What if it is the new Source engine that is supposed to be in development?
Well, a timed exclusive is never a bad choice imo.
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Kotaku Rumor: Respawn's Game Xbox 360/720 Only, always-online, FPS, Includes Details
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Deus Ex Machina
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It's one way to stand out.
Marketing money and platform holder push.
The cost of audience loss is not so high at the start of a generation vs later. This may just be a platform to jump off of for the franchise, rather than being locked to platform exclusivity forever.
The futuristic shooter genre isn't exactly uncompetitive, so as a way to launch their franchise, this trade-off may have been deemed worth it by both Respawn and EA.
I'd heard weeks ago that MS's first party offerings for the Durango had been 'anemic' (direct quote) from a friend and that we'd see MS buying up third party 'exclusives' but I didn't want to offer up such an opinion on GAF with literally nothing to add.
As such I'm sure this will be a really effective exclusive for the Xbox brand just like Mass Effect, Bioshock, Limbo, Castle Crashers and the exclusive GTA4 episodes.
As such I'm sure this will be a really effective exclusive for the Xbox brand just like Mass Effect, Bioshock, Limbo, Castle Crashers and the exclusive GTA4 episodes.
Especially if they can market it as the next big CoD killer coming from CoD developers. IF MS has wrapped it up, I am sure they will be throwing a load of marketing cash at the game.
EA financed development.
They better mod the source engine for their game properly. You know, feel is extremely key with shooters, and is the biggest reason for cod's popularity. Id tech 3, while extremely old, in my opinion has the best feel for shooting of any engine ever, which is why I'm perfectly happy if Activision just keeps modding the same engine and upgrading it to provide more graphical fidelity. Source though? Don't get me wrong, I love some Source games e.g. Portal, but shooting-wise it's (IMHO) terrible. It depends how many key members jumped the ship to Respawn, but for me, that specific part of the news is definitely a worry.
I'm assuming that EA a) own the publishing rights to the game and b) Respawn may own the actual rights to the IP so MS will be 'moneyhatting' the game but ultimately (much like EPIC with Gears) it will be owned by EA and/or Respawn.
Pretty much. I'll bet that MS see this as their 'Gears Of War' for the Durango.
It's not an 'EA game'. Respawn is an 'EA Partner'. Something different.
In gear's case, MS published the games though, which makes a lot more sense to me. And Epic still owns the IP. It seems Respawn doesn't really need EA in the first place.
I am sure they have Epic on something as well.I kinda hope FortNight appears but I would love to see them do something fresh and not a straight shooter. RPG would be nice! I am sure Gears will make a come-back, even if it is Gears Golf
A HD remix of the old Gears would be perfect early on as they tease stuff. As for Respawn, I wish they all the best. If they can impress gamers then a load of people could shelve CoD fairly quickly if MS and Respawn convince them enough.
We'll find out for sure at either their event on the 21st or at E3 but I don't think that this is a sure thing at all.
While this might be true if MS pay a fortune to EA (and I imagine that they did if true) for the
timed
NO real reason why not. Films do it a load and games have done it in the past.
I kinda hope something Epic (haha) will be there. MS have been a great match for Epic, so I cannot see them dropping that in a hurry. Gears needs to go on the back-burner for a bit in favor of some new IP's from them.
Well, if Call of Duty is trademarked, then they cannot, without consent of the person who owns that trademark.
iceatcs
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Likely they are using current source engine because less risk and cheaper way (is it a free engine?). Less spent on game engine on first time IP, if so success they will make own or get newer engine.
With Sony I always expect the worst and that is usually what happens or will likely happen (see: Vita support,GT6 on PS3,GoW:A MP,no GoW 4 last fall etc.) so I wouldn't be surprised if they have shit for major third party exclusives but nvm I think I've gone enough off topic.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I would imagine them targeting 60fps like COD is part of it, too.
If the rumors of open-world MP stuff, then 60fps would be pretty delicious.
As has been said but needs repeating for some, this would make business sense for all parties involved.
The install base of a new Sony platform isn't worth the value of launching as a platform exclusive and reaping the marketing and branding benefits of such. EA gets to retain the IP as Microsoft invests as a means of building an audience around their platform in the short term. Then, down the road, EA can launch a sequel to a popular franchise on all platforms.
Wouldn't be surprised if Sony were planning similar moves, too. Early platform exclusives are how you differentiate your console, and it's partly how Microsoft closed the gap to such a degree last generation.
The install base of a new Sony platform isn't worth the value of launching as a platform exclusive and reaping the marketing and branding benefits of such. EA gets to retain the IP as Microsoft invests as a means of building an audience around their platform in the short term. Then, down the road, EA can launch a sequel to a popular franchise on all platforms.
