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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Thanks, any specific team you recommend?
kuroneko0509
Member
you're just unlucky
Several times in a roll?!
theprodigy
Member
If it's Lilith she might have reached her caps, you'll have to upgrade her spot to get more stats but even then you'll eventually run into the final caps.
You need some tanks for sure, so Benny+Charlotte and Arthur+Effie. They soak up the hits, and then you have your other units sweep in for the kill when its your turn. The idea is that they'll never get past Benny and Arthur, so the rest of your units are there for the mop up and out of harms reach. So a lot of range. And I'd say bring at least one flier that can fly Nilas up the mountain to shoot down the 2 Wyverns that are armed with hammers. Watch out for the soldiers with Armorslayer and Wyrmslayer. Make sure your tanks have vulnerarys or your healers have long range heals. But yeah maneuvering back and forth around that mountain pass with the fort while having a steady frontline was the key for me.
This makes sense. Thanks!
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
In my Conquest playthrough, Lilith has gotten about at least TEN level ups with no stat growths at all. Zip. Zero. I wonder if it's a glitch, because she sucks hardcore now and she's about level 18.
kuroneko0509
Member
ahh it's Lilith.. i guess i didn't realized that 'certain being' lol
Lilith's growths are not random. If she's not getting any stats, she's at her cap.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Oh. Well, she's basically screwed now, I guess. Oops.
Yeah I had a few level ups without any stats. I believe they are tied to her sanctuary level. I had a lvl 2/silver for her and once I hit like lvl 50 she just stopped getting anything. Then once I upgraded her santuary to lvl 3/Gold she was getting stats again, and normally a point in each or at least 3/4 of her stats, and now just shy of 80 she's maxed out save for her HP which is at 58. So I wouldn't say you're screwed there seems to be more than enough leeway and extra levels to totally max her out.
You need to upgrade her temple to break her cap.
pokemonsquared
Banned
Playing through conquest after birthright, Man Xander is such a dissapointment after Ryoma. Neither Leo or Camilla comes close to Takumi in sheer damage output either.
Sure he's tanky as fuck but Ryoma doubles pretty much everyone, crits all the time, and dodges most hits anyways. Not to mention Raijinto is fucking broken with its 2 range.
Sure he's tanky as fuck but Ryoma doubles pretty much everyone, crits all the time, and dodges most hits anyways. Not to mention Raijinto is fucking broken with its 2 range.
theprodigy
Member
rofl Camilla is the best unit not named Corrin, and yes that's including Ryoma
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Bow users destroy her, though, which is a huge weakness Ryoma does not have.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
He solo'd the final chapter for me. I mean, he was paired up with someone. But he basically went into the most powerful group of units in the main game and destroyed them all.
theprodigy
Member
does not matter
she has flight he doesn't, also has more availability and stays ahead of the level curve due to that sweet -5 internal level modifier
The point is being that if she gets hit by a bow she dies. Doesn't really matter movement wise if you can't take on a group of archers by yourself unlike Ryoma whose stupid sword is essentially a ranged silver sword with no drawbacks.
theprodigy
Member
yes Ryoma's combat is overkill
doesn't matter
you see, if Falcon Knights had swords, Ryoma would be better off reclassing to it, flying weakness or not
pokemonsquared
Banned
The biggest difference I've noticed betwen the two versions after having beaten birthright and 15 chapters of conquest was that in birthright I ended up with a core of uber units (Corrin, Ryoma, Takumi, Scarlet, Hana, Rhajat) who could stroll in and demolish waves and waves of enemies unscathed while the rest wasn't really necessary while in conquest there's been far fewer super units and by extension everyone has to pull more weight, can't just stack everyone on a safe tile while Corrin and Ryoma single handedly clears entire groups of enemies by themselves while Takumi and rhakat nukes enemies from a distance.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
This is definitely true. Even Kaze and Silas, two of the uber units from Birthright, feel much less capable in Conquest. It also feels like pairing every character up is heavily discouraged, because if you essentially halve your offense, many maps become that much more difficult. You have to think more strategically. Who should I pair up with who? Who is too weak to go on their own? How do I place my units to attack the enemy so that they get pairing bonuses while still remaining safe enough to survive? These are all questions that you're never forced to ask in Birthright, whereas in Conquest you find yourself constantly considering them.
wut. How can you not like Setsuna?
victreeb3l
Member
One benefit of restarting Birthright is using characters and pairs I didnt utilize on my first playthrough. I'm surprised at how good Orochi is and her supports with Corrin are great. She was wrecking dudes and leveled up rather quickly.
Still havent used Setsuna or Azama that much yet. Poor Hinoka, gets two of the most uninteresting characters as retainers.
