Kagey K
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So pandemic supplies didn't affect the switch at all?
Seems funny that all car manufacturers are having supply issues, but Nintendo is fine.
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Matt Piscatella of NPD: P55 will likely be passed by Switch in "fastest launch sales ever" within the month
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Seems funny that all car manufacturers are having supply issues, but Nintendo is fine.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Switch didn't launch during a Pandemic.
Switch has been out much longer.
Do you think PS5 won't sell 90M?
Kagey K
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But there was after and still is until now.
This shot is so obtuse now. Do you think every switch being made now is before the pandemic? And every PS5/Xbox is only after?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Huh?
I will repeat... there was no pandemic when Switch launched.
KingT731
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Not taking a stance either way but the shortage isn't affecting everyone equally. Nintendo's older chip may have lowered production but that isn't the same as newer chips that are all competing for space in the newer foundry processes.
Marty-McFly
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Nintendo President Says Semiconductor Shortage Is Affecting Switch Already
The company can't make as many systems as it wants to because of the global shortage.
www.gamespot.com
Kagey K
Banned
I actually think 90 might be tight, (keep it bookmatked) they are going to lose a lot of ground they took last gen.
S0ULZB0URNE
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It will sell more than PS4.
You can bookmark that.
TransTrender
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Ugh
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Kagey K
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Well in 7 or 8 years we will see, right now we have a 50/50 of being right.
Rat Rage
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This is complete bullshit. How can two Nintendo "Home" Consoles, the Wii U and Switch, be part of the same generation? The Switch is the successor to the Wii U, so it can't be part of the same generation.
Use your brain. Don't blindly trust every Wikipedia article.
By that logic, you might as well say that you and your parents are the same generation... Which would be equally nonsensical.
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Lanrutcon
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I like your example, so let me use it: your parents had a kid. And then had another kid. Same generation of kids, but they had two. Sony and MS only had one kid each that generation. When tracking the scholarly achievements of each family that generation, your family brought more A's to the table since you have more kids.
Pretty basic stuff, really.
Rat Rage
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You mean the "Pro" Versions? These versions are not "kids", though. They are just revisions of the same thing. It's like your parents go to the gym a couple of month, and come back jacked, and also dye their hair green. That does not suddenly make them belong to another generation. They are still part of the same generation.
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Lanrutcon
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Yeah. Technically every one of the 3 families had multiple console releases in gen 8 (multiple kids), but Sony and MS like to lump the pro and standard versions together in terms of metrics. I think the confusion (or disparity, depending on your perspective) is that Nintendo just plays by their own rules in terms of releasing hardware. Sony and MS can be compared as they compete pretty openly, but Nintendo is the lone cowboy in the corner who's pretending to be too cool to enter the race.
Hezekiah
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Deflection - reality Ok buddy
Hezekiah
Banned
PS5 fastest ever console to 10m with the highest continuing demand - mental gymnastics or otherwise.Everything about this post is ridiculous and also nice projection with the cope
- Switch is going to pass PS5 launch alligned launch sales this month
- Switch is selling faster than any Sony console in history after 76 months
- Switch is destroying PS5 in software sales. It has an install base of close to 100 million.
Switch nowhere close to software sales of the PS4.
Switch nowhere close to the 155m sold of the console king - PS2.
The cope is strong with this one
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Supermjmt12
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I find it amazing that its selling so well and I don't know one person that owns one because of scalpers
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MagnesG
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The reality is launch date doesn't matter. What matters is comparing launch sales at least on set spectrum when it is fair to compare them, like in the exact one year.Deflection - reality Ok buddy
And there's you here comparing it based on your step stone. Nintendo always made a killing on hardware sales every year (Switch around 3-5m) on holidays and you effectively ignore that.
Though since you love so much that notion, ignoring the reality then go on. Keep deflecting.
Hezekiah
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Yes it is fair when Nintendo "wins"
.I’m just so confused by the last couple of pages of this thread. The whole premise of it is based on the fact that when the tenth month sales of both systems are added, Switch will regain its title as the fastest selling console in North America. It sold 1.5 million units in its first December. The argument that you’re presenting here - look at yearly data instead of monthly due to differing launch months - will be embraced next month by everyone who is rejecting it now.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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PS5 is the most popular and sought-after gaming device in the world and sells so well they can't meet the demand.
