mejin
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Man, come on. Nintendo won't ever have a better support than Playstation.
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Matt Piscatella of NPD: P55 will likely be passed by Switch in "fastest launch sales ever" within the month
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Man, come on. Nintendo won't ever have a better support than Playstation.
Marty-McFly
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Switch has been a force with Indies all gen. In fact, Playstation and Xbox users are just now enjoying last years GOTY on Switch/PC, Hades.
There's a lot written about this. Here is some to get you started.
How Nintendo Switch Is Becoming the Best Place for New Games - IGN
Nindie developers talk about why new games and gamers alike are flocking to the Nintendo Switch
Why Indie Publishers Are Fed Up With PlayStation - IGN
Multiple indie publishers are speaking out about Sony's lack of communication, sale restrictions, and the struggles of indie games to get noticed on its platforms.
Dead Cells Switch is outselling the PS4 version by a factor of four to one
Live Sell culture For some reason the games industry doesn’t seem to like sharing sales numbers with the public, so...
www.destructoid.com
PlayStation is a Platform for AAA Titles; Indies Don't Sell
Mike Rose from No More Robots said on Twitter that Nowhere Prophet sold on PS4 twenty times worse than on Nintendo Switch. This independent title is also doing better on Xbox One.
www.gamepressure.com
Report: How PlayStation Is Failing Indie Developers
PS Store sale exclusion, backend mishaps, and lacking support
www.pushsquare.com
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zaanan
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“PS5 is facing are more serious and unchangeable than the ones Nintendo faced then”Nintendo is facing chip shortages as well. It affects everyone.
Nintendo’s president confirms chip shortages are hampering Switch production | VGC
Furukawa says the company is “not able to produce all the products we want to”…www.videogameschronicle.com
Context matters champ.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Where did the quote in your post come from?
zaanan
Banned
You’re right, 8.5 is being too generous. It’s gen 8:
“The eighth generation of video game consoles began in 2012, and consists of four home video game consoles: the Wii U released in 2012, the PlayStation 4 family in 2013, the Xbox One family in 2013, and the Nintendo Switch family in 2017.”
Eighth generation of video game consoles - Wikipedia
Looks like someone else needs to create a wikipedia account and start arguing with them.
Amin_Parker
Member
You are one of the best members on this site. Very knowledgeable and always have great comeback lines. We Nintendo fans are lucky to have you on our team.Switch has been a force with Indies all gen. In fact, Playstation and Xbox users are just now enjoying last years GOTY on Switch/PC, Hades.
There's a lot written about this. Here is some to get you started.
How Nintendo Switch Is Becoming the Best Place for New Games - IGN
Nindie developers talk about why new games and gamers alike are flocking to the Nintendo Switchwww.ign.com
Why Indie Publishers Are Fed Up With PlayStation - IGN
Multiple indie publishers are speaking out about Sony's lack of communication, sale restrictions, and the struggles of indie games to get noticed on its platforms.Dead Cells Switch is outselling the PS4 version by a factor of four to one
Live Sell culture For some reason the games industry doesn’t seem to like sharing sales numbers with the public, so...PlayStation is a Platform for AAA Titles; Indies Don't Sell
Mike Rose from No More Robots said on Twitter that Nowhere Prophet sold on PS4 twenty times worse than on Nintendo Switch. This independent title is also doing better on Xbox One.Report: How PlayStation Is Failing Indie Developers
PS Store sale exclusion, backend mishaps, and lacking support
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
huhYou’re right, 8.5 is being too generous. It’s gen 8:
“The eighth generation of video game consoles began in 2012, and consists of four home video game consoles: the Wii U released in 2012, the PlayStation 4 family in 2013, the Xbox One family in 2013, and the Nintendo Switch family in 2017.”
Eighth generation of video game consoles - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Looks like someone else needs to create a wikipedia account and start arguing with them.
zaanan
Banned
Figure it out. I know scrolling and reading previous posts is hard, but you can do it.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Okay I figured it out. You made it up.
No writing professional would use grammar like this.
“PS5 is facing are more serious and unchangeable than the ones Nintendo faced then”
Anyway, everyone is facing chip shortages. Having said that, at launch it's always more difficult to get consoles out so Playstation is dealing with that as well.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
But not every device is in the same level of demand as the PS5.
I can walk in a store and walk out with a Switch.
This isn't the case for the PS5 as the demand is through the roof which further complicates things.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Considering how many more units Switch is selling than PS5 right now, that's to be expected.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
More Switch devices are made.
If one could walk into a store and buy a PS5 things would be different.
PS5 will have more life time sales than the Switch and you can bookmark this.
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
how about this: make a bet which console will sell more and come back when the generation has ended. winner gets a Nintendo Switch or PS5. it would be much more interesting that way...
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
No need for a bet.
Me posting this in front of thousands would be enough humiliation if I was wrong.
Marty-McFly
Banned
That seems highly unlikely but you're entitled to your optimism.
mejin
Member
Switch has been a force with Indies all gen. In fact, Playstation and Xbox users are just now enjoying last years GOTY on Switch/PC, Hades.
There's a lot written about this. Here is some to get you started.