Wouldn't be surprised if Sony were planning similar moves, too. Early platform exclusives are how you differentiate your console, and it's partly how Microsoft closed the gap to such a degree last generation.
At the time of release, Modern Warfare at 60fps felt ridiculous. I've no doubt that there's some technical wizards within Respawn, and the hardware available now is much more powerful. Not to forget that Respawn are focussing almost solely on the 720 version (if the rumour's true).
iceatcs
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True that too. Also source engine run very well on lower end system, so should work really well on Durango then.
AHA-Lambda
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Well Destiny is doing it with references to Halo so I don't see why not.
TheUnsunghero26
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Grabbed by The Ghoulies (a Microsoft/Rare game) says "From the creators of Donkey Kong Country and Banjo-Kazooie" on the cover.
NemesisPrime
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Looks like MMO type shooters (and RPGs?) will be the next big thing next gen.
Not supposed, is. Valve haven't really detailed anything bar the fact that it's happening and it's been happening for a couple years.
So what do we kow so far in terms of what MS has in the works?
- Respawn
- Blacktusk
- Rare (Possibly 2 games)
- 343
- Lionhead
- Epic (?)
- Remedy
Lineup is looking high quality but slim, then again there may be more 3rd party exclusives and studios we don't even know about yet. Where's theoddone when you need him?
- Respawn
- Blacktusk
- Rare (Possibly 2 games)
- 343
- Lionhead
- Epic (?)
- Remedy
Lineup is looking high quality but slim, then again there may be more 3rd party exclusives and studios we don't even know about yet. Where's theoddone when you need him?
"We hate used games. Stop it."
"Done. What do we get in return?"
"How about every next gen EA game exclusively for three months?"
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I've read that somewhere lately... was it here on gaf?
From the creators of Call of Duty and the publisher of Battlefield 4 coming to the Halo platform: Titan, infinitely exclusive on Xbox Infinity
Sorry, I just couldn't throw in a Blizzard reference.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
Source Engine was outdated years ago, why the fuck would you release a game on Source for Durango :S.
Damn, that sound like a box to rival the Batman one.
Ah found it:
http://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cbs-News-Hardware-Xbox-720-7753883.html
Short translation: the magazine got the info that the EA deal is real and Durango get's every EA game exclusive for some time. (and they mention the same prices for the console as Thurrot did - but before)
http://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cbs-News-Hardware-Xbox-720-7753883.html
Short translation: the magazine got the info that the EA deal is real and Durango get's every EA game exclusive for some time. (and they mention the same prices for the console as Thurrot did - but before)
So that it is easy to port to 360?
It does sound a bit odd to use Source but it is still a very capable engine and I am sure it makes it easier for them to run it at 60fps with all the AA bells and whistles.
Makes me worry about the whole no used games and no offline mode rumors about the next xbox, EA whould be pumping out exclusives like never if true.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
This brings the number of console releases to use Source up to 7. But only 2 not by valve.
Yeah that's how good the source engine is.
HL2 Xbox
Hl2 Orange Box
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Counter Strike: Global offensive
Respawn's game.
Yeah that's how good the source engine is.
HL2 Xbox
Hl2 Orange Box
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Counter Strike: Global offensive
Respawn's game.
Game changer if true. And given enough money I can see it being true for at least the first year. After that it wouldn't be necessary anymore, what's done is done. Microsoft invested 500 million in marketing Kinect. Getting timed exclusives this early in a gen is much cheaper, each game wouldn't sell more than 500k on average thanks to the low installed base. That's lost revenue of 15 million a game ... Microsoft could easily pay the 150 million it needs to moneyhat the likes of Battlefield 4, FIFA, Madden, Titan ... and add a couple of millions to get GTA IV as well. Money is the one thing that Microsoft has in excess (more than they need actually) and Sony doesn't. If they market 720 as the only platform where you will play the true versions of BF4, GTA IV and FIFA PS4 has a real problem, no matter the specs, no matter the price, no matter the Kinect and no matter always-online/no used games. They will crush Sony if this is real (and EA's and Rockstar's absence from the PS4 reveal suggest it might be).
EA isn't banking their future on one platform for a mere $150 million.
travisbickle
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You're talking about EA willingly taking part in a plan to "kill" the PS4, for $150 million dollars.
Well, who says they don't have Activision in their pockets as well? After all Activision gets a cut of the monthly Live subs because CoD is so huge on Xbox Live. It's a steady income, Call of Duty 2 was exclusive on 360 at launch, Kotick has previously stated that he wants more of that used game sales revenue.
SlipperyFishes
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The corporate hitman, where everyone inside is just a number.
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EA is only giving them Respawn. The exclusive on every game is certainly not happening.