Hmmm in EU.
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Hmmm in EU.
oh crap I forgot to watch the LCS. That dryus guy always looks like he's not having fun. might be good for him to reprioritize what he finds fun about LCS. maybe even pursue another activity for a bit
Competitive lol sucks the souls out of all who play. Dyrus has been in too long. QTpie was always talking in his interviews about how the competitive scene wasn't fun at all for him
He will retire after World anyway.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
You got me there. I don't even think Soaz makes any list.
It's not fun when you suck and see all of the fans make fun of you.
Dyrus has been terrible for a long time and never reached any heights as a top laner.
I've seen a lot of players having a lot of fun, laughing after games, and probably will continue playing for several more years.
Stone Ocean
Member
Dyrus suffered a combo of being past his prime + being constantly focused + having to play boring shit way too often + tilting constantly for the past season and a half, no wonder he wants to retire
Lol Dyrus doesn't suck. TSM wouldn't have kept him around this long if he "sucked". Is he past his prime now? Sure he is, but he's still middle of the pack in NA and good enough to get to worlds.
Imperfected
Member
I'm guessing most people haven't met Dyrus. He's basically just Eeyore in human form. He never looks like he's having fun, and always sounds like he's coming off the sleepy end of an altered state of consciousness.
He used to be a pretty dominant top laner, and even then he usually looked half-dead on camera. The only time I've ever seen him emote or raise his voice was when he outplayed one of the Korean players a few years back. (At which point he visibly yelled "GET FUCKED!" and immediately went right back to somnambulism.) I don't think it has anything to do with whether he's happy or satisfied, he just is not a particularly excitable or emotive person.
He used to be a pretty dominant top laner, and even then he usually looked half-dead on camera. The only time I've ever seen him emote or raise his voice was when he outplayed one of the Korean players a few years back. (At which point he visibly yelled "GET FUCKED!" and immediately went right back to somnambulism.) I don't think it has anything to do with whether he's happy or satisfied, he just is not a particularly excitable or emotive person.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
TSM shouldn't have kept him around because he does suck lol.
I mean, he's good enough for Bjergsen not to babysi... oh wait, Bjergsen does babysit his ass, and that's what costed them the playoffs. GG
Moments hunter
Neo Member
I am really looking forward to Worlds (in my European time). But I am worried it will be only EU vs. NA / NA vs. EU trashtalks. And real competition between Korea and China will remain unnoticed by general audience.
It looks like MSI again...
It looks like MSI again...
EU has Huni. NA has no world class top laners.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Impact is always world class, and Zion's recent performance shows world class skills included in his wide champion pool.
Impact, sure, probably. It's hard to see whether his skills have fallen since he's playing in NA. It's probably fair to say he still is.
Zion hasn't proven himself yet. He has only faced NA top laners which is far from enough to call him world class.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
And Huni faced trash bronze league top laners. What's the difference?
Zion was showing off 1v2, 1v3 moments that most top laners hope to have.
Huni proved himself at MSI, not against NA teams.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
MSI is like a one-off who cares, and trashnatic lost anyway.
It's barely a barometer for anything like those jokesters who still think EDG will beat SKT because of MSI.
I don't see an EU team other than Fnatic leaving groups. Not saying NA is great, but single team with two imported Koreans isn't really representative of the region.
Other than Fnatic, I really don't see a huge disparity between the regions.
I don't think another EU team is leaving groups either. H2K and OG both are in groups where they most likely won't have a chance. If OG were in group A with CLG I could see them getting out of groups at the expense of CLG. OG should have an edge over TSM and I can see them beating CLG. H2K probably wouldn't beat CLG.
Also, importing Koreans means less than you think if you consider NA teams that import former world champions and/or multiple Koreans but still can't get to worlds. Reignover is the weakest link on Fnatic, Korean or not.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
What LOL NA Shits on EU skillwise.
Terbinator
Member
How have you come to this conclusion? Are you from USA?
Stone Ocean
Member
I feel like we have this NA vs EU discussion every week lol
Fnatic is the only EU team that is better than NA. EU has one good team and 9 fodder teams while NA is more balanced with a bunch of decentish teams aside from the bottom trash. It's a better region because you don't have a massive skill disparity that allows one team to just steamroll through an entire split, sure they'll never amount to anything as far as worlds go but at least matches can be actually competitive instead of watching the equivalent of NME Vs TDK 4 times plus that one TL Vs DIG game a week
Put a team like Giants or UOL in NA and they'll be at relegated by the end of the split.
