Doesn't sound great to be honest, and after MW2, I'm not sure they have what it takes.
But then, I have little faith in Destiny.
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Kotaku Rumor: Respawn's Game Xbox 360/720 Only, always-online, FPS, Includes Details
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Doesn't sound great to be honest, and after MW2, I'm not sure they have what it takes.
But then, I have little faith in Destiny.
HigherLevel
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Because Bungie showed their game at Sony's conference it means they're abandoning the Xbox. Do you know what a big deal it is that the Halo guys are on #teamsony now?
Seriously though, the Respawn and Bungie situations are totally different.
Destiny = Xbox and Playstation game
Respawn's game = Xbox exclusive
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Could be a time and resource issue. EA probably has DICE stretched thin helping so many of their teams make FB3 engine games. Meanwhile, Could be the guys respawn hired early on where familiar with source and were able to get up and running with it quickly.
That's what I was saying.
I'm pretty confident it's worth making a fuss over. Obviously I don't think it will match CoD, or even BF, but a "hit" of a relevant fashion? Absolutely.
This is basically the heart and soul of Infinity Ward, who once made great games on a two-year cycle that actually followed the phantom checklist you mentioned. Now they've had the opportunity to make what they wanted to make, how they wanted to make it, on their own timeframe. There are plenty of people who will know who Respawn is, and plenty more who will be lured in by "the makers of Call of Duty" marketing.
I honestly can't believe people are arguing this isn't incredibly important. Hell, even on the personal level, MS didn't just pay for the "names" GTA or CoD (yet/that we know of). They apparently paid for a new IP from effectively the brilliant studio who made those games meaningful to begin with. Really, "megatons" don't get much bigger than this.
Destiny isn't exclusive though. No matter how big it gets, it isn't going to influence purchases one way or the other. While I still feel Respawn's game is simply a title in a genre that Microsoft already dominates, it is conceivable that the game brings in new players just like Gears did even though the 360 was already the premier shooter box thanks to Halo.
HigherLevel
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Yeah I know, I was just kind of re-emphasizing it since hardly anyone seems to understand it.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Just because the creators of CoD are behind this supposed Xbox exclusive doesn't automatically mean it will be a huge success.
Atm, all that it equates to is a talking point in the geeat console war of 2013 A.D. Wait until the game releases and actually becomes the next big thing.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
How much of Respawn is actually from Infinity Ward? And how big is Respawn?
I'm of the opinion that Call of Duty was never all that great, it just sort of hit the right chords and Infinity Ward were lucky enough to strike them before anyone else. I'm doubtful they'll be able to strike lightening twice, especially without as many resources at their disposal.
It's why CoD continues to sell even though the leads at Infinity Ward have been dismantled for a long time. Bobby Kotick understands that for some of their most popular games, the talent really is completely disposable.
Right, but it could have been - Microsoft had the opportunity to lock Bungie up, but they didn't. I'd take a Bungie exclusive over a Respawn exclusive any day of the week.
I'm imagining this will be exclusive for a year before EA pulls a fast one to grab a galore on PS4, or even worse is if they release the sequel for PS4 without releasing the original game on PS4.
Mass Effect comes to mind, wasn't until last December until playstation consumers finally got around to getting the chance to play it.
I honestly won't care though. I don't even welcome the Destiny exclusive bonuses on PS4, I imagine alot of Xbox fans are furious over that and they have every right to be. Microsoft and Activision were walking happy hand in hand until that announcement. I wonder what Sony did to impact a former MS second party studio to put in exclusive dlc for a platform they never tried building on before.
I still think third party exclusives, whether its the games or dlc by this point is ridiculous. Unless its in the case of hardware limitations like the wiiU. Then its just hilarious.
Mass Effect comes to mind, wasn't until last December until playstation consumers finally got around to getting the chance to play it.
I honestly won't care though. I don't even welcome the Destiny exclusive bonuses on PS4, I imagine alot of Xbox fans are furious over that and they have every right to be. Microsoft and Activision were walking happy hand in hand until that announcement. I wonder what Sony did to impact a former MS second party studio to put in exclusive dlc for a platform they never tried building on before.
I still think third party exclusives, whether its the games or dlc by this point is ridiculous. Unless its in the case of hardware limitations like the wiiU. Then its just hilarious.
No no, the thing is if this game is going to compete against Destiny it is also going to do it on Xbox as well. It is not like Destiny-PS4 versus this game-Durango. If it will compete against Destiny (this would appear to be case judging from this article), then the question is which one will sustain more players Destiny or this game even on Xbox?
Wouldn't Microsoft passing on it be a pretty big red flag? Games that were passed over traditionally haven't been particularly big. eg. Brutal Legends and Sleeping Dogs (commercially).
immortal-joe
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Not even a tiny bit surprised.
