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Media Create Sales: Week 32, 2011 (Aug 08 - Aug 14)

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Rolf NB

Member
Alextended said:
So, is it weird to see Wii neck and neck with PS3 so consistently? I was under the impression that just a while ago it was called out for being dead etc with PS3 reigning supreme?

But I guess it might not last? Europe is finally getting good announcements but what's left for Japan? Zelda and Dragon Quest Collection and X, is that about it and nothing else?
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Debunked: I didn't go back to check, but it may have something to do with the Wii's price drop in May. PS3 is still ahead YTD by a decent margin, and should see some modest baseline increase now, after its own price drop.

Nintendo systems always benefit a ton from holiday sales, and that could still help the Wii eek out a win for 2011 console totals.
 
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BurntPork

Banned
Yeah, 3DS software sales are lower that expected. It also seems that 3DS didn't affect DSi nearly as much as anyone thought. This is making me less confident the 3DS will keep the top spot every week until Vita releases.


Go PSP Go! That's a 20/0% incre-

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JoshuaJSlone said:
I wonder if it was a "DS family" thing.

DS + 3DS
7.8K + 196.1K
203.9K
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Why would Media Create do that, though? It makes no sense.
 
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Indyana

Member
Rolf NB said:
I didn't go back to check, but it may have something to do with the Wii's price drop in May. PS3 is still ahead YTD by a decent margin, and should see some modest baseline increase now, after its own price drop.

Nintendo systems always benefit a ton from holiday sales, and that could still help the Wii eek out a win for 2011 console totals.
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Wii didn't price drop in Japan.
 
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Alrus

Member
BurntPork said:
Yeah, 3DS software sales are lower that expected. It also seems that 3DS didn't affect DSi nearly as much as anyone thought. This is making me less confident the 3DS will keep the top spot every week until Vita releases.
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Why would that make you reach such a conclusion? I just don't understand the reasoning behind it :/
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
DaSorcerer7 said:
Go 3DS!....who reckons it'll stay above 100k next week?
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Actually, this is an interesting question.

Does anyone have a table of "First Week -> Second Week -> Third Week" price cut sales declines?
 
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BurntPork

Banned
Alrus said:
Why would that make you reach such a conclusion? I just don't understand the reasoning behind it :/
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Because I assumed that the bulk of its baseline increase would come from it stealing DSi sales.
 
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Truth101

Banned
BurntPork said:
Because I assumed that the bulk of its baseline increase would come from it stealing DSi sales.
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The problem with that line of thought is thinking that the people who are buying DSi/XL units this late in the generation would be the ones to purchase a system less than a year after launch.
 
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dallow_bg

nods at old men
Truth101 said:
The problem with that line of thought is thinking that the people who are buying DSi/XL units this late in the generation would be the ones to purchase a system less than a year after launch.
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And the problem with that is there isn't the usual cost disparity for folks who usually wait it out.
 
ULTROS!

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
What are the big releases of next week and next next week?
 
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walking fiend

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Right. Star Fox poped up from 38th place, and Nintendogs and One Piece dropped up from too low to tell. Probably more older releases will show up in the extended list.

But sure, some people got no games. We see that sometimes with launches of BC systems, and here too. Enough will just use their DS games, or mess about with AR games, Face Raiders, maybe get the Pokédex and Nintendo Video, maybe pick up Excitebike 3D.
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they bought pokemon rumble :

86 + 32 + 15 + 12 + 10 = 155K, that's not really bad.

I believe pokemon wouldn't have sold nearly this much if not released with price drop

and probably some people got lesser known games or simply DS games as well (Kirby/Pokemon, etc)
 
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ampere

Member
A decent bit of new 3DS adopters picked up Zelda, cool.

Looking forward to seeing how the numbers pan out these next few weeks post price cut
 
C

Cheesemeister

Member
Chris1964 said:
01./00. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Felyne G | ETC | (Capcom) {2011.08.10} | ¥3.990 | - 98.269 / NEW
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You know, if you're separating fields with the "|" symbol, you probably don't need the hyphen in front of unit sales unless there were more returns than purchases.
 