Fnatic is the only EU team that is better than NA. EU has one good team and 9 fodder teams while NA is more balanced with a bunch of decentish teams aside from the bottom trash. It's a better region because you don't have a massive skill disparity that allows one team to just steamroll through an entire split, sure they'll never amount to anything as far as worlds go but at least matches can be actually competitive instead of watching the equivalent of NME Vs TDK 4 times plus that one TL Vs DIG game a week
Put a team like Giants or UOL in NA and they'll be at relegated by the end of the split.
I think even that is an exaggeration. It would be difficult to argue that OG and H2K are weaker than the non-CLG NA teams right now. H2K might or might not be able to beat TSM, but OG should be able to beat them. Luckily they are in the same group so we'll see two games.
You have the near-top teams getting beaten by a 7th place C9 of all the teams in the gauntlet.
end of season Gravity hasn't looked better than UOL, as bad as UOL are.
Stone Ocean
Member
OG almost got knocked out of worlds by Roccat, yeah they're shit
C9 is a bunch of has-beens with one great player just like Origen, but unlike in EU they don't get 2nd in the split and have to play 15 games to actually go to worlds.
C9 is a bunch of has-beens with one great player just like Origen, but unlike in EU they don't get 2nd in the split and have to play 15 games to actually go to worlds.
Terbinator
Member
Pretty much my trian of thought. The top teams in EU are consistant, GV collapsed into no mans land and C9 are going to worlds - I'm not sure how that looks any way other than EU being better.
But still got there, finished second and the only team to take games off FNC?
Roccat played really well in that series, there's not much more to say.
We'll see how TSM performs against OG.
Stone Ocean
Member
They took games off FNC when it didn't matter anymore and with Fnatic playing shit they were obviously not used to - remember Huni's GP?
That will probably be the biggest shitshow in the entire world championship lol
Oct 31 I think
Nice, let's do this
Imperfected
Member
Twitch chat? What are you doing here? This is what happens when we don't have any professional games streamed for a few weeks, you just wander into the middle of GAF? Get back in your shameful little sidebar where you belong!
We're close enough to Worlds that any claims of "X is better than Y" should be backed with clear metrics ("Team A from region B will beat Team X from region Y in their group round games."), and humiliating Lollipoppy avatar bets.
OG will 2-0 TSM in groups, those are the only games that matters here. Lollipoppy for a month! Anyone think TSM 2-0 OG?
But seriously, I think FNC > CLG, OG > TSM and H2K > C9. Out of those three I think OG and TSM are the closest and TSM might take a game off of them. I hope we get to see CLG vs FNC in quarter finals.
I joined, thanks for making it since I might not have known otherwise.
Kotetsu534
Member
Yeah, I don't get all the interest in EU vs. NA. Back in season two when M5 and TSM were destroying their regions I could see it, but today the real hype is for China vs. Korea. I think the Chinese teams will, taken together, outperform the Korean teams, even if SKT might well win the whole event.
The EU/NA rivalry will live forever, even though none of them stand a chance of winning the tournament.
Stone Ocean
Member
NA vs EU is like WWE
It's real to me damn it
It's real to me damn it
Stone Ocean
Member
I'm a TSM believer. That is why TSM will get 3rd on top of OG
We go back home in first class seats while xPeke takes a train
YEAHHHHHHHHH
Shining Sunshine
Banned
No, the pick bans won that series. Whoever got GP won, and when GP was banned, whoever had Viktor won because Xpeke is shit on Azir.
One game, Xpeke picked Varus into Viktor because, for no reason, they first picked fucking Elise? Such shit choices.
Pretty much how I feel. If the full roster TDK was in EU, they'd be second place. EU teams are a joke in terms of skill aside from Fnatic and Origen (throwing them a bone).
riskybusinesstomcruise
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Holy fuck dude. The level of shitposts in this thread is amazing. What is it about League of Legends that brings out the worst of Neogaf? This is twitch chat level right here.
Stone Ocean
Member
They would be in second place
In the gauntlet :^)
In the gauntlet :^)
Shining Sunshine
Banned
It's the truth.
Did you miss TDK shitting on on GV and C9 with non-meta champs?
TDK is good and would have been middle of the NA pack if it wasn't for the visa issues.
Err
Soaz with his pioneering performances on GP show that he is still a very mechanically capable player. His weakness is he is easy to tilt and can sometimes have poor decision making.
Also what the hell at all this EU v NA unsubstantiated talk
Just wait for worlds to get the chops on
Stone Ocean
Member
His weakness is that he's a lil bitch
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Soaz played GP pretty poorly compared to other GP's around the world.
Yeah, he was the first to play GP, but he was nothing but a wave clear bitch. Watch Jin Air's GBM to see top tier GP, even Zz1tai and Pawn's GP.
Prototype Viktor
Member
did someone play Vayne recently in the last few games before draw or something? every single Team Builder game has seemily 1 to 4 vaynes in it