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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Thats the first offer. Who says Sony cant counter with a different one?
And if MS holds firm, too bad. It's their game. For increased PS success, it's still better to have it.
Not e very product sold at stores is profitable for companies. My company sells product lines that have been losers for 10 years. Were lucky if we breakeven one year as a lucky one. But in the grand scheme of the brand and selling the rest of the stuff for customers to buy, its still worth doing instead of cutting the cord. That just makes people go elsewhere entirely.
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What makes you think I didn't think for myself and just came to a different conclusion to you?
FrankWza
Member
I'm well aware. Still doesn't speak to Sony "not having a choice"
Where the game is released and developed for. They still develop the game.
If they didn't have a choice there would be "the show" releases everywhere. This misinformation has been spread since it went multiplatform.
93xfan
Banned
Thank you. Wasn’t going to waste my time
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think anyone has outright said officially that MLB FORCED Sony's hand, but their cagey statements kinda make it seem like that's the case.
"MLB decided to bring the franchise to more players", not Sony, in an official statement from someone at playstation.
Clearly they didn't decide that.
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FrankWza
Member
Because it does nothing to prove a point you were making and false information you're spreading.
93xfan
Banned
Source? You show me the proof.
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FrankWza
Member
The person I quoted above said that no choice =forced?
Also
adamsapple
PC releases would mean a lot more players. So would android and ios. Oh no? What's this:
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Zok310
Banned
Basically they lost because no current laws prevent this kind of merger, new laws are needed. Regulators are outdated and all the best lawyers that can pass new regulation laws are working for big tech.
Former FTC chair explains why Microsoft prevailed in Activision merger case
Former acting FTC chair William Kovacic explains why the Federal Trade Commission lost its preliminary injunction hearing in the Activision merger case.www.tweaktown.com
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I said no one has officially gone on record to say that it was a forced decision on MLB's part.
I doubt anyone from Sony or MLB will ever say that out loud.
But when you have Sony reps saying that it was MLB's decision to bring the game to more platforms, you can put 2 and 2 together. It sounds like it was a part of the license renewal agreement that Sony did a few years ago for the MLB franchise to bring it to more consoles, and now it's on Xbox and Switch.
Jboemios
Banned
Buy SegaMore IP to mismanage and kill off. Great, a true day for celebration!
I wonder how MS will feel when this acquisition does nothing to significantly increase their hardware sales
FrankWza
Member
No I was referring to 93x. That's who I quoted originally.
Xbox and Nintendo always had MLB rights. They could have released an MLB game at any time but wouldn't /didn't have the studio to
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I looked because I hadn't seen you in this thread. You're calling "people" out for something you did yourself. You came back to gloat after disappearing when it looked like the acquisition might be blocked.Not much point to be honest, no news and just the same old back and fourths, came back when we had finally got somewhere, but your insult is very good, quite inventive to be honest. Glad you felt the need to look into my post history, as I have absolutely zero interest in yours.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Microsoft goal was never to increase Xbox sales, it was to decrease PlayStation salesMore IP to mismanage and kill off. Great, a true day for celebration!
I wonder how MS will feel when this acquisition does nothing to significantly increase their hardware sales
tmlDan
Member
I didn't even reply with a differing opinion, so i can tell you're not thinking again.
Also, because you don't state reasoning/an explanation other than a blanket statement that several, now banned accounts, have done before in this thread.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
That isn't the offer to Sony, can we stop pretending it is.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It wasnt? I responded to him assuming it was.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
That is what Nvidia etc have agreed to - because that is how their services operate - they don't even have a store to sell games or microtransactions so of course they aren't getting any of that money.
Mozza
Member
Well done Columbo, your gold star is in the post, Sorry that I do not live on the thread like some, I will notify you, when I am planning another absence.
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Pipoqueiro
Member
according to court documents released to the public, it was
Kilau
Gold Member
Didn’t Phil say he didn’t want to put Minecraft dungeons on PS? I can’t remember if the Notch contract stipulations were ever confirmed.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No contract has been confirmed or leaked as part of the plethora of documents that were released in the trials.
Phil said he wanted to find a way but they didn't end up doing that, it could be purely a financial reason that they saw they wouldn't make enough revenue and changed course.
FrankWza
Member
I think the Minecraft games aren't able to be made exclusive due to contractual obligations. Wasn't that just leaked in the emails?
Kilau
Gold Member
Seems that if Phil wanted to he could have if not for something else. Maybe the contract or maybe MS reminded him they own Minecraft not Xbox and want the brand strong.
Sanepar
Member
Well they should realize this is waste money. They need to focus on buying studios and at least 1 publisher.
Or MS will buy everyone.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Oh he "still firmly believes" that now? lmao what a clown!
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Sanepar
Member
If laws don't change big techs will buy everything. They will consolidate every business. Problem is they can pay whatever they need for things stay the way they are.
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Bernardougf
Gold Member
They wont close this over CMA .. people leave in dreamland ... so they will have to postpone
GHG
Gold Member
TrueGrime
Member
More IP to mismanage and kill off. Great, a true day for celebration!
I wonder how MS will feel when this acquisition does nothing to significantly increase their hardware sales
IP's go dormant all the time, but this is just a Microsoft thing right? Lol. Oi.
Also, your second sentence is the type of takes that happen when people simply take the way Sony does things and equate them to everything else. If Microsoft wanted to increase hardware sales they could indeed do it like Sony and lock games to a single platform. I think one of their strategies is also not really being forthcoming on when platform exclusivity ends, so people have no idea what the specifics are when a game will release to PC. It's a good way to sell consoles by making it the only way to play a game for what could be several years.
