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Final Fantasy XVI - your expectations after the great success of Final Fantasy XV
Thabass
Member
Yes. As a matter of fact, that was the reason why I loved it so much. You still need to party up and do dungeons and harder content with people, but, it's so worth it. A Realm Reborn is a bit slow in the story and has a lot of issues, but they were working with a more limited budget and fixing an already terrible story.
Heavensward and beyond (especially Shadowbringers) has CEMENTED FFXIV as one of the best Final Fantasy games out there today. It's personally my #1 Final Fantasy game.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Is FFXV really a great success ?
I personally found it a chore to play after the first dozen hours
I personally found it a chore to play after the first dozen hours
DelireMan7
Member
And how the story is delivered mainly ? Text or cutscene/dialogue. The "full text mode" of some MMO turned me off
Thabass
Member
And how the story is delivered mainly ? Text or cutscene/dialogue. The "full text mode" of some MMO turned me off
There's a lot of text, but the main story stuff and some of the quests are voiced.
DelireMan7
Member
Ok thanks. I'll try to give it a try at the free version
. I heard to many good feedback for not testing it
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
My expectations are pretty low... Have been that way since they went with their new combat systems in 12.
Just not what I want in my final fantasy. I want a traditional turn based rpg with a huge but understandable story.
Essentially I want final fantasy 1-9 back.
Just not what I want in my final fantasy. I want a traditional turn based rpg with a huge but understandable story.
Essentially I want final fantasy 1-9 back.
sublimit
Banned
FFX also fits your discription.
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HaveButOneLife
Banned
I respectfully disagree and will just leave it there.
This I agree with, Luna dying left me disappointed, and I'm sure the DLC's didn't even address it besides maybe some odd amount of time in Episode Ignis somewhere but that's just me guessing, I only beat the main game so far but I'll definitely play it again for the DLC's.
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Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I guess... Except it was pretty meh. Definitely the first crack in the armour.FFX also fits your discription.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I see right through your gimmick.
sublimit
Banned
I very much disagree...but each to his own.
Thabass
Member
Ok thanks. I'll try to give it a try at the free version
Awesome. Just remember, the story is pretty weak in ARR, so don't judge it too harshly. Once you get to level 50+ it gets much better, but still getting to Heavensward makes everything better.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Two annoying topics about FFXV from the same guy?
ethomaz
Banned
He is back from a ban related with FFXV
Quezacolt
Member
That was only a tech demo, same as the FF7 techdemo for the ps3
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I personally not much fan of FFXV, so I'm hoping SE kind of move away from that direction. I think its about time we get some more Fantasy setting rather than modern or futuristic setting.
Similar to this..
Even Atlus who usually have modern Tokyo setting are making much more fantasy setting on their next game.
Project Re Fantasy (hopefully we get some news from this game soon)
Similar to this..
Even Atlus who usually have modern Tokyo setting are making much more fantasy setting on their next game.
Project Re Fantasy (hopefully we get some news from this game soon)
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PPIMystaceus
Member
FFXV has it's flaws, but I enjoyed it overall to be honest.
DelireMan7
Member
Fuz
Banned
Play IX.
jshackles
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Ixion
Member
The main thing is that FFXVI needs to have a relatively smooth and focused development compared to literally every mainline Final Fantasy after FFX (excluding the MMO titles). That was the last mainline Final Fantasy with a relatively quick, smooth, development period and that shows.
I love FFXII, but the director change halfway through the long development period resulted in underdeveloped aspects of the story. Then for both FFXIII and FFXV, the in-house engine caused a lot of development issues. FFXIII was so one-dimensional because, according to the director, they didn't have time to focus on anything else besides fighting monsters due to how long it took to just get the in-house engine working correctly. And then FFXV was basically like two completely different games (the first 2/3s VS the last 1/3) because of both the engine difficulties and the director change.
So hopefully the use of Unreal Engine smooths things out for Square-Enix going forward and allows them to truly focus on making a modernized version of the classic Final Fantasy experience. Something with both a strong cinematic story and a rich explorable world (that doesn't involve spending 40% of your time riding in a car like the first 2/3s of FFXV). And yeah, I agree it's time to lose the sci-fi and go back to a fantasy setting.
I love FFXII, but the director change halfway through the long development period resulted in underdeveloped aspects of the story. Then for both FFXIII and FFXV, the in-house engine caused a lot of development issues. FFXIII was so one-dimensional because, according to the director, they didn't have time to focus on anything else besides fighting monsters due to how long it took to just get the in-house engine working correctly. And then FFXV was basically like two completely different games (the first 2/3s VS the last 1/3) because of both the engine difficulties and the director change.
So hopefully the use of Unreal Engine smooths things out for Square-Enix going forward and allows them to truly focus on making a modernized version of the classic Final Fantasy experience. Something with both a strong cinematic story and a rich explorable world (that doesn't involve spending 40% of your time riding in a car like the first 2/3s of FFXV). And yeah, I agree it's time to lose the sci-fi and go back to a fantasy setting.
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Bathtub Fart
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I keep avoiding ff15 because I keep hearing the story is rubbish and there is virtually no challenge.
Ixion
Member
The first 2/3s of FFXV are all about driving around the open-world completing quests, while the last 1/3 is much more linear and cinematic. I personally found the last 1/3 to be much more enjoyable. The story finally started to get focused and kick into high gear and there were some truly epic sequences and scenes. It was just faster paced and more gripping, taking you through a bunch of diverse locales at a smooth clip, which really made it feel more like Final Fantasy to me. The story for those first 2/3s definitely feels odd and too casual considering what happens at the beginning of the game.
