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[theprodigy]

It could be not Famitsu but your number is way outdated too.

GT6 received the Gold Prize in Japan for reached 500k in Dec 2014.... after that the sales were updated once:

Sep 15 2015: 590k

Are you saying they overshipped 90k more units without sell the 500k shipment???

Famitsu 376,432 is dated to Dec 2014... if you add digital you could have something over 400k for the 500k shipment... after that PD shipped (or sold digitally) more 90k. Famitsu lower seller in 2015 was 64.848... GT6 could be sold up to 60k in 2015.

I claim that massive over ship bullshit right here.

from Media Create 2015 top 1000:

348./112. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.648) - 14.296 / 363.471 (-81%) (204.784 <55,92%>)

 

[cw_sasuke]

I'll quote you alright. First off, when was the last time a Nintendo console was fierce competition for Sony? Nintendo is not interested in competing with MS or Sony.

You really think Switch wont be competition for PS4 ? Nintendo is about to change how people interact with their homeconsole games with Switch - if Switch takes off it will likely have a negative effect on a "traditional" consoles like PS4.

Also more current gen games like DQXI will be on both systems - this wasnt the case on Wii/PS3 and PS4/WiiU for most of the time.

 

[Chris1964]

I'll quote you alright. First off, when was the last time a Nintendo console was fierce competition for Sony?

Right now, with 3DS.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

You really think Switch wont be competition for PS4 ? Nintendo is about to change how people interact with their homeconsole games with Switch - if Switch takes off it will likely have a negative effect on a "traditional" consoles like PS4.

Also more current gen games like DQXI will be on both systems - this wasnt the case on Wii/PS3 and PS4/WiiU for most of the time.

I think that depends on the reason why people buying PS4 in the first place .
Is it the more hardcore gamer that care about certain things like the west .
I think we know at this point that traditional consoles in Japan will never get the casual gamer back .

 

[Ōkami]

Whoever manages the PSN must be on holiday break or something as last week rankings haven't been updated yet.

Famitsu retail+digital some updates.

Pokémon Sun / Moon now the 4th best selling game on 3DS.

01. Animal Crossing: New Leaf [All Versions]: 4.728.174
02. Pokémon X / Y: 4.557.957
03. Monster Hunter 4: 3.862.41
04. Pokémon Sun / Moon: 3.305.096
05. Yo-kai Watch 2: Bony Spirits / Fleshy Souls: 3.257.917
06. Pokémon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire: 3.190.441
07. Monster Hunter Generations: 3.091.363
08. Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi: 2.699.208
09. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate [All Versions]: 2.693.561
10. Mario Kart 7: 2.633.389

Shipment data looks something like this, all these numbers are old.

Animal Crossing: New Leaf: 5.15m
Pokémon X / Y: Around 4.57m
Monster Hunter 4: 4.1m
Pokémon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire: 3.34m
Monster Hunter Generations: 3.3m
Bony Spirits / Fleshy Souls should be floating between 3.3m and 3.4m Level 5 gave an update a few months ago but didn't include digital for whatever reason.

Sun / Moon shipments should be above 3.4m so 4th best selling 3DS game either way.

Back to Animal Crossing, between rereleases the game has sold more than 200k this fiscal year, should have no trouble selling more than a million worldwide for the whole year so we should be getting a new updated from Nintendo on April/May, either way New Leaf should outsell Wild World and become the best selling game in the series.

LTD for some other 3DS games.

Kirby: Planet Robobot: 500.156
Monster Hunter Stories: 300.606
Dragon Ball: Fusions: 202.488

Wii U games, Minecraft sells more than 400k, Splatoon and Mario Kart 8 surpass 1.6m and 1.3m respectively.

01. Splatoon: 1.606.372
02. Mario Kart 8: 1.319.051
03. New Super Mario Bros. U: 1.260.178
04. Super Mario Maker: 1.047.189
05. Wii Party U: 831.292
06. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U: 789.947
07. Super Mario 3D World: 613.693
08. Minecraft: Wii U Edition: 416.543
09. Nintendo Land: 400.704
10. Pikmin 3: 232.313

Last shipment data for Splatoon had it at 1.55m, 1.3m for Mario Kart 8, we should be getting an update for both come April/May.

Minecraft on Vita sells more than 1.2 million.

Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition: 1.226.065

 

[perfectchaos007]

Wow the 3DS actually did it, it surpassed the PS4's YTD at the last possible moment

 

[jmizzal]

Man, the Switch is going to absolutely kill in Japan. Especially if there's a Splatoon pack-in.

And Mario Maker is def coming, along with Minecraft and Pokemon lol

 

[Oregano]

I think that depends on the reason why people buying PS4 in the first place .
Is it the more hardcore gamer that care about certain things like the west .
I think we know at this point that traditional consoles in Japan will never get the casual gamer back .

The fact that most PS ecosystem games sell more on Vita might indicate that Switch could have an advantage in appealing to the average Japanese gamer.

Edit: Though that mostly matters if they share software.

 

[L~A]

Whoever manages the PSN must be on holiday break or something as last week rankings haven't been updated yet.

Maybe they work at 4Gamer? :3

Seriously, thanks for the data. Pretty good news for Animal Crossing: New Leaf. I believe it's the only multi-million selling franchises that didn't go down this gen (and was big during the previous one). All the others are down (Mario Kart, NSMB, etc.).

 

[KillerMan91]

What are you talking about, everything about NPD hardware patterns shows this gen is frontloaded versus last gen. Vita and Wii U both died much earlier, 3DS tracked far behind DS despite holding on yet, PS4+XBO are still resting on their record breaking launches to remain ahead aligned versus 360+PS3 and while it's early we presently aren't seeing any indication VR/Pro/remodels are going to manage the mid-cycle reinvigoration we saw with Kinect/remodels last gen. Even with their insane launches we might see PS4+One fall behind 360+PS3 ltd aligned next year.

We're looking at a generation that's likely going back to 5-6 years I suspect. Last gen was an anomaly.

Well I guess you could say that as a whole this gen has been frontloaded. It's mostly because of Nintendo though (and handheld market collapsing generally). The judgement is still out for PS4 and Xbox One. Also bolded is not happening. PS4 is so ridiculously ahead of PS3 (15.7 million vs 9.75 million) and X360 sold around the same in 2009 as in 2008 so if Xbox One doesn't crater it will not fall that much behind X360 yet (currently Xbone leads 14.3 million vs 12.41 million). Gap between HD gens could actually still grow if better holiday lineup next year leads to better or at least flat holiday sales.

 

[Jon Carter]

                     STATISTICS                       Famitsu   GAF_AVG     OVER     UNDER      MIN       MAX          CLOSEST BY
             [3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware              492.298   409.457      0%       100%    318.000   475.000      475.000 noobie
            [PS4] PlayStation 4 Hardware              397.607   252.841      0%       100%    190.000   300.000      300.000 Yeshua
     [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon [2nd month sales]       918.769   847.295     22%       78%     680.000  1.000.000     900.000 u_neek
               [PS4] Final Fantasy XV                 860.127   888.459     67%       33%     700.000  1.100.000    880.000 Bruno MB
      [B][3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS        743.388   274.174[/B]      0%       100%    188.000   500.000      500.000 Yeshua
                   [3DS] Miitopia                     102.810   144.606     78%       22%      60.000   250.000       102.000 DKHF
                   [PS4] Yakuza 6                     288.847   359.298     100%       0%     300.000   480.000      300.000 Yeshua
           [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki             509.667   417.977     11%       89%     270.000   550.000      485.000 noobie
             [PSV] SaGa: Scarlet Grace                 74.047    77.656     56%       44%      55.000   125.000       75.000 DKHF

Tehehehe.

 

[random25]

The big storyline of 2016 is that the 3DS, the console that the majority keeps declaring to be dead this year, ends up being the best selling hardware of 2016. Next year may not fare well for the old dog, especially if the Switch ends up being a tough competitor, but with MHXX and DQXI still up for next year, I'm still not counting out the 3DS.

 

[Orgen]

The big storyline of 2016 is that the 3DS, the console that the majority keeps declaring to be dead this year, ends up being the best selling hardware of 2016. Next year may not fare well for the old dog, especially if the Switch ends up being a tough competitor, but with MHXX and DQXI still up for next year, I'm still not counting out the 3DS.

It'll sell more than 1 million for sure. And damn, didn't know all the yokai 2 versions sold 7 million... my god!

 

[DKHF]

Prediction League December 2016 Results

Damn I severely underestimated Mario Maker and to a lesser extent underestimated most of the list. At least I was closest with 2 of them... I went from winning a section last month to coming last in a section this month :/

 

[Eolz]

Those last two pages really went full list wars ahah.

