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How The Last of Us became 'the greatest story' ever told in video games
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Listen to Herr Claus. Your opinion just doesn't match up with the consensus. Take a deep breath and remember Claus's words of absolute truth.
coffinbirth
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And only 40% of those players finished the game on PS4...so most of the people that actually played the game have no idea how said story even ends, haha.
Personally, I thought the story was good and the atmosphere great, but a LOT of the actual gameplay was garbage. Have no desire to play PT.2.
MiguelItUp
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At the time of its original launch, I thought the first one was great. Though I didn't really care for the sequel, I just thought it was fine. It didn't feel super different to me, and it didn't feel like something deeply moving either. In the end, I felt like the characters really made the story, rather than the story itself.
Nothing wrong with people having their own opinion, but I'm really having a hard time accepting people looking at TLOU and thinking it's the "greatest story ever told" in video games. It's wild to me. Honestly lately I've been feeling overwhelmed with all the "TLOU IS THE BEST THING IN THE UNIVERSE" stuff.
Nothing wrong with people having their own opinion, but I'm really having a hard time accepting people looking at TLOU and thinking it's the "greatest story ever told" in video games. It's wild to me. Honestly lately I've been feeling overwhelmed with all the "TLOU IS THE BEST THING IN THE UNIVERSE" stuff.
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FullMetalx117
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It's for sure a well executed story in a video game, it's what Naughty Dog is known for. But come on...we're a generation (i'm assuming most of us) that grew up on I Am Legend, The Walking Dead, Left 4 Dead, World War Z, etc. Soooo much media had some father daugter angle - off the top of my head I can think of Taken. How is it that The Last of Us came off as a good original story to anyone at the time? It's so basic, nothing groundbreaking, unimaginative. even the characters are kind of meh. For a post apocalyptic zombie game, there was nothing original in the The Last of Us story compared to other zombie games at the time. Just because God of War now has a Father-son angle (like so much media) doesn't mean the story is suddenly better either or relatable (to me its generic).
I really enjoyed the first episode last night. But still...it's embarrassing for video games if this is the showcase story for the medium.
I really enjoyed the first episode last night. But still...it's embarrassing for video games if this is the showcase story for the medium.
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Fatbody
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I found the post apocalypse zombie setting to be pretty stale even back in 2013. Ellie is a straight rip off of Ellen Page’s Juno. Not just in the obvious physical appearance but in the character too. And Joel shares similarities to the Walking Dead’s Rick. It’s all incredibly derivative of other forms of media.
Chukhopops
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Just watched the first episode, that was pretty good and they put a lot of effort into recreating some of the game’s scenes. I liked it more than I expected (I’m not sold on Pedro Pascal though).
However… turning the game into a series really highlights how basic the story is since there are dozens of post apocalyptic road movies and series. Saying this story is better than some CRPGs is just weird to me - a better argument would be about really well crafted characters in a somewhat basic premise.
However… turning the game into a series really highlights how basic the story is since there are dozens of post apocalyptic road movies and series. Saying this story is better than some CRPGs is just weird to me - a better argument would be about really well crafted characters in a somewhat basic premise.
ZehDon
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Hot damn - that is how you do clickbait. Top tier stuff, Polygon.
The Greatest Story Ever Told in Video Games®, the interactive storytelling medium, is, apparently, an entirely passive and non-interactive one. "Agency", "consequences" - fuck that noise! A screenplay, some actors, and a whole bunch of dialogue - now that's a fucking video game.
The Greatest Story Ever Told in Video Games®, the interactive storytelling medium, is, apparently, an entirely passive and non-interactive one. "Agency", "consequences" - fuck that noise! A screenplay, some actors, and a whole bunch of dialogue - now that's a fucking video game.
Death Stranding.
The game is consistently well acted, but that damn masterpiece of an ending has absolutely mind blowing performances and one in particular, Hardman, has a certain scene that is by far the best real-time performance capture in any game ever made.
It's not even close.
Of course, that's not to say TLOU2 is not great. It's fabulous, but the devs fell into the let's exaggerate every single gesture just a bit, so everybody thinks is so impressive, trap.
Aguero9320
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Oh man. I was actually looking forward to watching the show because HBO, even though my three attempts to play the game have all been failures, but now I can't help but seriously suspect the overhype for the show is real.
The Last of Us story is generic and derivative (at least the parts I've seen), so this amount of nonsensical waffle is really off putting. The story of Lee and Clementine... Sorry, I mean Joel and Ellie... Has been told at least a thousand times before.
Will still watch it though once a few episodes are out.
The Last of Us story is generic and derivative (at least the parts I've seen), so this amount of nonsensical waffle is really off putting. The story of Lee and Clementine... Sorry, I mean Joel and Ellie... Has been told at least a thousand times before.
Will still watch it though once a few episodes are out.
Gambit2483
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I'd still suggest actually playing the game over watching the series....it's more meaningful going into TLOU2
Torrent of Pork
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TLoU is a basic-bitch zombie story that is only considered good thanks to cut-scenes that copy film.