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Danielsan

Member
Pretty decent sales for the 3DS, interested to see where it goes from here.
360 not going down without a fight, really showed the PS2 who's the boss this week.
 
blu

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
BurntPork said:
Because I assumed that the bulk of its baseline increase would come from it stealing DSi sales.
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Stealing from the gargantuan ~4K weekly base, you mean? I don't know, man, by 2052 3DS could have gained some traction..

smh
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
Nirolak said:
Actually, this is an interesting question.

Does anyone have a table of "First Week -> Second Week -> Third Week" price cut sales declines?
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Well, we could try to compare to PS3 Slim (redesign and price cut).

PS3 Slim (Sep, 2009)

Week 1: 151.783 (NEW: Gundam Senki, 177.868)
Week 2: 55.344 (NEW: None)
Week 3: 51.055 (NEW: Vesperia, 216,593)


Nintendo 3DS (Aug, 2011)

Week 1: 196.077 (NEW: Pokémon Rumble, 86.294)
Week 2: ?
Week 3: ?
 
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Road

Member
Nirolak said:
Actually, this is an interesting question.

Does anyone have a table of "First Week -> Second Week -> Third Week" price cut sales declines?
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Almost no price cut has had this type of effect. I think those are the most relevant in recent times:


PS3 WE2008 + price cut (49,980 -> 39,980) - 2007-11-11
2007-10-08



PS3 Slim + price cut (39,980 -> 29,980) - 2009-09-03
hf



PSP-2000 + Crisis Core (no price cut?) - 2007-09-13/20
2007-08-13



PSP price cut (20,790 -> 16,800) - 2009-10-01
2009-08-31



DS family price cut - 2010-06-19
hf



Wii price cut (25,000 -> 20,000) - 2009-10-01
hf



This took me way longer than I was expecting...
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
New releases {2011.08.25}

[3DS] Me de Unou wo Kitaeru: 3D Sokudoku Jutsu | TBL | (Milestone) | ¥3.990 |

[NDS] Sokukoku no Kusabi: Hiiro no Kakera 3 DS # | ADV | (Idea Factory) | ¥5.040 |
[NDS] Sokukoku no Kusabi: Hiiro no Kakera 3 DS [Limited Edition] | ADV | (Idea Factory) | ¥7.140 |
[NDS] Suite PreCure: Melody Collection | ETC | (Bandai Namco) | ¥5.040 |
[NDS] Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (Ultimate Hits) | RPG | (Square Enix) | ¥2.940 |

[PSP] Mobile Suit Gundam: New Giren's Ambition | SLG | (Bandai Namco) | ¥6.280 |
[PSP] Dynasty Warriors 7: Special | ACT | (Koei Tecmo) | ¥6.090 |
[PSP] Black Star Rock Shooter: The Game # | RPG | (Image Epoch) | ¥6.279 |
[PSP] Black Star Rock Shooter: The Game [Premium Box] | RPG | (Image Epoch) | ¥10.479 |
[PSP] Durarara!! 3way Standoff: Alley # | ADV | (ASCII Media Works) | ¥5.040 |
[PSP] Durarara!! 3way Standoff: Alley [Limited Edition] | ADV | (ASCII Media Works) | ¥7.140 |
[PSP] Kaitou Tenshi Twin Angel: Toki to Sekai no Meikyuu # | ADV | (Alchemist) | ¥7.140 |
[PSP] Kaitou Tenshi Twin Angel: Toki to Sekai no Meikyuu [Limited Edition] | ADV | (Alchemist) | ¥10.290 |
[PSP] Crimson Empire: Circumstances to Serve a Noble # | ADV | (QuinRose) | ¥5.985 |
[PSP] Crimson Empire: Circumstances to Serve a Noble [Deluxe Edition] | ADV | (QuinRose) | ¥8.925 |
[PSP] Tanteibu: The Detective Club - Tantei to Yuurei to Kaitou to # | ADV | (Boost On) | ¥3.654 |
[PSP] Tanteibu: The Detective Club - Tantei to Yuurei to Kaitou to [Limited Edition] | ADV | (Boost On) | ¥6.090 |
[PSP] Ayaka Shibito: Genyou Ibun Roku Portable (Best Edition) | ADV | (Boost On) | ¥2.980 |
[PSP] Persona 3 Portable (PSP the Best) | RPG | (Atlus Co.) | ¥2.940 |

[PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. | ACT | (Capcom) | ¥4.800 |
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 3: Empires # | ACT | (Koei Tecmo) | ¥6.090 |
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 3: Empires [Premium Box] | ACT | (Koei Tecmo) | ¥9.240 |
[PS3] Hunted: The Demon's Forge | ACT | (Bethesda Softworks) | ¥7.980 |
[PS3] DiRT 3 | RCE | (Codemasters) | ¥7.770 |
[PS3] Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PlayStation 3 the Best) | ACT | (SCE) | ¥2.980 |
[PS3] Resistance 2 (PlayStation 3 the Best) | ACT | (SCE) | ¥2.980 |

[360] Hunted: The Demon's Forge | ACT | (Bethesda Softworks) | ¥7.980 |
[360] DiRT 3 | RCE | (Codemasters) | ¥7.770 |
 
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AranhaHunter

Banned
Rolf NB said:
Wow. Still 19800Y? I suppose this gives Nintendo another card to play in Japan this year, if they want it.
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Japan is a like that, I found out a couple of weeks back from Chris1964 that the PS2 is still 16000Y over there.
 
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BKK

Member
Solid start for 3DS hardware, if it has similar 2nd week decline to PS3 slim (-64%) it would be around 70k. I'd expect 3DS to be less frontloaded though, slightly offset by 3DS price dropping over Obon.
 
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TheNatural

My Member!
BurntPork said:
Yeah, 3DS software sales are lower that expected. It also seems that 3DS didn't affect DSi nearly as much as anyone thought. This is making me less confident the 3DS will keep the top spot every week until Vita releases.
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Uh, the price dropped on the 12th. You don't think its possible the 4 days before people could have bought original DS?

And whether or not it effects it at the start is irrelevant, its going to be gone eventually like every legacy system is.
 
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BurntPork

Banned
TheNatural said:
Uh, the price dropped on the 12th. You don't think its possible the 4 days before people could have bought original DS?

And whether or not it effects it at the start is irrelevant, its going to be gone eventually like every legacy system is.
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Actually, it dropped on the 11th in Japan.

*looks at PS2 duking it out with 360*
 
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BKK

Member
Rolf NB said:
Wow. Still 19800Y? I suppose this gives Nintendo another card to play in Japan this year, if they want it.
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At the very least they'll price the gimped model lower.
 
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Kid Ying

Member
Cygnus X-1 said:
Rhythm Heaven changed something it seems. Just a bit.
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Not only that. Releasing Inazuma Eleven, Goldeneye, family fishing and epic mickey(to a lesser extent) in a row really payed off for the wii. After weeks of seelling sub 8k, it just needed a couple of games to get up.

There's nothing for the wii this month, but next month with DQ collection and the musou sentai game, we will probably see the wii rise up again.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Nirolak said:
Actually, this is an interesting question.

Does anyone have a table of "First Week -> Second Week -> Third Week" price cut sales declines?
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Using system's first price cuts (because if we list everyone we won't end):

This was posted from Famitsu
Road said:
Price cut analysis by Famitsu:

famitsu.com/news/201108/05048010.html

Columns are:

Launch day and price | Day of first price cut and new price | Cut in % | Duration before cut | 4-week average sales before cut | 4-week average sales after cut | Sales increase in %

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Legend:
1年 = 1 year
7月 = 7 months
約 = approximately.
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Detailed (non-subscribers get combined DSi and DSi LL sales):