The Wii kicked MS and Sony's asses just a generation ago...

The Wii never counts because reasons...

 

[MacTag]

from Media Create 2015 top 1000:

348./112. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.648) - 14.296 / 363.471 (-81%) (204.784 <55,92%>)

I guess the real bullshit is the idea that GT6 sold 60k outside the charts. Or that any tracker claimed 500k sold ever.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Pokemon well on its way to 4 million and Final Fantasy XV is having a surprising hold, it'll probably make it to 1 million, that's cool.

Is anyone keeping a comparison for the week to week sales for Pokemon games?

 

[ZSaberLink]

151 Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu 10.301 124.946 122.791 Nippon Columbia 20/11/2014
154 Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu 12.880 124.752 123.672 Nippon Columbia 19/11/2015
155 Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu 17.940 123.611 123.195 Nippon Columbia 21/07/2016

Looks like this Sumikko Gurashi title is going to outsell the previous titles given that we haven't even counted week 52 & week 1 of the next year .

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How much do people think Yokai Watch 3: Sukiyaki could have sold this week without stock issues?

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Also P&D X is having much better legs than P&D Mario Edition... it looks like it'll eventually sell pretty close to it.... maybe it'll barely outsell it?

Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition 177.963 / 333.642
didn't even chart last holidays
vs.
Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter - 100.943 / 278.626
Sold 13.822 this week.

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Also Mario Maker sales are insane and Pokemon sales are great .

 

[ethomaz]

I guess the real bullshit is the idea that GT6 sold 60k outside the charts. Or that any tracker claimed 500k sold ever.

Yeap... and Sony shipped more 90k units to Japan just to overship lol

I mean how retail can accept more 90k units if they already have dozen of copies on shelves... makes all sense.

 

[horuhe]

How much do people think Yokai Watch 3: Sukiyaki could have sold this week without stock issues?

I do think it could have at least a -5%, most probably could have a better second week than first. They mismanaged the game allowing the stock issue.

 

[theprodigy]

Yeap... and Sony shipped more 90k units to Japan just to overship lol

I mean how retail can accept more 90k units if they already have dozen of copies on shelves... makes all sense.

You sure that gold sales award was Japan and not Asia?

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

Is the Vita a Minecraft console or why is no game getting a bump on it?

Christmas sales = kids, basically.
Minecraft is the only vita game successful among kids and younger/casual audience.
Amazing performance, it's rare for a sony console to have titles with such long legs.

 

[The Emperor]

Great XV hold...XIII fell 40% in a similar week (although that was the games 3rd week to be fair)

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

What are you talking about, everything about NPD hardware patterns shows this gen is frontloaded versus last gen. Vita and Wii U both died much earlier, 3DS tracked far behind DS despite holding on yet, PS4+XBO are still resting on their record breaking launches to remain ahead aligned versus 360+PS3 and while it's early we presently aren't seeing any indication VR/Pro/remodels are going to manage the mid-cycle reinvigoration we saw with Kinect/remodels last gen. Even with their insane launches we might see PS4+One fall behind 360+PS3 ltd aligned next year.

We're looking at a generation that's likely going back to 5-6 years I suspect. Last gen was an anomaly.

What pattern? Obviously, PS4/XB1 will have much shorter lifecycles than PS360 but the notion that this gen is frontloaded is some hilarious notion that has been going on for years, starting with the typical doomsayers at their launch.

 

[allan-bh]

You sure that gold sales award was Japan and not Asia?

It's Asia

http://gematsu.com/2014/12/playstation-awards-2014-winners-announced

 

[Ōkami]

For Famitsu the year inexplicably ended on Sunday and also started one week earlier than it should've.

Anyway, for Famitsu, these were the best selling games of 2016, we'll be getting a proper update for all of this on a month.

