It allows for collecting and reselling. Also, more responsible publishers could easily offer two disks for full game install lien SE is doing. At least they could do that on PS5.
I get how disc people would be annoyed, but I can't remember this not being a regular practice in recent years? Correct me if I'm wrong..
Exactly this! Like others mentioned above, vast majority of games are playable off disk install. At least on PS5 and Nintendo side.
Ok, and why is this a problem?
All of this is based on assumptions. It just seems so weird to me that people would get angry over assumptions they made up in their head. The game could never get delisted so none of these made-up scenarios would ever happen. You could also just buy the game when it comes out this year and play through it and what happens in 10 years won't even matter.
Exactly my thought, on the next episode of consumers arguing about dumb shit…… get over it. Broken record
All previous Forza games are delisted due to expired car licenses but if you still own the game you can download them.
It's a rational assumption. I think it's completely fine for people to be upset at publishers, especially when they implement methods that are long term hindrances to consumers, yet serve to facilitate the growth of their own distribution models. When someone buys a physical disc, it's a fair expectation that the content is available and there aren't further barriers to entry. There is a reason why you see this from companies like Ubisoft and EA because they're scumbags that want your money unjustly. This isn't a case of people just being upset over what this means for Star Wars Outlaws, this is a case of people foreseeing the way corporations are trying to shape and engineer the future of digital gaming.
I was specifically referring to games that will require you to have an internet connection before playing, as it is being implied with Star Wars: Outlaws. I'm very well aware of being able to redownload purchased delisted games.
It requires the connection to download the game because the disc doesn’t include the entirety of the files. It specifically says “to install”. If the connection was required to play it would say it was required to play.
I'm so mad at mad at Ubiright now! I'm 24x7 online on my PC and mobile phone, my PS5 is always connected to the internet, whenever I turn on my PS5 I obsessively check every that every game on my PS5 has been updated to the latest version, I demand long term support from software companies to iron out bugs and add new features, , but now I'm fuck'n' MAAAAAAAAAADDDDD. I DEMAND that I'll be able to play the version of the game that's on the disc. It's my right as a consumer. When WW3 starts, the internet breaks down forever and nuclear bombs start dropping my dying wish is to play Star Wars: Outlaws - and I now realize I can't....
DAMN THIS SHIT COMPANY! I'LL NEVER PLAY A UBISOFT GAME AGAIN!!
I'm not sure what your point is. You're being sold a disc which is incomplete before the game is even released, and it is mandatory for you to have an internet connection to get the full content in which you paid for. :/
I take it you don’t own a Switch.
Ok, i always see this site being mentioned during these discussions but after doing just a bit of searching i found out its missing a lot of releases.Okay I'll bite since it looks like you don't want to take the L on this.
Here's the data for PS4:
And the PS5 data that I've already posted:
Here's the link to doesitplay in case you legit want to learn about the current state of physical game media:
So because X company does this Y should too? One is actually rooted in a cost/distribution problem. The other just pure corporate farts. Keep defending these sorts of practices, I’m sure it will work out well for you in the end.
Do you really believe they fit 200GB of Call of Duty on a disc?
Do you defend every point with a supposition? What are you on about?
No it’s a fact. A lot of games are over 100GB now and that doesn’t fit on a single disc.
Yet FF7 Rebirth shipped on two discs. It’s not like we didn’t have this problem with the PS1 either, where the capacity of the physical medium was a limitation. Oh wait, we did. :/
Yeah, everyone is suddenly acting like printing a second disk for a $70+ game is the end of the world.
Precisely. Using the Switch as a counter argument isn’t valid either when a 32GB cartridge supposedly costs 60% more than a 50GB Blu-ray disc.
It should be a lot more vs 50GB BluRay. The latter is a few $0.01s.
DoesItPlay is a network of volunteers that began their work on this initiative a few years ago, so it's natural that there are still many games that have not been cataloged yet since they depend either on the pubs providing them with games to test or them purchasing those titles themselves.
