Fredrik
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Seems like a nothing burger subjective article, could’ve just quoted anyone here
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pasterpl
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They will for early access, exclusive modes, maps, discounted mtx etc. lot of ways to make more attractive on your system vs competitor. Gamepass limited edition etc. also as ms got some many fps already, they might change CoD to 2-3 year releases, there is always good fps on Xbox, doom, prey etc. if they want to, there is some many ways to make it sour for Sony.
feynoob
Gold Member
That is a bad article.
Any article with an opinion is 100% biased.
The moment you use "I think", you lose your argument. You need to present facts and counter arguments.
They teach you this in college.
GHG
Gold Member
As part of the process for a deal of this size regulators around the world send them a request for information along with a series of questions. The information and questions asked vary from region to region.
What do you expect them to say? "No comment"?
feynoob
Gold Member
Kids. Especially XSS.
If MS advertises that console as COD machine, it could bring those kids to the ecosystem, and those who are tight on money.
Topher
Gold Member
The source absolutely matters. In fact, your source is lying about some of Spencer's comments being lies at all.
Don't believe Phil because he lies 24/7 except when he says a price increase might happen in the future...he's not lying?
Sweet Jesus mother of Mary that post history
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Confirmation bias.
Now I'm not saying it will or won't be approved, but that's all that is.
GHG
Gold Member
Seeking alpha's "opinion" pieces have previously been found to be pump pieces on written on behalf of hedge funds and other big players. Big stock/investing YouTubers are also frequently used in the same way.
Not saying it's necessarily indicative of anything either way in this case but it's something people need to be made aware of.
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I see he is new. Based on that history, he won't last long here.Don't believe Phil because he lies 24/7 except when he says a price increase might happen in the future...he's not lying?
Sweet Jesus mother of Mary that post history
Ansphn
Member
You must be a simple person to not realize lies can be used in different ways. People lie when it benefits them. Is that concept too hard for you to understand?Don't believe Phil because he lies 24/7 except when he says a price increase might happen in the future...he's not lying?
Sweet Jesus mother of Mary that post history
Just because i said Phil was a liar does not mean everything he says is a lie. Why would he lie about raising the console pricing, Gamepass subscription, and games when it benefits him and the company he works for?
But he would lie to hurt the competition...
Ansphn
Member
like which one? Sources dont matter if they also provide sources that you yourself can research.
feynoob
Gold Member
What do people even get from behaving like that?Don't believe Phil because he lies 24/7 except when he says a price increase might happen in the future...he's not lying?
Sweet Jesus mother of Mary that post history
feynoob
Gold Member
Crap. Now we are disputing sources?
Are you saying sources don't matter? Does that mean, your sources doesn't matter too?
If so, is Phil a liar or not?
Ansphn
Member
Can you give me a list of Jim Ryan and Todd Howard's "PR" speaks?
Phil is the only one who keeps manipulating his words year after year. Even the CMA has caught on to it regarding the Bethesda purchase.
Gudji
Member
That one too.
feynoob
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feynoob
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Ansphn
Member
are you freaking serious?
Every link the dude provide i can look up
Who said he was? Hes just not on the same level as Phil.Wow, so Tod Howard is a Saint.
Thank you. Take that neogaf.
Well your opinion has been duly notedWe will have to agree to disagree.
Please see my comment to you in bold above from a page back. Not interested in your console wars. I can list all the Phil/Jim PR speak, and someone won't agree. It is what is. I have learned to accept the Phil/Jim PR. I prefer to focus on their great games.
Ansphn
Member
It crazy how you guys put Jim Ryan as the face of Snake oils salesmen but not Phil Spencer.
Where is the list of all of Jim lies?
PaintTinJr
Member
Echo cancellation can't handle the situation - where a trace of another person's headphones (that has propagation delay that defeats echo cancellation) leaks into the other person's mic creating a recursive feedback loop where the gain reaches full-scale deflection in under a second and screeches in everyone's ears
Gudji
Member
So they can hear his lies better.
Topher
Gold Member
You really can't figure that out on your own, huh?
Ansphn
Member
So basically since you dont have anything to back up your bias love for Phil and unwarranted hate for Jim Ryan, you're leaving the conversation?
List them and lets see if i disagree. I dont give a fuck about Jim Ryan, or Phil Spencer. I'm just pointing out facts. Jim Ryan has not lied as much as Phil Spencer. Not even close but to you, Jim is the face of Snake oil salesmen and Phil is just a good honest guy who uses PR...
DarkMage619
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That is some next level logic to claim someone is only lying when the news is positive but telling the truth for perceived negative news. If you don't believe Phil Spencer disbelieve him universally or you look a little silly.
Yup we'll just agree to disagree as I said earlier. It makes way more sense to look at Nintendo as a video game console maker that is competing right along side MS and Sony. To carve out some sort of Nintendo special status is silly.
Well we can agree there because I don't believe all things CADE has determined either but certainly the general conclusion with this specific acquisition.
Just providing some comfort for any and all who actually believe Sony won't be able to compete without CoD. Many of those people downplay Nintendo's success without CoD to prove something that I don't believe is true.
