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Luminous Studios is dead
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It wasn't fine for me. I liked it a lot.
But in general, objectively it was fine
Hopefully they don't just go back to pre-2018 and actually get ripped apart.
That talent is worthless if it still remains the same team, we already know they can't manage a project for shit.
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dotnotbot
Member
Is that a threat?
BaneIsPain
Member
What is the common thing between Volition and Luminous Production?
They are making single player game with annoying mc. Well done.
They are making single player game with annoying mc. Well done.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Hey, better double the # of consultants next time, I bet then you’d really make a character people love.
CunningPlan
Neo Member
These consultants must be making some crazy money from all these failed woke media projects.
Hey, better double the # of consultants next time, I bet then you’d really make a character people love.
MALpractice311
Member
Sounds like someone turned the lights out at Luminous Studios.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
my dream has come true.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I was surprised they were not after FFXV
ChorizoPicozo
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
it was due that stupid engine.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I wholeheartedly agree with this, but sadly it seems like the West for whatever reason continues to influence many Japanese developers despite constant failures. I doubt they’ll ever truly learn as long as they “think” they can make money trying to emulate Western games.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
because is the biggest market.
Schmendrick
Member
Will anyone miss them?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I just wonder if this sort of thing is hurting “representation” more than helping it.
Like, if you want to make a white character, you can just have some cool idea for a character and make it.
If you want to make a black character, well then you better make them sympathetic, but still “authentic”, but also free of any negative stereotypes. Best bring in some BIPOC consultants and win their seal of approval, so you can blunt some of the inevitable backlash when non-black writers dare to try and write a black character.
Then after all that, the twitter keyboard warriors and sites like Kotaku will still find a million “problematic” things to complain about. Partly because they don’t gain esteem/attention/clicks by saying “hey they did an OK job”. Partly because it’s their favorite form of recreation, picking some target to accuse of bigotry and then watching them grovel and beg for approval.
PanzerCute
Member
Sad but true and Forspoken is exactly that: half brilliant, half shit.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Not with Sony paying for two years of exclusivity. Square made money on it before it released.
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Rhazer Fusion
Member
That does make sense and I understand, but it’s doesn’t seem like it does too many favors to their style of games I feel. Some can usually get away with it like Capcom, but I’m not sure if it works for others well.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
The engine itself as XV showed had its merits. It was technically great last gen and the PC version of the game still looks very nice by todays standard.
Forspoken was a step backwards tech wise from XV, which is really bizarre. Think S-E just should completely focus on wide linear with some open zones going forward with their RPGs. Like XVI and I'd guess VII Rebirth. They clearly don't have the heart to go all in on open world, which is what it takes to make a game of that nature to not feel flawed and incomplete.
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Spaceman292
Banned
Tech demos have no bearing on what actual games look like
ChorizoPicozo
Member
that engine has no merits.
i was following very closely the development of FFfuckingVersusXIII. the luminous development was one the worst shitshows in the history of the industry. software engineers in top positions leaving and shit like that.
that engine had different priorities and being a good video game engine wasn't one of them.
Joshmyersbv
Member
SE as a whole has some of the worst management in the industry. They clearly can not make a AAA game without increasing an already massive budget and delaying it several times.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
That’s exactly what I want from a Final Fantasy game. It’s not like “open-world, go anywhere, do anything you want” is the ultimate, highest goal that all game worlds should aim for, and anything less than that is inferior.
The cruelest irony about FF XV is despite being the first open-world FF game, it felt tiny and claustrophobic. Instead of being some massive globe-spanning epic, the entire thing takes place in an area that’s like the size of a state park. Towns are like a 5 minute jog from each other (each with its own diner and set of shops for some reason). It gives you the feeling of “this is all there is?” instead of feeling as though there’s a big world out there and you’re just getting one person’s perspective of it.
StueyDuck
Member
It's a shame that western influence and awful gobshite western writers helped lead to its eventual demise.
But that comes down to poor leadership at luminous and making such bad decisions.
All in all it's not complete doom and gloom, they are being absorbed and more talent behind other better franchises is a good thing
But that comes down to poor leadership at luminous and making such bad decisions.
All in all it's not complete doom and gloom, they are being absorbed and more talent behind other better franchises is a good thing
Iced Arcade
Member
Squared
At least they didn't lose jobs.
At least they didn't lose jobs.
StueyDuck
Member
brian0057
Banned
People like to mock EA for killing a bunch of studios, and rightfully so.
But Sony isn't that far behind. And because they make pretty interactive movies, they fly under the radar.
Teletraan1
Banned
Name and shame those consultants. They fucking suck.
People like Japanese games because they like Japanese culture and design. Importing someone else's culture to appeal to people who will never be satisfied is never a good move and will never come across as authentic. I play games and watch TV and movies from other cultures because the shit they are feeding us in the west is a bunch of ideology wrapped in a bad story. When everyone else starts pumping out the same shit I am trying to escape in the west I will drop that too.
People like Japanese games because they like Japanese culture and design. Importing someone else's culture to appeal to people who will never be satisfied is never a good move and will never come across as authentic. I play games and watch TV and movies from other cultures because the shit they are feeding us in the west is a bunch of ideology wrapped in a bad story. When everyone else starts pumping out the same shit I am trying to escape in the west I will drop that too.
StueyDuck
Member
I think the joke may of went over your head a little
Enjoy your console wars though I guess.
I gonna continue mocking forspoken instead
saintjules
Member
brian0057
Banned
Mockery is unnecessary. It killed the studio.
That's all the schadenfreude I need.
Buggy Loop
Member
Yup
And while the Luminous shitshow was happening with all the mess of the versus XIII / Noctua, Square Enix Montreal was making a Final Fantasy after the success of Deus Ex, why not give them a chance after all? Oozing with talent and their new in-house engine is promising. The modified IO interactive engine that would become Dawn engine.
New SE CEO came in and cancelled Eidos’s FF. I mean, just rename it if FF triggered the new CEO or something. That’s how SE management is. They fumbled around a lot in the past 10 years.
Shifty1897
Member
Well, they tried.
nial
Gold Member
So, not like Capcom?
Kacho
Member
Forkspoken bomba'd confirmed
They really looked at REE and Twitter and said, "yep, this is what the western audience cares about." hahaha
Hey, better double the # of consultants next time, I bet then you’d really make a character people love.
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kvltus lvlzvs
Banned
Thank goodness. Luminous studios sucked ass.
Aside from FF, what do they have that's a big IP?
Pumping FF games till saturation is not the answer, Forspoken was cursed from the start, trying to merge the current americanized character and the edgy cursing whedonesque dialogue with the isekai world of fantasy just didn't mesh well at all
It's like watching a samurai movie and the background music is filled with country songs