Deal with it.
Impotaku
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Shame the same can't be said on the games released for it.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Deflecting eh
Impotaku
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Deflecting what, it's a fact. When was the last time a next gen release came out and it sold so well that it totally sold out all it's copies?
S0ULZB0URNE
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Irrelevant
Impotaku
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Oh of course, people just buy consoles to sit there they obviously don't buy games for them as well.
lol ok.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Thread is about hardware sales.
Impotaku
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Hardware & software are linked, nobody buys a console just to have one it's because of the games.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Reading comprehension issue?
ReBurn
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Games don't sell out any more because they're faster and cheaper to produce because of optical media. There can be more than enough produced to meet demand. It's been like that for more than a decade. I personally haven't seen a game sell out since the start of the PS360 generation, but I guess it could still happen in isolated instances.
More games sell digitally than physically anyway. The demand for physical copies is at an all time low and digital can't sell out, so why would a game sell all of its copies? It has little to do with the popularity of the console.
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SpongebobSquaredance
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Hezekiah
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Miles Morales a definite flop tbf.
BattleScar
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Because they booked up a lot of AMD's wafer capacity at TSMC. Its why Ryzen and Radeon parts are so goddamn scarce.
I'm sure Sony would like to book more capacity, but they probably can't get it.
Switch being more manufacturable is why the Switch isn't (Currently) supply constrained.
Bernd Lauert
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Nobody cares.
You literally can't know that.
Half of those sales were as a standalone DVD player
Hezekiah
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Shouldn't you'd be trolling the Demon Souls or Returnal threads - get yourself another banNobody cares.
You literally can't know that.
Half of those sales were as a standalone DVD player
ethomaz
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I was doing some maths… of course there is no US projection so it is impossible to draw a better picture.
But PS5 is projected to have over 22 million units shipped at the end of FY in March 31, 2022.
22m vs 17.79m of Switch.
Next FY related Switch could not ship enough units so it reached only around 17 million or so.
In conclusion the first 3 years Switch won’t have any chance to track with PS5 sales… and the gap will be not small (way over 5 million)… after that we have to wait how PS5 will do compared with late Switch years.
But PS5 is projected to have over 22 million units shipped at the end of FY in March 31, 2022.
22m vs 17.79m of Switch.
Next FY related Switch could not ship enough units so it reached only around 17 million or so.
In conclusion the first 3 years Switch won’t have any chance to track with PS5 sales… and the gap will be not small (way over 5 million)… after that we have to wait how PS5 will do compared with late Switch years.
Woopah
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That's using worldwide shipments though. Switch is noticeably stronger in North America than it is in Europe and some emerging markets so I think it has a better chance of tracking with PS5 in the US than it does globally. I think we'll see what we saw with Switch/PS4 where the leader keeps switching depending on who has the most holidays.
It will be a repeat of the Switch/PS4 comps for the first three or four years, with the console having the most recent launch-aligned holiday season being ahead in the comps. Fiscal year comps will favor Sony until at least Year Four, with PS5 having five months of sales in their first fiscal year and Switch having only one month.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Nobody cares.
You literally can't know that.
Half of those sales were as a standalone DVD player
Link that half the number one gaming "console" in gamings history sales were for the DVD player or are you going to continue to troll Playstation?
PS2 had a software attach rate of 9.81, the highest of any PlayStation to date. So even if some people bought it as a DVD player, software sales indicate it was primarily purchased as a video game console.
Marty-McFly
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This is only assuming Sony can actually meet their targets. PS4 was never able to sell more than 20 million in a fiscal year. Switch is already millions ahead of PS5 after the first fiscal quarter of this year alone.
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Marty-McFly
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No offence but it either seems like you're trolling, or that everyone else in this discussion is sitting at the big boys table bringing something to the discussion while you flick the straw from your juice box at us continually repeating the same lines like "You can't find a PS5 anywhere! Deal with it!"
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S0ULZB0URNE
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You can't though but you can get a Switch.
It's not hard.
