is kind of awful at this point. The story in the Mass Effect got worse with each new installments and was basically close to fan fiction level by the time the credits started rolling. Xenosaga plot got more difficult to understand with each new game. Even X-2 had a worse plot than X.
At least if they are thinking about making sequels at this point they can think of the whole plot of the "series" in advance and they won't have to make up stuff as they go.
The part about using the gimmick from each console isn't new. They were already doing so on 360/PS3. You would unlock Avatar Items/Gamerpics/profile pic/XMB Theme depending on your platform.
brandonh83
Banned
Not a fan of sequels to individual installments. What used to be so great was that each game was a complete journey with a finale and conclusion. It made them feel huge. It's taken so long to get this game as it is, and the idea of the story not even concluding in it bugs me, as well as worries me in relation to the coherency of the plot. I realize most FF game stories are whacky or whatever but when you set that aside they usually had some great moments and were easy enough to understand.
This doesn't sit well with me, regardless of not knowing how the story plays out. So on those merits perhaps I should bite my tongue until I know more, but it's not like I have a promising history to go buy either.
This doesn't sit well with me, regardless of not knowing how the story plays out. So on those merits perhaps I should bite my tongue until I know more, but it's not like I have a promising history to go buy either.
Seven Force
Banned
I'll definitely take regular (if not slightly redundant) updates over months of radio silence.
brandonh83
Banned
FFX-2 soured the idea of sequels to me. While I enjoyed FFXIII-2 and even aspects of its story, as well as its relatively ballsy conclusion, it wasn't quite enough to make me reconsider my stance on the idea of story sequels. We'll see what FFXIII-3 does but...
Oh wow, I totally mixed up the dates in my head lol (thought VII was 95, VIII 99 and IX 01).
Same here. Make up for all those years of nothing!
To think we could possibly have been at like FFXIX or FFXX right now...
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
It's so crazy that could be real considering how S-E managed to ruin X, XII and XIII's universes with its sequels ahah!
Poor Lightning. I am really liking her in my play through of XIII. I'll be jumping on XIII-2 right after I finish.
Of course not. If you don't remember, Square Enix was developing XIII and its sequels, XIV, Versus XIII and Type-0, all big scale FF games, simultaneously. If it wasn't for XIV 1.0 and the clusterfuck it created, we could probably have had the next mainline FF not VsXIII/XV by now. They are 100% surely already working on Final Fantasy XVI. FFXV and KHIII cannot be all that they are working on for the next 2-3 years and we know they have people like Ito not doing anything we know of and Tabata only co-directing FFXV who have not revealed what (else) they are working on atm. FFXV is possibly for 2014, a sequel would happen no earlier than 2016, probably 2017, they will have FF games between 2014 and 2016/2017, big ones even.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well if it's good i have no problems with a sequel but i don't trust SE when comes to there stories being any good .
But that is a character, not the concept of a sequel.
People should be able to separate that.
Zoe
Member
I don't want to know if she'll be playable :\
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
She is definitely one of the best characters in the series. It's just that S-E ruined her with the sequel (she's another character) and by forcing her everywhere in a couple of years. People grew tired of her.
Bless. Stella has so much power people are willing to skip her origin game just to play her. Dat dedication
Green Mamba
Member
I feel fairly certain that Stella is either a playable character or the main antagonist. I don't think they'd be giving her so much screentime and placing as much importance on her if she wasn't.
aramanKain
Member
The mythos surrounding FNC allows them to take many different creative paths to the stories told within. I feel XIII-2's plot was forced, but not outside the bounds of the FNC mythos they formed for themselves, with LR finishing off the "13 Arc" of FNC and XV starting a whole new one. I'm ok with this, personally.This is what I hate about not making these games self-contained. You almost always end up with one of two scenarios:
1. The game ends either in a cliffhanger, or with a substantial amount of loose plot threads in order to drive interest in the sequel.
2. The game comes to a complete conclusion, and the sequel generates some forced conflict in order to build another story.
Sequels to FF games have typically followed the latter approach (X-2 and XIII-2), since they weren't originally planned when the first games were written. XV's story was also written a while ago before they had any sequel intentions, but they could intentionally sever the story since they've decided on sequels so far before release.
I really wish they would just completely conclude this story in one game. I know they want to reuse assets and gameplay systems in future games so they can lower their development costs, but in that case I would just prefer to see them tell an entirely separate story set in that world, with a completely new cast, etc. They can still reuse the environment assets, combat system, etc. Perhaps it could even be a story that was happening concurrently with the events of the first game, which would be pretty interesting. Unfortunately, I'm 99% sure we're going to see one of the two approaches I outlined above.
Nah Promto in a dress.
The problem being... those are Toriyama games. I know KHs are not much better in that way, but Nomura's said XV's story will be relatively simple so there's hopefully no fear of convoluted time travel or changing world rules as drastic as in XIII saga, where it goes feom somewhat simple to time travel to 500 years later Apocalypse. XV has potential for a more Matsuno like approach, it's the first time someone else would make straight mainline FF sequels.
how is XII ruined?
XII, Tactics, Vagrant Story...? Don't know how Revenant Wings turned out but it seems easy to dismiss.
Dark Octave
Banned
Hopefully someday we will see a chocobo in Final Fantasy again.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I wanna play as the black haired chick. Guess I'll wait for FXV-3.
Seriously though Nomura says first party.
What if Chocobo is the car make/model O_O
DarkLordMalik
Member
I hope we have them in FF XV. Perhaps, as domestic animals in village like Hens.
What on Earth are you talking about? XIII & XIII-2 have chocobos, as does Type-0 and FFXIV. XII also had chocobos. Versus XIII was also confirmed to have them, so XV will have them.
X is the only mainline game that didn't have them in any significant proportion, yet it also had them.
SolidSnakex
Member
They should still be in XV a Nomura said that they were in Versus during one of the last updates for when it went by that name.
they already said chocobos will be in the game
PlanetSmasher
Banned
This is true, but this game is trying to tell a serious story in a realistic world. Having a nine-year-old girl (who is, of course, "actually 18 years old" so the pervs can't get arrested) running around fighting giant monsters with a building-sized sword and flashing her panties every five seconds would ruin that realism.
This is all hot air and hype. Their visions are becoming more and more grandiose; meanwhile, they can't even push out a finished product. They could have pushed out an entire trilogy of games in the time they spent working on XV, talk about counting your eggs before they hatch.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
It's not exactly Nomura's fault that Square kept prioritizing XIII and XIV over Versus the entire gen and taking his staff away to work on those projects instead.
When have chocobos disappeared? Versus XIII was confirmed to have chocobos a long time ago along with airships and cars, plus you can walk on foot if you like to explore that way.
demosthenes
Member
How is the share button a gimmick?
LFC. Lucis Fried Chocobo. Sounds yum.
Because some see it as something that isn't necessary to the experience of playing a game
They didn't start production until 2011. So they are pretty much right on track. Everything before that was pre-production and the CGI proof of concepts.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
She will be, but she's not a main character. Nomura said she's an early-game boss fight and little else.
sublimit
Banned
Ah that sucks man! :/ i love dragoons.
Enemies are based off a job system I believe.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Kingdom Hearts II did that as well - all the Nobodies were patterned after FF job classes.
Prompto is the only one who can aim apparently. lol.