01011001
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nothing beats the butthurt when people point out that this game isn't special in any way and is as shallow as it gets both in game design and story
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Drizzlehell
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They misspelled Metal Gear Solid.
Gambit2483
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AeonGaidenRaiden
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I loved the Uncharted franchise and somehow i went into TLOU with no expectations, actually i watched very little footage on it before release. I can agree with this article, yes there are a ton of games with great stories but TLOU they paced it so well, I thought it was GOOD in the first 2 hours, then all of a sudden its BETTER and halfway point its AMAZING. The story never felt stale or that you felt like something is being repeated nor did I think of it as a zombie game which everyone was sick of. It was its own thing.
Yakuza is fun...it aint oscar worthy acting/story. Its goofy to a point. Nier is great but I mean if you dont pay attention, its nonsensical. Especially since you have to get to the ending "E" to get the final ending which means you finish the game 5 times? Ueda games, they are emotional but they are more artistic. Story is minimal and more left to interpretation. Souls games? The story is in some random writings you find if you are lucky to expand the lore. Point it, TLOU plays like a movie which is why the story is more easily consumed by the majority of people and which is why it is such a gripping story because you wont miss a beat if you didnt look behind some car and completely missed the whole plot because you didnt explore enough.
Yakuza is fun...it aint oscar worthy acting/story. Its goofy to a point. Nier is great but I mean if you dont pay attention, its nonsensical. Especially since you have to get to the ending "E" to get the final ending which means you finish the game 5 times? Ueda games, they are emotional but they are more artistic. Story is minimal and more left to interpretation. Souls games? The story is in some random writings you find if you are lucky to expand the lore. Point it, TLOU plays like a movie which is why the story is more easily consumed by the majority of people and which is why it is such a gripping story because you wont miss a beat if you didnt look behind some car and completely missed the whole plot because you didnt explore enough.
It's not even the article that's making the claim. It's the persons opinion who did the TV adaptation. One that isn't even that insane. Critics seem to love the TV adaptation of that story. I don't know why that is an "Insufferable" thing to say to some though.
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Kumomeme
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TLOU merely success at achieving what some others videogame not able to do that time(or never intended to do), which is bring a tv/film 'feels' of storyline in videogame and they succeed because the realistic setting of it. it might 'opened' eye to those who clueless toward storytelling in videogame that the platform is also able to output film level of story. but they simply become unware just because they ignorant toward the rest of videogame out there that existed for decades. thats all. and because they is unware all this time, they doesnt realize what kind of quality storytelling already existed before and just because this is the only title that captured their attention, they think this is some first life-time breakthrough or something LMAO.
it has its 'magic' because it is a videogame mimicking actual film/tv series. for a videogame player, it is awesome but if it a film or tv series at first place then it just another zombie with parent-daughter conflict of series. thats how far the imagination, world building, lore, characters etc goes.
but sure, there is great plot, character in it but as 'the best in videogame?' how about Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy for example. there is more if we want to count to what kind of videogame that already existed since earliest day of the industry. deep storytelling already existed atleast over 30 years before. only differences, during ps3 era is where devs finally able to capture fullfledge of actor performance thanks to technology advancement.
its like claiming train to busan is greatest story told ever than lord of the ring etc.
it has its 'magic' because it is a videogame mimicking actual film/tv series. for a videogame player, it is awesome but if it a film or tv series at first place then it just another zombie with parent-daughter conflict of series. thats how far the imagination, world building, lore, characters etc goes.
but sure, there is great plot, character in it but as 'the best in videogame?' how about Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy for example. there is more if we want to count to what kind of videogame that already existed since earliest day of the industry. deep storytelling already existed atleast over 30 years before. only differences, during ps3 era is where devs finally able to capture fullfledge of actor performance thanks to technology advancement.
its like claiming train to busan is greatest story told ever than lord of the ring etc.
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I think the article's reason for being written is based on the tv series and it being good. It has 99% on rotten tomatoes and critics and users liked the story there so the praise for the story is not because it's a videogame.
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Kumomeme
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i know. i just give response toward the claim of 'the greatest story' ever told in video games.
highly chances this merely just another journalist clickbait.
My apologies then, I misunderstood and thought you were saying as a movie or tv series the story would be average as just another zombie series but as a game it was considered good.
Kumomeme
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Dr. Claus
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Everything I stated *is* true. Most people who posted played the game. Many didn't share his opinions. Why is that a problem for you?Listen to Herr Claus. Your opinion just doesn't match up with the consensus. Take a deep breath and remember Claus's words of absolute truth.
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Power Pro
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I really think I'm gonna have to retire from the internet soon...I'm reaching my limit of how much stupidity I can stand anymore. This game doesn't even come close to any great story of any medium. Production value=greatest story; What a crock of shit. It's like an infant being impressed by dangling keys. Just because the game is pretty doesn't make it some master class in writing ffs.
SirTerry-T
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It's good but it's no Pac Man...