So yeah, for FFXVI they need to marry those two approaches (open world exploration and a cinematic story/adventure) into something greater.
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Bathtub Fart
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Well maybe I'll give it a try since it's on gamepass. It just looks beautiful.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Aren't they planning for FFXVI to be an MMO thing?
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FFXV is a pretty game but I stopped halfway through it because I couldn't keep myself invested in it.
I miss my RPG series with charm.
*laughs in DQXI*
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FFXV is a pretty game but I stopped halfway through it because I couldn't keep myself invested in it.
I miss my RPG series with charm.
*laughs in DQXI*
Vawn
Banned
D.Final
Banned
Personally I think that Final Fantasy XV has one of the best ending of the entire series.
So I think that you can enjoy that ending too.
Vawn
Banned
It's crap.
D.Final
Banned
Vawn
Banned
No.
D.Final
Banned
What is your problem?!
It's just my opinion in the end.
If you don't want accept it then moving on and simply ignoring it.
kiphalfton
Member
If it's just an opinion, then why do you get your panties in a wad whenever somebody disagrees with you about FFXV? How about you take your own advice and "move on and simply ignore it".
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Since there was suppose to be a line of clothing fashion based on FFXV, I can't help but feel the modern setting was just an excuse to have realistic clothing that they could sell as merchandise.
D.Final
Banned
And that's exactly what I'm already doing.
But it is obvious that if the discussion always focuses on:
A: I think this 1
B: I think this is 2 not 1
A: for me it is 1
B: instead it is 2
A useless diatribe would go on forever.
On the other hand, if B accepted or simply ignored what A said, the opinion disputes would not even begin. And it would be better for everyone.
Anyway, it's better to go back to talking about the expectations on Final Fantasy XVI now.
It is one of the original concept ideas of Nomura born from the the Versus XIII concept and carried on to
Final Fantasy XV project.
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DelireMan7
Member
Eventually, I want to play all the mainline "modern" FF (post VI). So I'll play IX. I look up quite a bit of info/reviews on each game to decide which one I want to play next and IX seems like a really strong contender.
Last year, I played VI for the first time. Really great but some system (like the gear/inventory) are a bit old and frustrated me a bit. However it stands my expectation and they were quite high.
The next one will be XII. It picks my curiosity since years and I found it on a very good deal last year.
After that I'll see... Actually except for VIII, I am really interested in all the remaining (IX, XIIIs, XIV). And don't know why but despite all the bad things I heard about XIIIs, I really want to play them.
Also I might play a second run of XV.
But first I have to finish Xenoblade Chronicles (at least 30/40 hours remaining...). Extremely good so far !
The only thing good in XV is that it’s better than 13, but ok because we can debate if breaking a bone is better or not than 13.
For 16 square better level up their game, doesn’t need a bigger budget, last DQ I bet had a small budget in comparison and while not being perfect it hits all the right notes.
Square needs that self evaluation make a FF in line with 9 or 6, make a story simple on main plot and complex between characters, modern take on atb battle.
For 16 square better level up their game, doesn’t need a bigger budget, last DQ I bet had a small budget in comparison and while not being perfect it hits all the right notes.
Square needs that self evaluation make a FF in line with 9 or 6, make a story simple on main plot and complex between characters, modern take on atb battle.
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KiteGr
Member
The series has gone downhill since 10.
I don't count the online games since I've played only some of ff14 at it's abysmal beginning, and by the time it became good, I had jumped to GW2 for my MMO needs and never looked back.
As for the main line single player games:
If you want my opinion, the brand is VERY damaged.
The only thing that would convince me to take another FF game seriously, is if they put someone as crazy and dearing as Yoko Taro to direct it.
I don't count the online games since I've played only some of ff14 at it's abysmal beginning, and by the time it became good, I had jumped to GW2 for my MMO needs and never looked back.
As for the main line single player games:
- FF10 was incomplete, but it was a "good incomplete" that you wouldn't notice it was unfinished unless you looked deep into it.
- FF10-2 had an amazing battle system, but every thing alse was badly delivered fanservice designed to sell strategy guides.
- FF12... I never managed to finish that despite multiple attempts. It's boring and repetitive and the MC shouldn't even exist.
- FF13 Had all this amazing graphics and production, but it was simplified to a fault. The world was designed like a decorated hallway with little interaction, the story was hidden in texted encyclopedias and the combat system pretty much revolved around playing with a switch.
- The FF13 sequels tried to fix the issues the main game had, but by that point, the original gad told everything that needed to be told.
- FF15 was an incomplete mess. It's story bits where scattered in multiple medium and dlcs and each had to be bought seperatelly. It was a salvage attempt at a project stucked in development hell.
If you want my opinion, the brand is VERY damaged.
The only thing that would convince me to take another FF game seriously, is if they put someone as crazy and dearing as Yoko Taro to direct it.
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mcz117chief
Member
What about the Type-0 style? Each nation having its own style. You got one diesel-punk, one medieval, one ancient and one magic heavy mixed with industrial revolution aesthetics nations. I really enjoyed the incredible diversity of enemies, characters, weapons, environments, ideas etc.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
That actually isn’t bad idea, I just don’t want another “reality base fantasy” or whatever FFXV was going for. I want more fantastical, almost magical art direction.
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royox
Member
Also XIII was a success. High Sales numbers just because of hype and brand name don't talk about how damaged a brand can be and XV left a wound in the saga. Thanks god we have shadowbringers to keep our hopes.
Quezacolt
Member
If we go by that logic, the games that EA puts out must be masterpieces.
Fuz
Banned
IX is the best FF after 7.
XII is... artistically good, but the writing is extremely weak.
News flash: gamers are dumb and buy any hyped piece of crap.
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