Similarly, most of the 500 untested games are single-player focused. If they eventually manage to cover all of them—which is unlikely without more help from the community—the percentage will lean even more towards physical releases that have a solid disc build (e.g., offline play and no mandatory download).
The point is directing towards this site isn't a good argument towards the "physical releases are safe!" narrative, its also worth mentioning that any game that already makes clear the necessity of an online connection have less chances of being tested and thus catalogued there (there'd be no reason to bother after all).DoesItPlay is a network of volunteers that began their work on this initiative a few years ago, so it's natural that there are still many games that have not been cataloged yet since they depend either on the pubs providing them with games to test or them purchasing those titles themselves.
Let's take the PS5 as an example. There are over 800 games that have received a physical release on this system, and so far they have tested around 300 of them.
Similarly, most of the 500 untested games are single-player focused. If they eventually manage to cover all of them—which is unlikely without more help from the community—the percentage will lean even more towards physical releases that have a solid disc build (e.g., offline play and no mandatory download).
Also, as a fun tidbit, EA seems to be great at delivering solid disc builds for their annual sports releases (e.g., Madden and FIFA on PS5). So even with these titles that primarily focus on the live service aspect, they still put in the effort to ensure that they have a playable game (offline modes) on the disc.
So the tl;dr here is that Ubisoft can go fuck themselves.
I'm so mad at mad at Ubiright now! I'm 24x7 online on my PC and mobile phone, my PS5 is always connected to the internet, whenever I turn on my PS5 I obsessively check every that every game on my PS5 has been updated to the latest version, I demand long term support from software companies to iron out bugs and add new features, , but now I'm fuck'n' MAAAAAAAAAADDDDD. I DEMAND that I'll be able to play the version of the game that's on the disc. It's my right as a consumer. When WW3 starts, the internet breaks down forever and nuclear bombs start dropping my dying wish is to play Star Wars: Outlaws - and I now realize I can't....
DAMN THIS SHIT COMPANY! I'LL NEVER PLAY A UBISOFT GAME AGAIN!!
It's not rational at all. There is no evidence suggesting that if this game got delisted the physical copies would no longer work or that the game wouldn't be playable in 10 years. Even if the game did get delisted nothing is preventing anyone from just buying/playing it before it gets delisted. It's such a non-issue which is why so few people care.
If the PS6 is not backwards compatible and Sony shuts down the PlayStation Store for PS5 making this game unplayable wouldn't that be a Sony problem not Ubisoft? Assassin's Creed 1 came out in 2007 and it's still playable legally on the latest Xbox console or PC. I don't see Star Wars Outlaws being any different but we'll see.
If the game is delisted, the servers would be shut down and you would be unable to download the rest of the required data to even play the game.
If expecting and demanding basic consumer rights is "entitlement", then I am gladly entitled.
Kotaku: Ubisoft files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy because Ubimad.I'm so mad at mad at Ubiright now! I'm 24x7 online on my PC and mobile phone, my PS5 is always connected to the internet, whenever I turn on my PS5 I obsessively check every that every game on my PS5 has been updated to the latest version, I demand long term support from software companies to iron out bugs and add new features, , but now I'm fuck'n' MAAAAAAAAAADDDDD. I DEMAND that I'll be able to play the version of the game that's on the disc. It's my right as a consumer. When WW3 starts, the internet breaks down forever and nuclear bombs start dropping my dying wish is to play Star Wars: Outlaws - and I now realize I can't....
DAMN THIS SHIT COMPANY! I'LL NEVER PLAY A UBISOFT GAME AGAIN!!
I disagree but like I told the other guy I'm a PC gamer so inserting a disk isn't how I play most of my games right now.
This is not true. Games on the Xbox and PlayStation store are stored on Microsoft or Sony servers, not the individual publisher's servers. This is why most delisted games can still be downloaded if it was already purchased. The physical copy of Star Wars Outlaw(and other games that require an internet connection to install) will download data from the Xbox or Playstation Store just like it downloads the data from the store if you buy it digitally.