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Was the cartoon a faithful recreation of the story in Mortal kombat the game? Did people say the story in Mortal Kombat the video game is only good because it's a video game? If the answer to these questions are yes (i doubt it but maybe) then what do you have against somebody's opinion that mortal kombat has a good story?
LostInTime
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The atmosphere in the games is well done but, There's way better stories in other games.
Mediocre Arachno-Lad
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People are free to have horribly wrong misinformed opinions.
Like thinking that high online aggregate rating must mean good story.
3liteDragon
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Don't know about greatest story when there's games like TLOU2, RDR2, Ragnarok, but definitely one of the best.
On rotten tomatoes for a TV series? You would think that's pretty important, no?
I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "wrong opinion" but I think that would be you swimming upstream, not others.
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GamesDontSuck
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I have a dilemma... I must be one of very few gamers who hasn't played the last of us depite having now two copies of it lol. Do I hold back on the show? Or play and watch the show at the same time?
My brother got me the ps4 remaster 2 Christmas ago and plan was to play it before the show in December. Life and works gets in the way. But my Mrs got me a ps5 and last of us remake for Christmas there.
Now what to do. I could watch the first episode with the Mrs tonight or I could play an hour or two of remake before she gets home. Decisions decisions.
My brother got me the ps4 remaster 2 Christmas ago and plan was to play it before the show in December. Life and works gets in the way. But my Mrs got me a ps5 and last of us remake for Christmas there.
Now what to do. I could watch the first episode with the Mrs tonight or I could play an hour or two of remake before she gets home. Decisions decisions.
OmegaSupreme
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Souls fans.
DragoonKain
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I think at its core, it's kind of a run of the mill zombie story. What made it great was the bond between characters. I guess that's considered part of the story. But plot-wise, I don't think it's some groundbreaking thing.
Personally, I've played games that I thought had more interesting and unique plots.
But it's certainly a good story. What it is though, is something that translates well to TV. Which is why the show is going to be successful. Many games are too convoluted or out there to be translated to a show or movie.
Personally, I've played games that I thought had more interesting and unique plots.
But it's certainly a good story. What it is though, is something that translates well to TV. Which is why the show is going to be successful. Many games are too convoluted or out there to be translated to a show or movie.
Men_in_Boxes
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The Last of Us franchise is just mediocre story wrapped in industry leading cinematic production values.
CGI, videogame CGI in particular, is awful at portraying human emotion. The medium is far better suited at portraying interesting fantastical concepts + plot over "Ellie, you're like a daughter to me" cringe.
CGI, videogame CGI in particular, is awful at portraying human emotion. The medium is far better suited at portraying interesting fantastical concepts + plot over "Ellie, you're like a daughter to me" cringe.
Games of Today
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I mean c'mon polygon, playing the original game when I was like 16 I realized that having Ellie be the cure of the virus was the most cliché zombie trope out there. Literally every piece of zombie entertainment media has some plot line about discovering a cure. Even something like Uncharted 2 is a far more interesting story.
Games of Today
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Just play part 2 and disregard other people's opinion. I don't adore the game either but even I enjoyed some characters and certain levels that people said were horrible. The gameplay is the highlight and much better than Part 1.
Majormaxxx
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TLOU2 is poop. TLOU1 is extremely depressing and emotionally manipulative. It forces you to kill the murderous doctor and then has the gall to judge you lol. The focus on feewings is the downfall of ND (Naughty Druckmann) .
Bring back THRILL, adventure and joy. Bring back the real ND (Nathan Drake).
Also the show looks quite good - gotta admit it. Although the progressive notes are there even in the first 20 minutes I saw - race swapping the daughter, attacks on Jesus/Christianity, etc. So bizarre writers feel free to attack just this one religion. I can't imagine the same treatment towards Islam or Judaism .
Bring back THRILL, adventure and joy. Bring back the real ND (Nathan Drake).
Also the show looks quite good - gotta admit it. Although the progressive notes are there even in the first 20 minutes I saw - race swapping the daughter, attacks on Jesus/Christianity, etc. So bizarre writers feel free to attack just this one religion. I can't imagine the same treatment towards Islam or Judaism .
Games of Today
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The story of Uncharted 2, the set pieces of Uncharted 3 and the graphics of a new Naughty Dog game.
Majormaxxx
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The graphics, animation, gameplay. These guys really have mastered the technical details.
DeepEnigma
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TLoU2 forces you to kill Alice. I hated that ever since.
PixelatedBeast
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Me too, the port begging is pathetic, only for these games to flop on PC so they can spite Sony and pirate the game instead. Wasted resources on market that doesnt enjoy the games enough to buy them. Pc gamers are speaking with their wallets and Sony is taking notes....got some F2P games planned for yall to try out soon.
PixelatedBeast
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Me too, the port begging is pathetic, only for these games to flop on PC so they can spite Sony and pirate the game instead. Wasted resources on market that doesnt enjoy the games enough to buy them. Pc gamers are speaking with their wallets and Sony is taking notes....got some F2P games planned for yall to try out soon. More wall hacks, cronus zen devices and 360 no scopes on the way....
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