01. [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon - 3.246.222
02. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura - 1.397.436
03. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV - 860.127
04. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS - 743.388
05. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - 609.603
06. [3DS] Yo-Kai Sangokushi - 545.653
07. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki - 509.667
08. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot - 479.698
09. [WIU] Splatoon - 398.251
10. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 397.607

11. [PS4] Persona 5 - 353.882
12. [3DS] Monster Hunter Generations - 345.656
13. [PS4] Dark Souls III - 321.931
14. [3DS] Monster Strike - 310.167
15. [WIU] Super Mario Maker - 298.212
16. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life - 288.847
17. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders - 287.521
18. [3DS] Monster Hunter Stories - 286.500
19. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter - 270.402
20. [PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End - 266.761

21. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice - 258.757
22. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition - 241.441
23. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games - 239.648
24. [PS4] Battlefield 1 - 223.466
25. [PS4] Tales of Berseria - 209.174
26. [PSV] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End - 207.838
27. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo - 205.709
28. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions - 194.375
29. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai - 184.943
30. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad - 183.876

31. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - 180.909
32. [3DS] Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns - 180.572
33. [PS4] Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - 167.261
34. [PS4] Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - 153.040
35. [WIU] Pokken Tournament - 148.092
36. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami - 144.787
37. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash - 143.168
38. [PS4] Tom Clancy's The Division - 141.384
39. [PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 140.937
40. [PS4] Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness - 140.026

41. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final - 138.964
42. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 138.932
43. [3DS] Mario Party: Star Rush - 135.625
44. [3DS] Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!! - 132.063
45. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 128.820
46. [PS4] Overwatch - 125.792
47. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu - 123.195
48. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer - 121.280
49. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Happy Price Selection] - 115.821
50. [PS3] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End - 114.378

51. [PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 - 113.712
52. [PSV] Attack on Titan - 112.510
53. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami - 108.717
54. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 108.383
55. [PS3] Persona 5 - 107.702
56. [PS3] Dragon Quest Builders - 107.119
57. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price] - 104.922
58. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey V: The End of the Long Myth - 104.775
59. [PS3] Tales of Berseria - 104.435
60. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization - 104.124

61. [WIU] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games - 103.943
62. [3DS] Miitopia - 102.810
63. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends - 102.500
64. [PSV] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis - 101.700
65. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X - 101.239
66. [PSV] Toukiden 2 - 101.042
67. [PS4] Attack on Titan - 99.330
68. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don Don! Mystery Adventure - 97.251
69. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 94.219
70. [PS4] The Last Guardian - 93.646

71. [PS4] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization - 92.449
72. [PSV] Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star - 91.485
73. [PS4] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis - 91.264
74. [PS4] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 - 90.486
75. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven Megamix - 89.534
76. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition - 88.439
77. [PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 - 88.205
78. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2017 - 86.487
79. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 85.722
80. [PS4] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 - 85.640

81. [PS4] Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star - 85.375
82. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life 2 - 84.413
83. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 82.198
84. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbox Six: Siege - 82.194
85. [PS4] Street Fighter V - 81.854
86. [PS4] The Idolm@ster: Platinum Stars - 81.738
87. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD - 81.700
88. [PS4] Toukiden 2 - 79.735
89. [PS4] Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers - 77.718
90. [PSV] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs-Force - 76.769

91. [PSV] Digimon World: Next Order - 75.325
92. [PS4] World of Final Fantasy - 75.155
93. [PS4] FIFA 17 - 74.777
94. [PSV] World of Final Fantasy - 74.213
95. [PSV] SaGa: Scarlet Grace - 74.047
96. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Mix - 72.015
97. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo - 71.990
98. [PS4] Watch Dogs 2 - 71.760
99. [PS4] Fallout 4 - 67.396
100. [PSV] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - 65.476

For all games not on the Top 30 this week the data is outdated.

Top 100 # of games

PS4 - 36
3DS - 34
PSV - 16
WIU - 8
PS3 - 6

Games sold

3DS - 12.996.572
PS4 - 7.029.590
PSV - 3.400.505
WIU - 1.749.113
PS3 - 1.059.033
WII - 40.712
XB1 - 3.315
PSP - 2.251

Publishers

Nintendo - 4.171.455
The Pokémon Company - 3.611.517
Square Enix - 3.391.850
Level 5 - 2.636.632
Bandai Namco - 2.490.434
Capcom - 1.156.906
Koei Tecmo - 1.019.533
Atlus - 832.759
Sony Computer Entertainment - 776.368
SEGA - 742.006

 

[Shizuka]

Does that mean that the Vita sold more Dragon Quest copies than the PS4 in 2016?

 

[Nirolak]

Media Create favorite developer is apparently releasing games for home console next year: http://gematsu.com/2016/12/atlus-koei-tecmo-compile-heart-tease-unannounced-titles-2017

FuRyu – In 2017, various titles will be released for home consoles.

