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Halo Infinite gameplay was running on a PC, not on Series X
eastwood333
Banned
Cross gen development. Developing for two platforms. Going open world etc.... can be for many reasons. New engine.
Ascend
Member
I wasn't aware Gears 5 had an insane setting. So that's fair enough. Then again, which current PC graphics card runs insane settings at 4K 60fps? Only the 2080Ti. The 2080S doesn't manage that.
So my statements still stand. Unless they were using a 2080Ti, Halo Infinite can look better on the XSX than the demo we were shown. Emphasis on the word CAN. I'm not saying that it WILL.
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eastwood333
Banned
And i mentioned plenty of PS5 1st party games with no gameplay...DS remaster, Spiderman, HZD2, GT
If it was indeed running on PC, I can actually forgive the hitching and frame pacing type stutters because that shit can boil down to drivers or custom settings in the video control panel being set wrong.
Also, if it was running on PC, then I don't expect DF to do a framerate analysis video since it doesn't matter..
Also, if it was running on PC, then I don't expect DF to do a framerate analysis video since it doesn't matter..
Senua
Gold Member
I wasn't aware Gears 5 had an insane setting. So that's fair enough. Then again, which current PC graphics card runs insane settings at 4K 60fps? Only the 2080Ti. The 2080S doesn't manage that.
So my statements still stand. Unless they were using a 2080Ti, Halo Infinite can look better on the XSX than the demo we were shown.
Mate by the looks of it I could run Halo Infinite on my old 8800GT
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Pretty sure the only first party games with no gameplay were HZD2 and Demon's Souls
Ratchet had gameplay, GT had gameplay, Spiderman had gameplay, Returnal had gameplay
eastwood333
Banned
Can u post the footage?
Psykodad
Banned
What XSX gameplay was there?
At least Sony had R&C and GT7 gameplay running on actual PS5.
If MS has Halo gameplay running on PC, it's safe to assume all trailers were in-engine on PC.
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REE Machine
Banned
Fuck me this is even worse then, please tell me it was running on a 94 mac?
eastwood333
Banned
Spiderman got a cinematic trailer
Ascend
Member
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
It was a cinematic trailer mixed with in-game cutscenes and gameplay
chilichote
Member
eastwood333
Banned
Oh ok, i was wrong on GT. I though the gameplay was shorter than that. So Ratchet and GT got gameplay. Spiderman(launches this holiday), HZD2, and DS remaster didn't get any game play. My point remains. Sony, nor MS showed off much gameplay at their events. Many 3rd party games have not shown gameplay. Covid has no doubt heavily affected development.
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eastwood333
Banned
No. That was cinematic trailer. 1 second of possible footage is laughable. Its a holiday launch title.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Enthusiasm is driven by the people who do. We saw it in 2013. Imagine if the XSX reveal was so amazing that everyone on twitter, YT, Twitch, just couldn't stop talking about how great it was. That would definitely be a big deal and would help MS considerably when they opened up preorders.
You're right about price, but I'm assuming they will be priced the same right now.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Lets look at the big first-party stuff from both sides in terms of what they showed
Halo Infinite - Included Gameplay
Forza - No Gameplay
Avowed - No Gameplay
Fable - No Gameplay
State of Decay 3 - No Gameplay
Sony
Ratchet - Included Gameplay
Spiderman - Included Gameplay
Returnal - Included Gameplay
GT - Included Gameplay
Horizon - No Gameplay
Demon's Souls - No Gameplay
I think its pretty clear
Halo Infinite - Included Gameplay
Forza - No Gameplay
Avowed - No Gameplay
Fable - No Gameplay
State of Decay 3 - No Gameplay
Sony
Ratchet - Included Gameplay
Spiderman - Included Gameplay
Returnal - Included Gameplay
GT - Included Gameplay
Horizon - No Gameplay
Demon's Souls - No Gameplay
I think its pretty clear
Jtibh
Banned
Your name always makes me think of dick cheese
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
There was gameplay. We've seen how Spiderman plays to know what the gameplay is.
You somehow completely missed the GT gameplay so I'm not surprised you also missed the spiderman gameplay
Psykodad
Banned
MS didn't show XSX gameplay at all so far.
Mister Wolf
Member
If you counting Spiderman as "gameplay" then you best include The Medium on your list.
Psykodad
Banned
And HFW.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I would but as I said I'm talking big First Party and it will come to the PS5 anyway
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turtlepowa
Banned
Only casual gamers care about stuff like this. How many console gamers do we have with Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft combined? How many likes, views etc. do the shows/Twitter/youtube etc. have? I bet not even 10% of the console gamers.
The price will depend on the existence of a Lockhart and how much Sony is willing to make the Digital Edition cheaper.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Yeah. That was the idea behind it. 2nd choice was Touchin' Biscuits
Tqaulity
Member
You forgot Sackboy and Astrobot which both also showed sizable gameplay from Sony's first party. Not to mention the gameplay segments from 3rd party games at Sony's event like Deathloop, Resident Evil 8, and Ghostwire Tokyo among others. I don't know why people are acting like Sony didn't show much gameplay.
More than half of their conference was gameplay! In contrast, Xbox showed almost no gameplay despite coming in a month later. The gap is definitely real!
bargeparty
Member
Horizon definitely included shots of the game actually running albeit not a "gameplay demo"
KonstructReborn
Member
THIS ARGUMENT IS ONLY VALID IF THE GAME LOOKS BETTER THAN PREVIOUS ENTRIES AND/OR GAMEPLAY OR COMES FROM UBISOFT. We can't reverse it or it goes against everything up until this very point.
eastwood333
Banned
Other than Halo Infinite, no, not really. And thats why they're getting shat on. Avowed showed like 2 seconds of gameplay!
eastwood333
Banned
And Avowed, that did show a few seconds of in game footage.
Psykodad
Banned
Halo was confirmed running on PC.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Maybe but It was hard to tell so I'm just assuming in-engine for now
That was not gameplay lmao
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eastwood333
Banned
At XSX settings. Should be similar. I don't see the problem here.
eastwood333
Banned
It was gameplay, it showed the character drawing his sword and magic in his left hand ala Skyrim.
Mister Wolf
Member
Me neither we already know the Series X is RTX 2080 equivalent. I'm sure 343 can afford to buy one of those.
Psykodad
Banned
Not running on XSX 5 months before launch and you don't see a problem?
Also, you were talking about how Sony showed only two PS5 gameplay videos.
Tiamat2san
Member
Well they’ll lose customers like me , my wife and most of my friends.
A lot of people are console only.
You're pushing straws about spiderman having gameplay, it had none, lmao.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Spiderman makes gameplay look very cinematic so I'm not shocked that people can't distinguish the gameplay from the cutscenes
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
It doesn't take a genius to see how scripted that cutscene was. There's a reason they didn't actually move the character
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chilichote
Member
Right, I just looked at the trailer again: and even if the gameplay scenes are really very short. Not more than 5 seconds in total, but at least better than no gameplay^^
bargeparty
Member
How are you classifying "gameplay?"
eastwood333
Banned
Bro, u can't just not call that gameplay and yet call the Spiderman Cinematic footage gameplay. Neither showed hardly any gameplay footage. Theres nothing else to discuss here.
chilichote
Member
The moment when the player has control over what is happening on the screen.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yes I can lmao.
There were obvious gameplay snippets in the spiderman trailer. If you played the original you'd know how that game looks as you play it. I agree there wasn't actually much.
Avowed showed a character drawing his sword and wielding magic with animations that will obviously not occur during gameplay. It was scripted. There was no gameplay in that what so ever.
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