John Petrucci
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Same here. Well, overrated is a funny term to me...but yea I just don't get it. Cheers to those that worship it like I do FF VI, KOTOR, and ME2.
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Same here. Well, overrated is a funny term to me...but yea I just don't get it. Cheers to those that worship it like I do FF VI, KOTOR, and ME2.
I do think it's an amazing game but I'll never agree it deserves number one in all of these ranking lists. I mean it doesn't offend me it ranks that high, I just think there's plenty of games that have better music/story/gameplay/characters such as Final Fantasy Tactics.
The real crime is FF VIII and X not making the list but Legend Of Dragoon ranked.
The list is not kind towards PS1 FFs, in general.
Literally every main Final Fantasy is better than Legend of Dragoon.
Fatmanp
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I'm sorry but how the f**** is Pokemon Gold/Silver not in there but Sun/Moon is? Gold and Silver were by far the best Pokemon games ever made. I understand Red/Blue/Yellow being above them on the list because they were the originals but seriously? Sun and Moon is included and not G/S. Smh.
Whoa now. I can't have you disrespecting my boy Dart like that. Also IX is trash. I'll never hear otherwise.
I'm not sure if I've ever heard of Freedom Force. If I have, I've always gotten it confused with Freedom Fighters, because I did not recognize anything about that game.
No way dude, IX is best.
It's even worse for the fact LoD ranked 75. Over games like Torchlight, Everquest, Front Mission 3, DQ VII, KHII and Valkyria Chronicles? I enjoyed LoD as a mediocre RPG but if it's going to place in any rank list it needs to be at the end of recommended lists.
CT and FF VI will forever remain painfully boring in my opinion, but I'm fine with them being on the top. Other than that, considering the other weird shit going on in the list, top 20 is surprisingly okay.
Fallout 3 and especially 4 not even making the list warms my heart :')
Shame about no FF VIII though.
Fallout 3 and especially 4 not even making the list warms my heart :')
Shame about no FF VIII though.
Sir_Crocodile
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I'd have probably gone with something like this for my top ten:
1)Breath of Fire 3
2)Chrono Trigger
3)Shining Force 3 s1/2/3
4)Panzer Dragoon Saga
5)Dragon Quest V (PS2)
6)Grandia
7)Terranigma
8)Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
9)Super Mario RPG
10)Vandal Hearts
Bearing in mind that I rarely (barely) play wrpgs.
1)Breath of Fire 3
2)Chrono Trigger
3)Shining Force 3 s1/2/3
4)Panzer Dragoon Saga
5)Dragon Quest V (PS2)
6)Grandia
7)Terranigma
8)Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
9)Super Mario RPG
10)Vandal Hearts
Bearing in mind that I rarely (barely) play wrpgs.
IX's battle system is like watching paint dry, but it's still a classic.
Overrated is the wrong word but I'm not sure what the appropriate one is. The thing that gets me about it is that I should like it, I can look at Skyrim or The Last of Us and claim they're not that great but everything about the design of those games is not aimed at me, Everything about Chrono trigger should be right up my street but it just doesn't do it for me.
The whole moon base part of the game in particular I find extremely boring
When IGN ranked the FF series, FFX came in #4 and FFXII came in #9.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2009/12/29/ranking-the-final-fantasy-series
Must have had some intelligent people working there back then and now they left?
http://m.ign.com/articles/2009/12/29/ranking-the-final-fantasy-series
Must have had some intelligent people working there back then and now they left?
Vulcano's assistant
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Pokemon G/S/C > Pokemon R/B/Y
Neverwinter Nights 2 > Neverwinter Nights
That aside, no real qualms. And yeah Diablo 2 was higher than I thought, and New Vegas lower than I would have.
Neverwinter Nights 2 > Neverwinter Nights
That aside, no real qualms. And yeah Diablo 2 was higher than I thought, and New Vegas lower than I would have.
Heh, I didn't feel it when it came to Legend of Dragoon. Like it had some cool ideas, but overall it felt kind of forgettable, like it didn't keep me hooked in the end.
last year's list from IGN had FFXII at #2 and FFX at #9.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/15/ranking-the-final-fantasy-games
tiebreaker
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It's not, but Stardew Valley is.
That's why you either emulate or play the PC/mobile version!
I don't think I could play through it at regular PS1 speed ever again, and it's one of my favorite games ever.
Yeah, it's weird. I'm a massive JRPG fan, and mechanically Chrono Trigger does everything very well, so I should like it. I should love it, even. But nah, I just don't give a fuck about that game.
They did one more recently than that, likely from different staff. VIII was ranked second lowest, behind XIII even just to rub it in. X wasn't much higher but XII was near the top
When the DS version was released in 2008, I remember a lot of people playing it for the first time that way and saying it immediately became one of their favorite games.
1st Course
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Secret of Mana is way too high.
I mean I loved the game back in the day but I tried it again a while ago and it's not as good as I used to remember.
I mean I loved the game back in the day but I tried it again a while ago and it's not as good as I used to remember.
This is a true statement. One of the weaker fondly remembered SNES games.
Maintenance
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Broken clock, etc etc.
Hardcore fans aren't really IGN's userbase.
I wonder if a site like RPGFan has done a list like this for JRPGs. We get CRPG lists somewhat regularly from enthusiast sites.
It was really good at the time, but the people who keep insisting there's no such thing as games aging badly are talking nonsense
I played it on the DS too, not even that long ago either. I thought what they did with what little they had was remarkable, the characters and environments were very memorable but it didn't get close to the experienced I had with Morrowind, Fallout 2 and New Vegas, stuff like that. I've never been a huge JRPG guy either.
AcademicSaucer
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FF VI was first so yeah, they had the right idea
Rockandrollclown
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For me WoW is probably first, but I find it hard to be upset with Chrono Trigger. Its the perfect JRPG.
The only thing I like about RPG lists is that if there's games I haven't played listed It makes me want to try them out. I saw that Baldur's Gate & II are available on mobile or steam and I always hear praise for them so I want to finally give them a shot. Do they play like Diablo? Also PC or mobile which feels better to play?
I think the issue is more that 4 is quite a few spots above 3 and 5 when it's really not that much better than both(I prefer 5 out of them all) games.
I think the issue is more that 4 is quite a few spots above 3 and 5 when it's really not that much better than both(I prefer 5 out of them all) games.
Sir Garbageman
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Decent list, I appreciate FF Tactics and Tactics Ogre getting some love.
Steiner is my favourite, the added sound effect for his rusty armour was genius.
DecoReturns
Member
No Zelda games unless I skipped over them.
That cool, i personally don't think they are RPGs
That cool, i personally don't think they are RPGs
Honestly I didn't feel a thing when he died tbh.
Yeah I first played it on the DS and really enjoyed it. One of the reason I think I liked it was because it wasn't like FFVII where people beat you over the head with how great and amazing it is. I was able to go in with a fresh slate since I didn't know anything about major plot points unlike VII.
They are nothing like Diablo, if you played PoE or even Divinity Original Sin the gameplay/style of the game is similar to that.
I would play them on PC personally, though I did not try Mobile version.
Diablo tries to be accessible and arcadey as much as possible, combat is mostly holding down left-click until loot pinatas pop. Baldur's Gate tries as hard as possible to replicate the pen-n-paper Dungeons and Dragons experience and is much more complex.
Diablo is much more action-oriented, Baldur's Gate is more hardcore roleplaying, they're going for different things.