 

[Oregano]

Media Create favorite developer is apparently releasing games for home console next year: http://gematsu.com/2016/12/atlus-koei-tecmo-compile-heart-tease-unannounced-titles-2017

Looking to follow up their success with Lost Dimension I see.

 

[Chris1964]

You sure that gold sales award was Japan and not Asia?

Gold sales awards are for entire Asia.

 

[Nirolak]

What pattern? Obviously, PS4/XB1 will have much shorter lifecycles than PS360 but the notion that this gen is frontloaded is some hilarious notion that has been going on for years, starting with the typical doomsayers at their launch.

To see if something is frontloaded compared to last generation, you would want to split that table out by year and see if the positive change in annual totals is higher or lower than last generation.

Frontloaded doesn't mean "collapsing," it just means it sold more if its expected lifetime total up front.

 

[Kresnik258]

Media Create favorite developer is apparently releasing games for home console next year: http://gematsu.com/2016/12/atlus-koei-tecmo-compile-heart-tease-unannounced-titles-2017

Yeah. I asked Sal about that:

In these articles does "home console" mean home console in the western sense (stationary system hooked up to TV), or does it mean "not mobile" game?

Home console can be either stationary or handheld. I'll add note of that.

So y'know, don't get your hopes up, it'll be low budget handheld stuff for as long as they can milk it

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

The big storyline of 2016 is that the 3DS, the console that the majority keeps declaring to be dead this year, ends up being the best selling hardware of 2016.

Switch probably take that crown for the next five years.

 

[Nirolak]

Yeah. I asked Sal about that:





So y'know, don't get your hopes up, it'll be low budget handheld stuff for as long as they can milk it

I assumed that was true of listings of "console," but apparently we're now doing that for "home console" as well.

I still maintain that makes more sense to translate as "dedicated device."

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Love the talk of how Switch is going to be a 'good' portable hardware. For all we know, Nintendo is actually marketing it as a proper home console.

I do think they might release a full-on portable mode for it later down the line, depending on its success. But honestly the idea that people in Japan will embrace the Switch as a portable is far fetched for now.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

To see if something is frontloaded compared to last generation, you would want to split that table out by year and see if the positive change in annual totals is higher or lower than last generation.

Frontloaded doesn't mean "collapsing," it just means it sold more if its expected lifetime total up front.

Still there are a whole bunch of other factors involve in there .
Like release date for the system per region and price also play a big part of that .
Is this gen frontloaded or did last gen just take really long to get going compare to normal gens .
One thing for certain is this gen won't last as long as last gen .
Then Pro and Scorpio already change things compare to gens before them .

 

[Chris1964]

 

[cw_sasuke]

Love the talk of how Switch is going to be a 'good' portable hardware. For all we know, Nintendo is actually marketing it as a proper home console.

I do think they might release a full-on portable mode for it later down the line, depending on its success. But honestly the idea that people in Japan will embrace the Switch as a portable is far fetched for now.

It is a portable, thats a fact - no matter how successful it ends up being. New 3DS XL is a beast compared to OG Gameboys or GBA products and people wanna play on bigger and higher quality screens on the Go. New 3DS XL vs. New 3DS proved that as well.

 

[Exterminieren]

If I may be flippant... the Switch has a Pokémon RPG coming to it. It's going to be accepted as a handheld.

 

[ZSaberLink]

...

Is that last image all hardware sales from October - December in 2015 vs. 2016? Remarkably close actually.

I do think it could have at least a -5%, most probably could have a better second week than first. They mismanaged the game allowing the stock issue.

Yeh... that'd be a huge miss.... although I assume retailers decide how much to order right? And they didn't want a repeat of YW3's overstocking?

 

[Oregano]

I think people might be over-complicating it, basically:

Can you take it on the bus/train? Yes

Will it have mainline Pokémon? Yes

It's a portable.

EDIT:

If I may be flippant... the Switch has a Pokémon RPG coming to it. It's going to be accepted as a handheld.

Totally beat me to it.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

To see if something is frontloaded compared to last generation, you would want to split that table out by year and see if the positive change in annual totals is higher or lower than last generation.

Frontloaded doesn't mean "collapsing," it just means it sold more if its expected lifetime total up front.

But what is up front. We are already nearly past year 3, perhaps a midpoint if 6 year cycles are used. PS4 sales are probably at 55 million shipped, so what you place the LTD at assuming its front loaded because I think 100 million shipped is possible.

 

[cw_sasuke]

If I may be flippant... the Switch has a Pokémon RPG coming to it. It's going to be accepted as a handheld.