Code: 
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|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |   3DS    |   DSL    |   DSi    |   PSP    |  PSPGo   |   GBA    |  GBASP   |
|Wk|2011.07.11|2010.05.17|2010.05.17|2009.08.31|2010.09.27|2001.12.31|2004.08.16|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2011.09.05|2010.07.12|2010.07.12|2009.10.26|2010.11.22|2002.02.25|2004.10.11|
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| 1|    45.949|     1.743|    22.975|    22.545|       494|   286.481|    37.724|
| 2|    32.381|     2.540|    25.261|    19.837|     1.347|    88.366|    38.836|
| 3|    15.819|     1.399|    18.452|    21.924|     1.101|    56.426|    28.415|
| 4|     3.701|     1.847|    18.404|    19.581|       657|    44.037|    25.781|
| 5|   214.821|     5.105|    46.551|    55.259|     1.987|    44.118|    63.500|
| 6|          |     5.651|    63.549|    44.230|     1.660|    34.432|    49.541|
| 7|          |     4.829|    48.312|    39.382|     1.309|    39.002|    33.098|
| 8|          |     4.914|    43.717|    40.116|     1.115|    35.306|    34.122|
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Code: 
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|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |   WII    |   PS3    |   360    |   PS2    |   GCN    |   XBX    |   DCT    |   PS1    |
|Wk|2009.08.31|2007.10.08|2007.10.01|2001.03.19|2002.05.06|2002.04.22|1999.05.24|2001.08.13|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2009.10.26|2007.12.03|2007.11.26|2001.05.14|2002.07.01|2002.06.17|1999.07.19|2001.10.08|
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| 1|    18.087|     8.374|     3.137|    57.840|    10.641|     5.112|     4.743|     3.145|
| 2|    15.279|    11.745|     7.102|    52.806|     5.862|     3.326|     2.567|     2.970|
| 3|    15.443|    16.039|     4.971|    43.295|     3.502|     1.872|       676|     2.086|
| 4|    12.882|    16.130|     3.507|    21.997|     4.118|       834|       479|     1.982|
| 5|    32.190|    55.890|    16.622|    36.051|    13.229|     6.447|    45.058|     3.514|
| 6|    29.053|    52.816|     6.998|    55.346|     9.302|     5.912|    25.249|     3.377|
| 7|    26.781|    58.381|     5.685|    55.346|     6.580|     2.836|    20.741|     2.997|
| 8|    25.262|    40.840|     5.760|    40.928|     8.004|     4.359|    17.939|     2.868|
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Zenaku

Zenaku

Member
Mockingbird said:
For 2012:

Just Dance 2
Fatal Frame II Remake
Kirby Wii
Fortune Street
Go Vacation
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Fatal Frame II Remake is 2011. Hopefully it'll do better than IV and get a worldwide release in 2012.
 
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The_Darkest_Red

Member
It's amazing how different the Western and Japanese markets have become this generation. The PSP is basically in the prime of its life in Japan but is all but left for dead in NA. I understand that there are cultural differences and everything but it still just blows my mind. Just look at how many PSP games are coming out in Japan next week!
 
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Truth101

Banned
Zenaku said:
Fatal Frame II Remake is 2011. Hopefully it'll do better than IV and get a worldwide release in 2012.
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IV wasn't released in the west due to bugs that were not fixed by the developers.
 
Cygnus X-1

Cygnus X-1

Member
Nirolak said:
Actually, this is an interesting question.

Does anyone have a table of "First Week -> Second Week -> Third Week" price cut sales declines?
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Would be interesting to have some "musings" coming directly from Japan.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Truth101 said:
IV wasn't released in the west due to bugs that were not fixed by the developers.
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... due to lack of financial support by the publisher for the developers to fix the bugs :p
 
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oatmeal

Banned
06./29. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D | ACT | (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} | ¥4.800 | - 31.772 / 314.075 (+538%)

...

Nice.
 
Zenaku

Zenaku

Member
Truth101 said:
IV wasn't released in the west due to bugs that were not fixed by the developers.
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I know. I intended my comments about it doing better than IV and getting a worldwide release to be taken separately. I wasn't implying that IV's lack of worldwide release was down to sales.

IV sold the best in Japan, or so I've constantly read. With Wii already having a game in the series, a larger install base and a lacking line-up this year, I hope it can get even more sales than IV in Japan. Separately, I also hope the game doesn't suffer any problems that prevent a worldwide release for those that want it.

Either way I can read Japanese so I won't be waiting until next year to play it.
 
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