Magicpaint
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Bomba was written all over it, but a sub-10k opening would have been a bold prediction even a month ago.
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Media Create Sales: Week 34, 2013 (Aug 19 - Aug 25)
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Bomba was written all over it, but a sub-10k opening would have been a bold prediction even a month ago.
He said there wasn't 1st party support, there has been a game a month, that's all I'm saying. What are the types they need? Release a Mario Kart a month? Wario doesn't sell, but Pikmin could be a decent seller and NSLU is an expansion to Wii U's highest selling game, I see no problem with these releases. In the coming months, we'll have Mario, Zelda and DKC, 3 of their biggest IPs, I see no major problem with these choices. In fact, they're safe choices.
That's what I assumed too. It's a commercial failure that speaks more on Wii U as a platform than the game itself. Not that it won't face similar situation if it was available on other platform, just not to this extent. 5k.
Brainiac 8
Member
It didn't bomb, but it didn't do well.
It was the best selling game Platinum made, but still didn't do well for them.
Platinum is just cursed when it comes to being able to successfully sell their games.
metalslimer
Member
And why would people expect sales to jump next week? If anything vita and wiiu will go lower
pretty done
Member
Vita software, especially third party, is in a much healthier state than Wii U sw. Not just in Japan either.
It's still rather shitty though, I feel bad for Platinum.
About 33k.
Bayonetta opened over 200K so I think that's pretty much a given.
I mean it would have to open with basically twice what Pikmin 3 did to match its old performance.
I think it's a pretty straight forward audience mismatch.
Anarchy Reigns and Mad World are rather similar, and Anarchy Reigns opened 5 times higher (though we're dealing with pretty small numbers here anyway).
Secret games yo.
I don't think they can do it. Better to get out now while they can and regroup. What they have now is going nowhere, but maybe they're too proud to admit it.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
In Japan? The game definetly did good enough.
Considering the genre and similar games like DMC, the game did well enough. Hell, it sold better than DmC...
Next week's software sales will see a huge boost due to Jojo.
Given the sales, I think it would have bombed everywhere.
Such a shame - directly correlated with Nintendo's failures at CHOOSING not to market their products outside of their own bubble. As a huge Nintendo fan (and someone looking to pick this up) it's starting to get painful watching such blind arrogance portrayed by such a company.
Explain?
Explain?
Jojo's gonna ORA ORA ORA the charts.
JordanLMiller
Member
Pretty bad week all around.
That's also part of it, yes.
DragonSworne
Banned
Did Wonderful 101 actually have a negative impact on Wii U hardware sales?
metalslimer
Member
Yes, i was more talking of the vita sales being blamed on no holiday like they will get a big boost next week.
Also i hope the exclusive nintendo game directs less than a month before launch die. Nintendo directs are terrible advertising tools that dont get to the general public. And exclusive ones just split the numbers even more.
Katana_Strikes
Member
That's a given. It'll have a less installed base and a different audience to where the original was. You could even expect less than 360 Japanese numbers for it to be honest.
I don't disagree entirely with this, just with the basis that there wasn't 1st party support. There's a difference between this being Nintendo's problem which is pretty obvious and the 1st party output being the cause of the problem though.
fabricated backlash
Member
Are people really surprised? W101 will be lucky to sell 200k worldwide in its lifetime. The WiiU is toxic for new releases and W101 was going to bomb (although not this badly) regardless of platform.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Platinum is known for being great fighting game makers. What other independent fighting game studios are there? There games can sell for instance MGR and Bayo but I think they will be attractive to Sony, MS and Nintendo for making great exclusives for their respective systems.
Time to put the console on hiatus. Then again, at this rate, NCL already has...
boggles the mind, but I don't think people expected W101 to be system seller, it is up to Zelda's / Mario's/Poke's etc..
It didn't have any impact. It's a universal post-holiday drop on all platforms.
Delusibeta
Banned
At the very, very, very least, it's safe to assume Spike Chunsoft will be on board the Vita boat for the foreseeable future. Laying the smackdown vs a new Nintendo-published game will probably prompt some cheers, even if the game itself bombed on its own shipments.
Brainiac 8
Member
It sold so well, Sega cancelled the sequel, dropped Platinum, and stealth released their final game as a budget title.
darkstar0155
Member
Hopefully this convinces N that you have to actually hype and market your game if you want it to sell. The idea that they hide most of what the game has until a couple months before release is stupidity at its finest. Where are previews for DK? Where are previews for mario? Its just retarded in directs are good ways to do it, and hopefully they relize this after this game.
Hypereides
Gold Member
Those are some horrible sales for 101. But meh, Platinum are probably indifferent about it, if Nintendo fully funded the game's production and distrubtion.
Aquamarine
Member
Code:
[B]FAMITSU HARDWARE SALES, WEEK 34, 2013 (August 19th - August 25th):[/B]
3DS - 52141
PSV - 12928
PS3 - 10772
[B]WIU - 7024[/B]
PSP - 4901
WII - 1117
360 - 177Is this the new baseline now? Is Wii U going to stay at 7K?
Because that's quite a sharp post-Obon drop.
Deadpandas
Member
I didn't expect Wonderful 101 to do great, but it was a lot worse than I ever though.
This paints an ominous sign for things to come. Nintendo need to cancel all their Wii U projects and do them for 3DS before it's too late.
Swallow your pride and do the right thing or face the consequences
This paints an ominous sign for things to come. Nintendo need to cancel all their Wii U projects and do them for 3DS before it's too late.
Swallow your pride and do the right thing or face the consequences
maabus1999
Member
So why would anyone work with Platinum if they just can't ring up sales? Makes me wonder about that platinum and msft rumor. Though devils advocate says Nintendo and platniums relationship may not be good due to obvious lack of marketing so Platnium may be open to new partners...hmmm.
Horrible numbers though. Makes me wonder if it will hit 20k in the states...
Horrible numbers though. Makes me wonder if it will hit 20k in the states...
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I understand in the case of Mad World, but W101 is the most "Nintendo" game PG has done, the whole style and look definetly could pass at times from one of those wacky Nintendo IP (like Captain Rainbow). Maybe not in terms of gameplay but I think the looks suited well enough the audience.
Vita is getting Ragnarok Odyssey Ace next week, I expect a small bump (15k) at least
This I find surprising too. From 1 million Wii U's not even 1% to be aware of an upcoming game? I find that hard to believe. Even without marketing at all. You see it there when you open the eshop. I wonder how many did download the demo? It's like people bought an Wii U just for Mario and that's it. And then we wonder why is Nintendo releasing so many Mario games ...
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Went ahead and added my boy Viewtiful Joe sold through his initial shipment of sub-100k in less than a week
Kamiya pls
There isn't enough appealing first party support. That's a huge contributing factor I think. If we look at previous "failed" Nintendo consoles, they got by because no matter what, the first party stuff were so super appealing they could sell millions just off that. This time they couldn't deliver. Does that make more sense? I'm not saying that there are no first party games, but that it was done poorly and there wasn't enough of it to make up for the rest.
Zevenberge
Member
W101 deserves better than this.
rockman zx
Member
Another Platinum bomba, I don't know how this guys can keep their passion to make games. Bayonetta 2 will bomb too, wrong platform.
metalslimer
Member
That's not a sequel and the audience that wants it is likely already on Vita. If anything it will just be flat.
You inspired me.
[WII] Captain Rainbow (Nintendo) - 6.361 / 22.682 / 28,04% 28/08/08
10./00. [WIU] The Wonderful 101 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.08.24} (¥6.830) - 6.663 / NEW <20-40%>