Said MS will get those third party blockbusters, and this thing will be huuuuuuge
Said MS will get those third party blockbusters, and this thing will be huuuuuuge
Nextbox gets its first exclusive FPS. Looking forward to how it is, and if it will remain as a true exclusive Xbox franchise. PS4 has two exclusive FPS's locked down so far: KZ SF + Blacklight Retribution.
Though of course its not a numbers game though. PS3 got a bunch of fps exclusives too but none could 'kill Halo'.
Though of course its not a numbers game though. PS3 got a bunch of fps exclusives too but none could 'kill Halo'.
James Sawyer Ford
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Why would it be a red flag?
The game's vision could have cost more than Microsoft was willing to pay. Destiny is surely not a cheap game to produce, with a ten year vision and all, and a MMOFPS with no subscription pay structure.
I think it's a mistake, because I don't have much faith in Respawn, but I wouldn't say that Microsoft passing on Destiny means they thought it was going to be a bad game at all.
MS of course still has Halo, and whatever shooter Black Tusk is working on.
I wouldn't be surprised if Balcklight ends up on the next xbox as well.
Respawn isn't owned by EA, they just have a deal with them.
The only thing that sucks for Microsoft is that if Respawn's IP gets huge like Halo, or near Halo-levels, they likely won't own the IP or Respawn (obviously), so their huge exclusive can land on the PS4 someday down the road, or at best they end up in some weird Bungie Part Deux situation where they own the IP but the creators are gone.
I just want to see what this game is right now. For some reason, them using the Source engine really intrigues me, because that gives me the inclination that (while it'll still look nice) this is all about gameplay, like Call of Duty 4 was. Say what you will about the CoD series as the years have gone on, but CoD 4 was just a fantastic game that was unparalleled for its time (and maybe since). There were other huge FPSS games like Halo, or even CoD 2, but CoD 4 felt different enough compared to those games and good enough to just stand up on its own and feel like something completely new, but polished to all hell. Just fantastic.
No way it's less than 60FPS. That's why they're using source instead of something like Frostbite 3. These guys want to have something as smooth and fast as CoD 4.
Miles Quaritch
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I think it speaks volume of the power under the hood of the new console. That they are using a near decade old engine tells me that the Durango isn't so much a 1.5 upgrade over the 360, but a 0.5 upgrade in terms of power.
Or the rumour is BS.
Anticitizen One
Banned
The return of 3rd party exclusives gives my life meaning again
Infinity Ward was 80 people when it happened. 46 left, 41 of whom now work at Respawn. Pretty much all the senior talent left. There's a reason why Activision made community manager Robert Bowling the boss of Infinity Ward, everybody else was gone.
Smushroomed
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The new halo for me; another fps ill never play because I didn't buy a xbox
720 is a 6x upgrade over 360. And what does the engine have to do with specs in the first place?
Ninja Scooter
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if you only get 4/5 hours of play out of the CoD games you should stop buying CoD games. Either that or you have never played the CoD games and are a talking out of your ass.
Maybe add
/dumb
Miles Quaritch
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LyleLanley
Banned
4 to 5 hours? 70 dollars? What are you talking about?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Also, did anyone think of:
from the description?
I did, also got hints of Chromehounds.
If it's anything like the latter, this will be a generation defining title. CH was such an amazing game.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Or its Source 2.
Protocol7
Member
Oh I should've added that I only play CoD games (since you're taking that example) for the single player and don't like the multi which is crap... I play BF3 if I want interesting multi or ARMA 2. What I meant by 4/5 is that it's way too short for the price you pay...
And my point wasn't about that, it's about me being tired of FPS genre not being renewed with interesting ideas... In the end they are all the same...
And you should calm down fan boy...
Protocol7
Member
I meant it's too short for what it's worth... I'd like to have a choice between paying for single player or/and multi and not pay the full price...
/getting some coffee
/still grumpy
Hopefully they're aiming for a 60fps 1080p game
devonraynor
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as an independent studio now, they still got to prove imo
there's no such thing as: this game is gonna be good, because they made CoD
there's no such thing as: this game is gonna be good, because they made CoD
Neko Mimi Mode
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Strange. Some GAF posters said third party exclusives were dead and Durango would only be getting timed DLC and Kinect titles...
So the first source 2 game out of the gate is not from valve.
I would advise you not to that here.
Except it most likely (or definitely) isn't Source 2.
It's really hard for me to believe too. Then again, I still don't understand why Gears of War remains exclusive to the 360 when it would also sell loads on PS3/PC. Microsoft's compensation to Epic can't possibly exceed lost revenue on other platforms, can it ?
nhlducks35
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I think some insider on GAF said that an EA game will be exclusive to the Durango.
If you're confident of becoming something of a platform darling, there's worse ways to launch a new franchise than to leverage platform exclusivity at the beginning of a generation. It's been done successfully enough before. Mass Effect, for example. What happens longer term may be another matter, but in the early days of a gen these things can happen...either by happenstance or by contract.
Why would Respawn want to make it Xbox exclusive though ? Considering what happened with Activision, I'm sure they ensured that they would be calling the shots, not EA.