Pokemon Stars will be big so will Splatoon, Mario Kart, Smash and Co. if they are smart they will have Monster Hunter XX at launch as well. It really wont matter much what it is as long as it get this type of content.

I think people might be over-complicating it, basically:

Not people, just DarkLordMalik....at least for now lol.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

I agree that the switch is a handheld, that's indisputable, but nintendo is marketing it as a console.

 

[cw_sasuke]

I agree that the switch is a handheld, that's indisputable, but nintendo is marketing it as a console.

We havent seen their marketing for the JPN market yet. They unveiled the system a couple of weeks before the 3DS was about to get its biggest games of the year - 3DS is their only money maker so it makes sense that they didnt want to market it as their next handheld while trying to sell 3DS systems this Holiday season.

 

[Oregano]

I think what's more important is what they show. In the unveil video they showed people playing on the go and no one was confused because it was meant to be a home console. It surprisingly seems to be quite easy to understand.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Pivoted Okami's list based on platform as well. I'm cutting it off at titles selling over 100K

01. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV - 860.127
02. [PS4] Persona 5 - 353.882
03. [PS4] Dark Souls III - 321.931
04. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life - 288.847
05. [PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End - 266.761
06. [PS4] Battlefield 1 - 223.466
07. [PS4] Tales of Berseria - 209.174
08. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo - 205.709
09. [PS4] Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - 167.261
10. [PS4] Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - 153.040
11. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami - 144.787
12. [PS4] Tom Clancy's The Division - 141.384
13. [PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 140.937
14. [PS4] Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness - 140.026
15. [PS4] Overwatch - 125.792
16. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price] - 104.922

01. [PS3] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End - 114.378
02. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami - 108.717
03. [PS3] Persona 5 - 107.702
04. [PS3] Dragon Quest Builders - 107.119
05. [PS3] Tales of Berseria - 104.435

01. [WIU] Splatoon - 398.251
02. [WIU] Super Mario Maker - 298.212
03. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition - 241.441
04. [WIU] Pokken Tournament - 148.092
05. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash - 143.168
06. [WIU] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games - 103.943

01. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 397.607
02. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders - 287.521
03. [PSV] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End - 207.838
04. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai - 184.943
05. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 138.932
06. [PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 - 113.712
07. [PSV] Attack on Titan - 112.510
08. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization - 104.124
09. [PSV] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis - 101.700
10. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X - 101.239
11. [PSV] Toukiden 2 - 101.042

01. [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon - 3.246.222
02. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura - 1.397.436
03. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS - 743.388
04. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - 609.603
05. [3DS] Yo-Kai Sangokushi - 545.653
06. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki - 509.667
07. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot - 479.698
08. [3DS] Monster Hunter Generations - 345.656
09. [3DS] Monster Strike - 310.167
10. [3DS] Monster Hunter Stories - 286.500
11. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter - 270.402
12. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice - 258.757
13. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games - 239.648
14. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions - 194.375
15. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad - 183.876
16. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - 180.909
17. [3DS] Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns - 180.572
18. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final - 138.964
19. [3DS] Mario Party: Star Rush - 135.625
20. [3DS] Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!! - 132.063
21. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 128.820
22. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu - 123.195
23. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer - 121.280
24. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Happy Price Selection] - 115.821
25. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 108.383
26. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey V: The End of the Long Myth - 104.775
27. [3DS] Miitopia - 102.810
28. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends - 102.500

 

[DarkLordMalik]

If they want western third party support, they will push the console angle because no one wants to support a handheld in the current gaming market.

 

[Chris1964]

I think you are underestimating software sales for some games... GTS is the first PS4 GT and it will sell more than GT6 did... RE7 I expect to be a massive success in both critic, sales and wom... DQXI will sell gangbusters on PS4 (3DS too)... FFVIIR will sell more than FFXV.

You won't go far with predictions like these.

RE7 is very close, you'll see what it will sell.

 

[ZSaberLink]

If they want western third party support, they will push the console angle because no one wants to support a handheld in the current gaming market.

By that exact same logic, they'll market it as a handheld for Japan, which is totally possible.


Btw, on a totally separate note, why didn't Dragon Quest Builders pop up on the charts for Vita during the holidays? Has it not received any kind of price cut? I would assume some sort of budget version of the game would sell well to the Minecraft Vita crowd at least...