Another point that shows just how the representation of their fans on boards and social media is completely skewed compared to what people actually own, play and want. The reveals from the past couple of weeks really unveiled a lot of strange and suspect behavior as bogus.
So is the trolling
Report what every they want ? MS should then say the Xbox is the best selling console ever and made 100 billion in profits.
If you choose to focus on the trolling that's a you problem.
I was on about you ...
perspecution complex it is then.
Because power and sales are correlated? Xbox One was pretty bad, coming from Xbox 360. But Series X/S is doing pretty good coming from the Xbox One.
Absolutely disagree here, xbox one/one x was doing terrible, lost tons of marketshare from ps360 console gen, now xbox series x/s doing even worse, series s being much cheaper cant compete vs ps5 is proof of that, since its 2,5years from start of the gen, u can tell right away even casuals noticed no point to jump on a sinking ship and they keep on buying ps5 instead, 2:1 ratio worldwide and gap is increasing, nuff said ;/
Weren't you briefed? Perspecution complex is outdated. The new buzzword is shill and the fotm tactic is appeal to ridicule.
Sure, you can disagree, if you feel they are doing terribly, you can feel that. I'm just saying that I don't feel they are doing so badly. Going from Xbox 360 +80mil to Xbox One -60mil sales is bad. But currently Series S/X is already at 21 million, with supply constraints due to Covid and xCloud and not having a game lineup that is comparable to Sony.
Do you put staying silent in the same category as lying? I don't get what you are going for here.
Indeed, but from outsider's pov- if ur only argument for MS doing good is- that maybe in few years they can deliver on games, u gotta notice urself at least for current situation so mid 2023, it doesnt hold much value.
Were are not in N. Korea. I think you can't make stuff up.
What are you talking about? I never said anything about making stuff up. I said avoiding to answer questions is not the same as lying. There are legal repercussions for lying to your shareholders but not for omitting details.
That's not true because in their financials they don't have an "Xbox division." A while ago, Microsoft decided to lump their financials into just 3 divisions.
There is no such thing as "Xbox profit and loss" in their financials. They just report financials of Personal Computing, which also includes phones, Windows, Surface, etc.
So even if Xbox is losing money, the Personal Computing segment could report profits if Surface and Windows are doing really well.
I don’t care too much about sales numbers, though it can be interesting in hindsight, but if you guys are gonna throw around persecution complex at least spell it right.
Do you have metrics for this?
is hard to write when you have a big dick
Oh I see. Playing dumb in hope of the other person not bothering replying anymore.
Thread title is about sales.
And thats kinda worse really and hurts the argument. A device that supposedly collects dust keeping up with a mainstream console
Don't blame me, blame him. He and his kind love that catch phrase so much, he should actually know how to write it. I just trusted him by c&p without reading properly
No dumber than making out Microsoft can say what they want .
I'm not looking for a "W". I'm merely saying that the whole "QUEST HAS SOLD AS MANY AS XBOX SO IF VR IS NICHE THEN SO IS XBOX!!!" take is silly. They are two completely different products.Kinect was an add on. Quest 2 isn't. Xbox S/X isn't. Ps5 isn't. But yeah, if the ps5 sold a bunch of units in 8 months then stopped like kinect? Yeah, ps5 would be a failure. What you're missing is the trajectory of sales graphs. That's important and stands out for all the wrong reasons.
Kinect could have sold 135 million in the same time frame but it doesn't really matter if it dies in under a year.
And kinect and Quest 2 are very different, so I guess comparing those is silly too. You could compare add ons like psvr and kinect and get that W though.
Supporting by teasing support for VR with series X then dropping all mention of it?
www.techradar.com
Supporting by teasing support for VR with series X then dropping all mention of it?
Remember "high fidelity VR"?
"Will the Xbox ever get VR support?
Microsoft only has itself to blame for gamers hoping to have VR features coming to the consoles – after all, it was Microsoft that first suggested the idea.
Before the Series X / S console's were fully unveiled, Microsoft had stated that "high fidelity VR" would be a key selling point of the Xbox Series hardware family. As late as February 2020 Xbox boss, Phil Spencer stated that VR support for the consoles would become a "no brainer," provided that the popularity and availability of VR continued to grow."
Xbox Series X VR hopes dashed by Microsoft
Microsoft has been quick to debunk VR rumors for its consoles
Nope it's not that simple, there are more factors. Like i said before PS4 was already leading 2:1 before they had a single noteworthy exclusive game and the gen also ended 2:1 although PS4 had lot's of high rated exclusive games and even VR after that.Gotta be real here, guys MS is doing bad sales wise not coz of vr/lack of vr, its niche af and doesnt bring money.
What it needs to succed is simply high quality exclusives, thats what switch had/has and what did prove succesful for ps4/ps5 and x360.
Its simple solution to known problem- simple but not ez
So Xbox users are all financially educated and responsible, while VR users are all wild and reckless?
At least back in ps4/xbox one early gen u could tell 400$ ps4 that was more powerful vs 500$ xbox one that was like 30% weaker, and that nasty pr fiasko/stigma of drm on top, but ofc amount of exclusives mattered too later on.
Correct.
Maybe, but i just can't see that in numbers. Ratio stayed the same from 2016-2020 when all the exclusives came.
In current gen there is no Xbox One X. There is a Series X that is 100 Euros more expensive than a comparable PS5 DE and a Series S that is 100 Euro cheaper, but significantly weaker and with smaller storage than the PS5 DE. So the PS5 DE has the better price-performance ratio.
Then MS realized games dont really give a shit about VR. See: PSVR.Supporting by teasing support for VR with series X then dropping all mention of it?
Remember "high fidelity VR"?
"Will the Xbox ever get VR support?
Microsoft only has itself to blame for gamers hoping to have VR features coming to the consoles – after all, it was Microsoft that first suggested the idea.
Before the Series X / S console's were fully unveiled, Microsoft had stated that "high fidelity VR" would be a key selling point of the Xbox Series hardware family. As late as February 2020 Xbox boss, Phil Spencer stated that VR support for the consoles would become a "no brainer," provided that the popularity and availability of VR continued to grow."
Xbox Series X VR hopes dashed by Microsoft
Microsoft has been quick to debunk VR rumors for its consoles
Well it just pushes the gamers that do give a crap to PC, PS5 or standalone stuff like quest. MS could have enabled access to the Windows supported headsets on the series but chose not to.
It was either that or whataboutism...