Mr 'We believe in generations'? The price controversy over Horizon Forbidden West and GT7 being PS5 only then not also come to mind. I'm actually more interested in see Phil's lies particularly with regard to this acquisition.
Ansphn
Member
You cant complain or defend something and then now show people what you're trying to defend.
You got caught with receipts and your response is that I'm a simple person because me and everyone else is calling you out for your fanboy bullshit.
You said he lies as much as he breathes. i.e.,he is lying all the time. This is backed up by probably one of the most blatantly disgusting post histories on this website, where you talk about Phil almost constantly regarding how bad of a person he supposedly is and how everyone is blind to not see it, along with talking about "Xbox bad, Microsoft evil" like a console warrior from Gamefaqs circa 2009.
The only time you say something different regarding Phil is that he's actually not lying when he says there might be price increases in the future (which isn't news to anybody) because he's secretly rubbing his hands at the concept of making more money. So he's always this terrible person who lies nonstop except this one time where you can say he's selfishly benefiting from making more money (which hasn't happened, lmao) so he is telling the truth. Just this time.
Your seething hatred for Xbox and Microsoft is not healthy. Seek help.
Ansphn
Member
1. We believe in generations. What was the question they asked him for that reply?
2. Horizon Forbidden West and GT7 being PS5 only. I'm going to need a link for that.
feynoob
Gold Member
As I mentioned already, everything there is a PR.
Difference is that you can smell Phil's PR words, while Todd can simply lie to your face, and you will believe him.
One is a company employee, while the other is a professional. Phil is a wanna be Todd.
feynoob
Gold Member
He can't read PR words. He is hopeless.
PaintTinJr
Member
IT runs on a measly RTX 2060, the PS5 and XsX are more powerful
Ansphn
Member
So you looked through my post history. Did you see why i hate Xbox and Phil Spencer? I already explained in detail why i have burning hatred for them. You think I'm just here hating for no damn reason? You think my anger is not warranted?
I like Jim and Phil. Unlike you, I don't have a bias for either one. If this was about Jim Ryan and his lies, I would be saying the same thing and calling it PR, not lies. Remember, not everyone is interested in your console wars. For the record, I own and have played PlayStation substantially more than Xbox. You are barking up the wrong tree.
My olive branch is extended one more time. Agree to disagree
You're not doing yourself any favors except proving everyone else right. Your "burning hatred" for Xbox and Phil Spencer (seriously? Burning hatred?) has clearly rattled some chains loose.
Seek help. At this rate 2023 might make you go to the hospital.
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DeepEnigma
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I think you need to get some of your mental faculties in order if you "hate" an inanimate object and PR/Exec's who's job is to market and sell people shit.
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Topher
Gold Member
He's got warrior sickness. And bad.
Ansphn
Member
You still have not shown me proof of Todd's lies you keep talking about. I don't give a damn about Todd Howard or Bethesda so i never heard any of his lies. You need to show me proof of his lying. Dont try to explain, give sources.
Ansphn
Member
Oh so you finally shows your true self? Just another brain washed Xbot who wants to taste Phil's kids.
Ansphn
Member
So this is how you guys treat people who has gripes with Xbox. No wonder people call the current Xbox community a cult like following.
Ansphn
Member
Bullshit LMAOI like Jim and Phil. Unlike you, I don't have a bias for either one. If this was about Jim Ryan and his lies, I would be saying the same thing and calling it PR, not lies. Remember, not everyone is interested in your console wars. For the record, I own and have played PlayStation substantially more than Xbox. You are barking up the wrong tree.
My olive branch is extended one more time. Agree to disagree
Its obvious you want love Phil Spencer. His lies are sweet melodies to you.
Ezekiel_
Banned
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Literally nobody says this. Your Twitter circle doesn't count as "people." You're the last person to talk about "cult like following" given your self admitted "seething hatred" for a plastic box, PR spokesman and faceless corporation while simultaneously feeling and showing the exact opposite for the rival box, spokesman and corporation.
Seek help.
Edit: nvm lol
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https://www.ign.com/articles/elder-scrolls-6-starfield-bethesda-todd-howard-interview
Speaking to IGN in the latest interview, Bethesda's Todd Howard said that Starfield's release date (11/11/22) is "in ink, not pencil". Such a statement certainly oozes with confidence.
https://www.ign.com/articles/starfield-redfall-delayed-2023
Starfield and Redfall Delayed to 2023 "We want to ensure that you receive the best, most polished versions of them."
Some would say that is a lie. Some would say "shit happens".
For me, I prefer a quality delay. I had no issues with HFW or God of War delays. HFW turned out great and the delay didn't impact my feelings about the game.
Lies vs. PR
Speaking to IGN in the latest interview, Bethesda's Todd Howard said that Starfield's release date (11/11/22) is "in ink, not pencil". Such a statement certainly oozes with confidence.
https://www.ign.com/articles/starfield-redfall-delayed-2023
Starfield and Redfall Delayed to 2023 "We want to ensure that you receive the best, most polished versions of them."
Some would say that is a lie. Some would say "shit happens".
For me, I prefer a quality delay. I had no issues with HFW or God of War delays. HFW turned out great and the delay didn't impact my feelings about the game.
Lies vs. PR
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