Microsoft wants to sell you on the ecosystem and subscriptions. CoD (and whatever else) bundles will sell systems, but because they do PC Day 1 on all their first party titles they are betting that they can up their Gamepass subs. Even still, Microsoft is not thirsty enough to even lock their games to Gamepass and has found that a lot of players will prefer to buy on steam.
I think they have this mapped out pretty well. Singleplayer games will become exclusive to Xbox and PC, multiplayer offerings (Minecraft, CoD) will remain multiplat for those extra billions that Activision ears annually. So consoles are probably the last concern in their area of concerns.
DaGwaphics
Member
I honestly think both sides have a good idea what the other is doing most of the time. With the exception of the occasional outlier like the memory increase on PS4.
Zok310
Banned
in 20 years our grown ass kids are going to log into a website for "Mega Corporation ABCDEFG1234567" to pay for their Rent, their car note, their car insurance, their heat, their electricity, their entertainment, their medicine, their food and their tuition, all of these thing offered by 1 company.....oh and collect their paycheck.
Topher
Gold Member
Iced Arcade
Member
stop fighting and rejoice in the holy gamepass library future increase!
until they potentially jack the sub price up, then we flip the fuck out lol
until they potentially jack the sub price up, then we flip the fuck out lol
FrankWza
Member
it was mentioned in the emails that he wanted to but could not.
Took that from the thread of the year:
Ctrl+Alt+Deceive: All The Dirt, Info, Lies, and LOLs We Found During FTC vs. Microsoft
Here are all the dirt, information, lies, and LOLs we found during the FTC hearing case. Notes: That was a lot of work; I'd appreciate your support. Please keep it civil. This thread is very important because I wanted to compile all the information in one place for posterity and preservation...
Now that seems pretty accurate even though we're supposed to believe MLB FORCED Sony. Good guy Phil=Desperate Sony, that proceeded to DOUBLE sales of MLB the show but hasn't been forced to release games on PC ios and android. MLB wanted the show on the distant 3rd console that's never sniffed 100 million sales so bad, they forced them. But, they're not making them release the game on devices that are in almost every persons hand across the world.
Free games is a hell of a drug...
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Solidus_T
Member
The state of video game "journalism" reveals itself when these people try to comment on something other than just games.
At least they will have convinced a fanbase that one corporate giant owning everything is great for the average person and mobilize their fanbase on social media!
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Bernardougf
Gold Member
As if bethesda needed ps6 dev kits or any info from here forward .... ABK wont need ps6 infos either .... just a guess
RickMasters
Member
You really think Sony made the choice to make an Xbox version all by themselves? It was part of the contract renewal. Matter of fact, it’s MLB themselves who publish the Xbox version. And it was MLB themselves…. Not Sony…. Who suggested the game goes onto gamepass. This article is from back when they first announced it for Xbox. I’m curious, is it available on PS+ these days?
Sony Suggests MLB Made the Decision to Include MLB The Show 21 on Xbox Game Pass
But doesn't have any words for PS5, PS4 owners
www.pushsquare.com
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's 100% a pro Microsoft article.
FrankWza
Member
Once again. This has nothing to do with MLB "forcing" or Sony having "no choice" Sony did not have an exclusive MLB license.You really think Sony made the choice to make an Xbox version all by themselves? It was part of the contract renewal. Matter of fact, it’s MLB themselves who publish the Xbox version. And it was MLB themselves…. Not Sony…. Who suggested the game goes onto gamepass. This article is from back when they first announced it for Xbox. I’m curious, is it available on PS+ these days?
Sony Suggests MLB Made the Decision to Include MLB The Show 21 on Xbox Game Pass
But doesn't have any words for PS5, PS4 owners
The publisher here does not matter. The guy who said it was talking out of his ass and is still hiding and googling.
RickMasters
Member
I agree. Explains why they have had basically the same hardware between them for the last two generations. They had the same Jaguar chips last gen…. This gen they both got the same CPUs again. they must k ow a lil something about what each other is doing.
feynoob
Gold Member
Why play games, when you can play acquisition argument battle?
Games are for losers.
havoc00
Member
I reply on here when I empty my piss jugs from gamepass sessions
DaGwaphics
Member
You really think Sony made the choice to make an Xbox version all by themselves? It was part of the contract renewal. Matter of fact, it’s MLB themselves who publish the Xbox version. And it was MLB themselves…. Not Sony…. Who suggested the game goes onto gamepass. This article is from back when they first announced it for Xbox. I’m curious, is it available on PS+ these days?
Sony Suggests MLB Made the Decision to Include MLB The Show 21 on Xbox Game Pass
But doesn't have any words for PS5, PS4 owners
It's also naive to think that MLB isn't pushing to publish the game on PC/Switch etc. as well, that might have proven to be more difficult to get out the door. "Forced" may be a strong term here, but they may have offered Sony much better terms for the license if the release was multi-platform vs. if it was exclusive.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
If Sony firmly believes that COD will become exclusive in some form until next gen maybe is time to let it go when they are still the dominant console and access better the situation of leaving without COD revenue.... I dont think is that crazy ... but who knows what the fuck will happen
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DaGwaphics
Member
Some of that probably just comes down to them having essentially the same budgets, similar power constraints, etc. combined with the fact that they both shop for components at the same store (AMD). At any given time AMD probably has one CPU configuration they feel fits the bill at the time.
PropellerEar
Member
You have a vast experience of having alts here at GAF, but in this case you are most definitely wrong.Mostly dormant account who started lol emojis shortly after ezekiel got permanently banned.
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