Still havent used Setsuna or Azama that much yet. Poor Hinoka, gets two of the most uninteresting characters as retainers.
Azama's the biggest troll in the game.
Aaronrules380
Member
Why would you drop Ryoma, dude is a fucking god on the battlefield
This is so sacrilegious. Ryoma is the GOAT
Ascenion
Member
Seriously! I've literally cleared a map using only Ryoma and Felicia paired. He killed like 30 units unscathed. Ryoma is a god.
He's a lobster man
My team was filling up with favorites already, how was I supposed to fit a lobster in.
The only shame is that it means I'll not see his Supports until after beating the story. I may grow to like him, but getting past his outer shell (harhar) is too difficult.
My team was filling up with favorites already, how was I supposed to fit a lobster in.
The only shame is that it means I'll not see his Supports until after beating the story. I may grow to like him, but getting past his outer shell (harhar) is too difficult.
Aaronrules380
Member
He's a lobster that brings death and destruction to all your foes. And lobsters are awesome. But seriously, You can send him, unpaired, into a swarm of enemy units and then just watch them all die as they try futilely to beat him
You take that back.
People actually use Ryoma instead of benching him permanently? Indecent.
pokemonsquared
Banned
I used setsuna then Takumi came in who pretty much does quadruple the damage and can't be hindered by terrain.
Out she goes.
Out she goes.
Aaronrules380
Member
He's an unstoppable force of walking death. Why wouldn't I use him. Even though my Corrin was probably better by the end of Birthright, Ryoma still had some advantages, most notably the 1-2 range
DecoReturns
Member
You can activate Dragon Fang and Critcal hits at the same time?
Well chapter. 25 was a cake walk. 4 turns.
I'm gonna reset, that was way too lucky and I miss out on the chests.
Well chapter. 25 was a cake walk. 4 turns.
I'm gonna reset, that was way too lucky and I miss out on the chests.
Crawdads are cooler. If he was a crawdad man I'd re-consider.
Nah, but really, I can send Sophie, Silas, or Hinoka into groups and watch as nobody dies in the turn. Which means I can then level up other people instead of just Ryoma.
@ the above, I use Setsuna and Takumi. Can never have too many archers in a game. Bows are cool. B)
victreeb3l
Member
Ryoma makes Birthright way too easy.
Guess I'm pairing these two!
I dont dislike her but as soon as I got Takumi da gawd, I had no use for her.
Guess I'm pairing these two!
I dont dislike her but as soon as I got Takumi da gawd, I had no use for her.
He's had my favorite support conversations in the game. Helps that he's been extremely useful on the battlefield too.
Woo, finally beat Birthright!
I YOLO'd the last two chapters and ended up losing about five units. I don't think I have the gumption to do Conquest on Classic - I'm sure I could pull it off eventually, but I just don't have the patience to lose so many hours to resetting. Considering a Normal/Casual run for Conquest, then back to Normal/Classic for Revelations.
Also, who knows if I'll ever play Conquest - I'm tempted to put the game down for the while since I just beat Birthright, and I have plenty of other things to play, but if I do that I might keep Conquest on the back burner for so long that I never end up playing it.
I YOLO'd the last two chapters and ended up losing about five units. I don't think I have the gumption to do Conquest on Classic - I'm sure I could pull it off eventually, but I just don't have the patience to lose so many hours to resetting. Considering a Normal/Casual run for Conquest, then back to Normal/Classic for Revelations.
Also, who knows if I'll ever play Conquest - I'm tempted to put the game down for the while since I just beat Birthright, and I have plenty of other things to play, but if I do that I might keep Conquest on the back burner for so long that I never end up playing it.
Xenoflare
Member
Yep, you even get a special animation too
If you're going for a eugenics run, marrying anyone who isn't a Corrinsexual/2nd gen unit as male Corrin is a bad idea since you miss out on a child unit.
DecoReturns
Member
And Rayoma missed 4 Astra strikes when he had like 77% hit rate
I only used 2 turrets really, Azura just refreshed the main turret or anyone who needed it. You do want someone guarding the third turret, and remember that your objective is to block them from the green area, so in the last 2 turns you can just block, backup and heal, and rescue your allies so they dont die. No need to fight every enemy at that point
robotzombie
Member
Couple questions:
1. Are the capturable characters any good? I'm particularly interested in
2. How do you actually capture people?
3. Are there any actual walkthroughs anywhere yet? Not really for strategy so much as "oh on this stage make sure x character doesn't die, or this character is capturable, etc."
1. Are the capturable characters any good? I'm particularly interested in
Haitaka, Daichi, and Nichol
2. How do you actually capture people?
3. Are there any actual walkthroughs anywhere yet? Not really for strategy so much as "oh on this stage make sure x character doesn't die, or this character is capturable, etc."