How Nintendo Switch Is Becoming the Best Place for New Games - IGN
Nindie developers talk about why new games and gamers alike are flocking to the Nintendo SwitchWhy Indie Publishers Are Fed Up With PlayStation - IGN
Multiple indie publishers are speaking out about Sony's lack of communication, sale restrictions, and the struggles of indie games to get noticed on its platforms.Dead Cells Switch is outselling the PS4 version by a factor of four to one
Live Sell culture For some reason the games industry doesn’t seem to like sharing sales numbers with the public, so...PlayStation is a Platform for AAA Titles; Indies Don't Sell
Mike Rose from No More Robots said on Twitter that Nowhere Prophet sold on PS4 twenty times worse than on Nintendo Switch. This independent title is also doing better on Xbox One.Report: How PlayStation Is Failing Indie Developers
PS Store sale exclusion, backend mishaps, and lacking support
There is no point to those articles cause the games are coming to every platform in the end.
For example, Sony got some hits in the past like Fall Guys and Rocket League. They have Kena, Stray, Solar Ash coming, etc. They will keep giving support to indies just like Nintendo and MS, there is no magic here.
Nintendo selling great or not will always have a worse third party support than Playstation, indies or not.
Bernd Lauert
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Hey look, that Wiki article has the Switch under the "home console" sectionYou’re right, 8.5 is being too generous. It’s gen 8:
“The eighth generation of video game consoles began in 2012, and consists of four home video game consoles: the Wii U released in 2012, the PlayStation 4 family in 2013, the Xbox One family in 2013, and the Nintendo Switch family in 2017.”
Eighth generation of video game consoles - Wikipedia
Looks like someone else needs to create a wikipedia account and start arguing with them.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Playstation's ecosystem is built around third party support so they'd be in pretty deep if that were not the case.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
No it's built around game of the year winning exclusives.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Playstation would completely collapse if they had to rely on first party sales.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Hezekiah
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Wow, that is an eye-opener
Marty-McFly
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You act as if there wasn't enormous unmet demand for Switch at launch.
Hezekiah
Banned
You act as if that demand was comparable to the demand for PS5
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MagnesG
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PS5 got the holiday sales data while the Switch doesn't.
Hezekiah
Banned
Well, that was Nintendo's decision.
PS5 has huge demand and is far more expensive than the Switch aswell (as was PS4).
Marty-McFly
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You act as if you have someway of proving this.You act as if that demand was comparable to the demand for PS5
The only thing that is certain is that PS5 is already showing signs of collapse in their second biggest region, Japan.
Hezekiah
Banned
The cope is strong here.
PS5 is the fastest console to hit 10m. And at this point, demand continues to be even stronger than it was for the Switch.
And if history is an indicator, it's probably sold more software too.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Everything about this post is ridiculous and also nice projection with the cope
- Switch is going to pass PS5 launch alligned launch sales this month
- Switch is selling faster than any Sony console in history after 76 months
- Switch is destroying PS5 in software sales. It has an install base of close to 100 million.
BattleScar
Member
PS5 is on a leading edge node (well will be displaced by N5 soon, but for now). The Switch is not.
Supply for older nodes is not quite as constrained as leading edge nodes right now.
Switch has a tiny chip, the PS5 and Xbox Series X have much larger chips, which are less manufacturable.
Switch has much less RAM.
Lots of factors that make the supply situation worse for home consoles vs. the Switch.
Marty-McFly
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These are all valid points but it really makes you wonder how severe the chip shortages really are when Sony was able to produce more PS5's than any console in history up until this point in its launch phase.
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MagnesG
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Well, well what? What decision?
That Nintendo wanted to launch the Switch on March instead on holidays?
What kind of deflection is this...
zaanan
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Ad hominem lol, must be over the target! Also I didn’t realize that the Switch had chip shortages brought on by the plandemic back in 2017, but you do you! Have fun with your alternate history timeline!
bender
What time is it?
It only makes you wonder if you are oblivious to worldwide manufacturing constraints inside and outside of the tech industry.
Marty-McFly
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Yeah, I'm aware it's a real thing, but how did Sony produce the most launch consoles in history with chip shortages? Do they have clout with the supply chains?
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bender
What time is it?
This isn't about console warring, lay down your arms and maybe read more than just video game news from time to time. Geez.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Excuse me? I was asking a legitimate question.
Shortages and producing the most consoles in history is a little bit of a paradox.
bender
What time is it?
I don't have an excuse for you. You aren't cute or clever but rather very transparent.
Marty-McFly
Banned
Obviously, nor was I inferring that. Just they are being affected now like the other console manufacturer's, albeit not to the same extent.Ad hominem lol, must be over the target! Also I didn’t realize that the Switch had chip shortages brought on by the plandemic back in 2017, but you do you! Have fun with your alternate history timeline!
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Only thing certain is I can't walk into a store and buy a PS5.
But I can walk into a store and buy a few Switches.
PS5 is much more popular and sought after.
Kagey K
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8 months after the Switch was released you couldn't and that's what they are being compared to.
They are comparing Switch in its 1st 12 months after release to PS5 in its 1st 12 and Sony brought it upon themselves, when they started using fastest selling metrics.
The funny thing is Switch hasn't even rocketed in sales yet. PS is about to get embarrassed by unit sales I'm another 3 or 4 months.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's been established that more Switches are made.
Plus there wasn't a pandemic when Switch launched.
Again I will repeat....
I can walk into a store and buy a Switch. I cannot walk into a store and buy a PS5.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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PANDEMIC
You stated PS5 is more popular than Switch despite Switch has sold around 90M LTD and nearly 10M were sold in the first half of 2021.
Kagey K
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Sweet. So it didn't affect the Switch? Nintendo was immune to it?
Marty-McFly
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Interesting you bring this up.
The pandemic is also said to be boosting demand for consoles significantly.
Switch's insane demand at launch was done without a pandemic.
PS5 on the other hand is benefiting from it.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
No it hindered PS5 production.
Switch had no such issue.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
There wasn't a Pandemic when Switch launched.