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Magic: the Gathering - Oath o/t Gatewatch |OT| Look again, the mana is now diamonds!
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That's not unheard of tbh
Who needs landscapes when you can have these
Real talk: Mirrodin has some of the worst looking basics in the history of Magic.
As someone who hasn't played Magic for like, 15 years, and who just came in the thread out of curiosity, it looks to me like Colorless Mana is basically just a new type of mana...is that right? I mean, if there are new lands that generate C specifically, and there are cards that require C specifically, and C can be used to pay for generic mana costs, it's basically a sixth mana type, no?
Not exactly. Colorless mana has existed for, well, just about forever. But the requirement of its use to cast or pay for things is new. I can see why you would consider it 'basically a sixth mana type' but I disagree with that sentiment for one reason: Colorless really has no identity or characteristics, mechanically or otherwise.
afternoon delight
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Continue to be meh on this set but Eldrazi are fun to play with. We're doing Commander games for the first time this weekend and I'm pumped- Karador the Ghost Chieftan fucking wrecking crews in a sacrifice creature deck!
Shuggananas
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I prefer this colorless thing over the devoid nonsense from BFZ
bring on the spoilers !
edit : huh, unknown shores is really good isn't it ? for a common at least
surge is meh
bring on the spoilers !
edit : huh, unknown shores is really good isn't it ? for a common at least
surge is meh
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah...drawing cards for doing things you want to be doing for 3cmc on a respectable body is pretty good.
Unknown Shores is a reprint.
No worries. I just want this community to get in the habit of linking to stuff they talk about lol
No worries. I just want this community to get in the habit of linking to stuff they talk about lol
Shuggananas
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Yeah...drawing cards for doing things you want to be doing for 3cmc on a respectable body is pretty good.
mmmh that's stupid
would an opponent turn count as "each turn" if you cast 2 instants during their turn too ?
Sorry, I thought bigkrev was editing all the pictures in his post.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yup. Each turn, not your turn.
U/R Merfolk seems stupid good in the right deck. Definitely not the card you want to cast on turn 3, but on later turns with some cheap spells to get immediate value it looks really good. Also, drawing cards during enemy turns should be pretty sweet, and it looks like a dope commander of course.
Also, really digging Spatial Contortion in limited. Get a couple of colorless sources and you get a decent kill spell in decks that really shouldn't have them. Very nice.
Also, really digging Spatial Contortion in limited. Get a couple of colorless sources and you get a decent kill spell in decks that really shouldn't have them. Very nice.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
It feels modern pushed. Like, I want to make something out of it in UWR control. I'm not sure what just yet. But I got the feeling about that one.
Shuggananas
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wtf dread defiler
sure it's expensive but man
sure it's expensive but man
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This set already looks far more interesting to draft
Deepfathom Skulker is an obvious limited bomb, and Dread Defiler looks like it should be really useful in commander.
Gladeheart Calvary looks terrible though. At worst it's a 6/6 for 7, and to get the max value out of it you need 6 creatures. I mean, if you have 6 creatures, you either have a bunch of mana dorks (who won't matter with +1/+1 counters on them), or you're about to win the game anyway. It can't even buff itself! What a load of crap.
Gladeheart Calvary looks terrible though. At worst it's a 6/6 for 7, and to get the max value out of it you need 6 creatures. I mean, if you have 6 creatures, you either have a bunch of mana dorks (who won't matter with +1/+1 counters on them), or you're about to win the game anyway. It can't even buff itself! What a load of crap.
We have a lot more commons early on than we usually do. Battle For Zendikar really didn't seem like it would be any good till the commons dropped on the final spoiler.
I'm guessing the Leak changed some plans.
The Technomancer
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Rally almost definitely not, and I bet Converge is out too. The other three I expect to show up
Also caught my eye. Too bad it's 7 mana to cast.
DashReindeer
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While it isn't the greatest card, one thing to keep in mind that the spoiler article failed to mention (and even said incorrectly) is that you don't have to put the counters on creatures you control. This makes it far more useful in two-headed giant games, which I assume is what they were going for. It's weird the article didn't bring it up. but buffing you and your teammate's entire army actually is at least somewhat worthwhile.
charlequin
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On the other hand, it seems like they dropped the Ulamog mechanics (ingest and processing) completely, which makes BFZ's implementation even more pathetic.
OK, it's better in 2HG, I'll give it that. Way more likely to see enough creatures to get all the counters out. I still think they could've pumped it up a little more though.
Also, the fact that it can't pump itself rubs me the wrong way. I don't like the idea of topdecking this and getting nothing other than a 6/6. At least if it could pump itself it could give you some life when it dies.
Spatial Contortion is actually really good for ramp decks. Takes care of all the early drops to allow time to ramp. Bad against Hangarback though lol.
Dread Deflier is costly, but at least it is 7cmc which triggers Sanctum of Ugin. Sulker missed it at 6cmc, but that draw a card ability though. I don't think it's good enough to play still.
Dread Deflier is costly, but at least it is 7cmc which triggers Sanctum of Ugin. Sulker missed it at 6cmc, but that draw a card ability though. I don't think it's good enough to play still.
It's still a vanilla body. I mean, Talrand gave a 2/2 flyer for every spell and it was still stone cold unplayable.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think it's really worth a card when you can just play Kozilek's Return.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Combos with Skullclamp =V
My first thought, but doesn't the +1/+1 stop that?
Uh....what? He saw plenty of play.
It's still a vanilla body. I mean, Talrand gave a 2/2 flyer for every spell and it was still stone cold unplayable.
Drgon is playable.
The Technomancer
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Combos with Skullclap and Force of Savagery
"God's Beard!"
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Combos with 2 Skullclamp
I think there are enough incidental exiling cards that a low-effort Processor like Wasteland Strangler still has value and cards like Ruination Guide and Dominator Drone still have value even if they aren't fueling processors. How this "archetype" pans out in this Cube will have a lot to do with how its represented in OtG - a lot of the initial batch of Processors just aren't worth the hassle in a Cube environment I feel. Like for example, Murk Strider and Ulamog's Reclaimer just seem like higher maintenance versions of Aether Adept (which looks like it could be from any plane) and Mnemonic Wall. Wasteland Stranger, Ulamog's Nullfier and Blight Herder have high payoffs and are mana efficient to a degree that is hard to find elsewhere.
Given today's spoilers, I'm a bit concerned though. U/B will likely lean more towards just UB control in my Zendikar Cube than an actual Ingest-Processor deck.
new guy, seems alright
Great card (cool they didn't forget about Zendikar's equipment theme), AWFUL art. Just damn that art is bad O_O
Or Grafted Wargear.
Hey, 2 of those and 1 grafted wargear equal roughly 1 skullclamp!
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He's still pretty good imho.
Giant Panda
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I'm surprised they keyworded support. This is something cards have been doing for a long time, and will continue to do. But now only cards that appear in this set will have the keyword.
Magic Pancake
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What exactly is the color pie for colorless mana now, anyway? Spacial Contortion is a dead ringer for Nameless Inversion,
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